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Daisy Jane

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Apparently no team in the history of the NBA that's had court home advantage in the 1st round has EVER been swept!!!

Leave it to a Toronto sports team to set that futility record :(

:laugh: we can never get a break

Nah. Just think he'll regress to his career norms.

He was unusually good the second half of last season, and to then to start this season. Thats it.

so basically - he played very well in a contract year, and the GM paid him for it?
 

Radiohead

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so basically - he played very well in a contract year, and the GM paid him for it?

His contract is very reasonable for what he brings (when he brings it).

Honestly, if you average his MVP level play in the first half and his garbage play in the second, it evens out to last season level.
 

McDeepika

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I don't expect Lowry to play like a top 5 player in the NBA like he was for the 1st 3 months of this season but if he can get back to the level he was at last year, the Raps have something to build on.

Priority #1 has to be figuring out what to do with JV. There are basically 2 options at this point. You either have to make the commitment to play him 30+ minutes in all sorts of situations to develop him, or you have to trade him while his value is high. He has a ton of potential so some team would make a big offer for him.
 

Hadoop

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Damn. Raps played their hearts out tonight, but Washington was just better.

IMO Lowry's efforts to carry this team on his back early in the season were what doomed him. He got to start in the all-star game but it came at a heavy price. Was it worth it to put his body on the line all those December/January nights? Hardly.
 

officialmark*

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We have 0 D, and don't pass on O. It's no wonder we are getting swept.
 

hockeywiz542

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According to Brian Windhorst of ESPN.com, one way or another, the Toronto Raptors were going to have a different look next season. If they don't turn around their series against the Washington Wizards, the makeover could be radical.

http://espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/201...5-nba-playoffs-win-lose-change-coming-raptors

Raptors president Masai Ujiri has been widely praised for his work since he was hired two years ago. His approval rating is very high. But it hasn't been thanks to sweeping maneuvers to the roster, which he has left mostly intact.

Although his biggest moves have been signing Casey and Kyle Lowry to contract extensions, he didn't bring either to Toronto. The most significant player move he has made was trading away Rudy Gay last season. His biggest move this season was trading for Lou Williams, who won the 2014-15 Sixth Man Award. Lowry and Williams helped the team in different ways, but for the most part Ujiri has shown restraint and patience.

Heading into the summer, there are three core players -- Amir Johnson, Tyler Hansbrough and Williams -- who are going to be free agents. Also the Chuck Hayes and Landry Fields contracts expire, leaving the Raptors holding about $18 million in cap space if they don't re-sign their own free agents. Plus, young center Jonas Valanciunas is due for an extension in the fall, and that negotiation could get complex.

If Toronto washes out of this series, it seems rather doubtful the bulk of the roster will return. Ujiri said before the series began that this series would determine how he'd evaluate the team, and so far the returns haven't been good.

This team has major defensive issues and obviously could use a veteran or two who have proven playoff toughness, something they seem to be short on. Wizards leader Paul Pierce, even in a diminished state compared with his younger years, has more moxie in one of his sore joints than the entire Raptors team has showed thus far.

If Toronto is going to break through, it has to find something out on the market. When he was the GM in Denver, Ujiri made several big trades and was not afraid to move centerpieces of his roster. It's possible he could see what he might be able to get for some of the team's leaders, such as DeMar DeRozan and perhaps even Lowry.
 

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Just win the next game, bring it back to Toronto and you never know. Imagine they win the next 2 games to cut the Wizards lead to 3-2? Imagine the Raptors being the first team ever in the NBA to come back from 0-3? Huge troll job! People will be talking about the Raptors for years.
 

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Just win the next game, bring it back to Toronto and you never know. Imagine they win the next 2 games to cut the Wizards lead to 3-2?

Yeah its not over till its over, if they win next game, than I think it gets a bit interesting
 

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IDK it still hasnt sunk in that we might actually get swept? It still feels wierd thinking about that.

Maybe we need just one win in the worst way possible?
 

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:laugh: we can never get a break



so basically - he played very well in a contract year, and the GM paid him for it?

He was better in the 1st half of this season than any point before he signed his contract. I honestly think the Raptors burnt him out. He CARRIED the Raptors when DD went out especially during a tough part of the schedule.
 

Giuseppe Sallo

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Two things: Lowry is injured. Hundo. Defence is a huge, huge problem, Wiz getting easy baskets.

We're not coming back. This team looks defeated and tired. I HATE Pierce/WIZ and I hope the Hawks spank them.

I'm looking forward to Ujiri finally remodeling this team. Bye bye Casey!
 

RayzorIsDull

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IDK it still hasnt sunk in that we might actually get swept? It still feels wierd thinking about that.

Maybe we need just one win in the worst way possible?

There was far too much talk about the Wizards being an easy opponent based off 3 regular season games. Washington had playoff success last year, John Wall played like one of the best PG's in basketball throughout the year.
 

Bluejaysfan*

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If you have to choose between keeping one of DD or Lowry, who do you choose? DD has been great the past couple months, is cheaper, great work ethic and has respect from other stars around the league but Lowry during the 1st 3 months of the season was basically a clone of Chris Paul. The only knock on Lowry is that he'll exit his prime sooner and can't really take as much on his body compared to DD. With Cousins wanting out, do you make a trade such as:

Lowry/DD
Valanciunas
Ross
2015 1st
2016 Knicks 1st

for

Cousins?

You need star power to win in this league, a good bench can only take you so far.
 

Shwaguy*

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Man, I wanna cry. It's the same thing over and over every year with all these teams. Heartbreak. I don't know how much longer I can take this.
 
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