GDT: USA Vs Austria | 12/26 @ 9:30PM ET | TSN/NHLN
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Muston Atthews
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It is very hard for someone who is 6'4 to avoid the head of someone who is 5'11 when hitting them. Austrian player gets a whole lot of chest for this to be a "head shot"
Sean Garrity
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If you can't see that the primary point of contact is shoulder to the head I don't know what to tell you. I'm likely older than you, so there's little/no chance that I have better eyesight than you.
Edit: I do agree with the bolded using NHL standards.
It actually isn't hard to not hit someone for no reason at the end of the game that's 11-0 with 1 minute left that would result in a head shot. You just don't do it.
Sean Garrity
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It being "very hard" is not the point. Once again, if you have not read posts above it's very very clear that the onus falls on the player initiating the contact.
My bad dude I forgot that guy had the responsibility to hit him in that situation no matter what.
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It was a illegal hit. No doubt. Not sure it was "dirty hit". I think it just happened. There should be a penalty / game lost.
Muston Atthews
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Don't know about that chief
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I've definitely seen players avoid it, at least in open ice, by instead just reaching out your arms and pushing them to the ground. You'll probably still get a 2 min roughing, but it's better than a game misconduct.
I don't think there was any malice involved, I think the kid thought he had an opportunity to make a play for his team that hadn't had much going for them all night. It just happened to result in an irresponsible and dangerous hit.
Sean Garrity
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Got it, you're just being an antagonist. You can literally see the team USA's player neck turned sideways because the shoulder is to the jaw...
Muston Atthews
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Unnecessary? Absoultely. Illegal in international hockey? Absolutely. I'm not arguing against either of things.
A good hockey hit? Absolutely.
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Muston Atthews
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Because he's 6'4 and the other guy is 5'11. Do you not understand that? He hits the chest and head at the same time.... Because hes way bigger
It's illegal in all hockey which makes it a bad hockey hit.
Ducks DVM
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“Possibly”. There are players who absolutely have had their careers ruined by head hits. And medical science pretty much says it shortens your life expectancy.
Muston Atthews
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You picked the worst angle at the worst time in the video.
Try this one on for size. Austrian player is crouching into the hit - shoulder/elbow tucked. Driving through the body
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If you're literally coherent enough to write the entirety of this post I can literally presume you're intelligent enough to know the answer to your own question and are just being intentionally obtuse.
There's literally a big difference between a shoulder or elbow to someone's jaw and a cookie cutter body check through the chest that barely moves the other guy. One has high chance to cause permanent brain damage which can manifest itself in the future, the other hardly get noticed by the receiving player who goes on playing his shift like normal, only momentarily inconvenienced. CTE isn't caused by ordinary shaking of the brain that could be easily replicated to the degree of a clean and standard hockey check with something everyday like tripping and falling. All the research points to significant trauma to the head being the biggest link to CTE in athletes.
That's why hits to the head are now against the rules and punishable with suspension. By the letter of the book, they are not good hockey hits.
And I'm sick of this "guy is too tall hitting a short guy. It can't be avoided." yes it f***ing can. I played and by the time I was 16 I was already 6'1 and a few inches taller than everyone I played against. Not to say I was all that good but I hit people and never once made contact with anyone's head. It's not that f***ing hard to bend your knees and direct your shoulder or elbow 3-5 inches lower than you usually would unless your intent is to try to destroy someone's shoulder which leaves open the possibility of hitting someone's head, which, in being aware of that potential as a tall player, attempting to do that in the heat of the moment constitutes a blatant disregard for your opponent's safety, or put more simply, complete recklessness.
Not having your head up is literally not a free pass to get your head rocked. Period. Not with what we know about brain trauma. The entertainment factor for fans who love watching that shit happen is literally not more important than the safety of the players.
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He has knees, which can bend, which means...he didn’t have to hit his head, he chose to. Chara, despite being a giant, somehow manages to not headshot every other player in the league with every hit he throws. Your argument fails the belief test.
Muston Atthews
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Muston Atthews
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Bent knees. Chara is too slow to catch people in open ice these days
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Lol the state of Chara's skating ability this close to retirement has literally no relevance to his point whatsoever. Sick strawman.
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Muston Atthews
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He literally hit him in the chest and the head at the same time. CTE is absolutely caused by the brain rattling in the brain which is why body checking causes significantly more concussions than fighting does. Literally.
Yeah, I was bigger than everyone else too and often hit people straight in the chest. He literally bent his knees. He got a lot of head too. Because he's the bigger man.
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