Management UPDATE: Steve Staios GM and POHO, Dave Poulin Senior VP of Hockey Operations

[JD1]

I like Poulin. Seems quite intelligent when I listen to his radio hits

This board is funny. Nepotism. TSN hire.

We needed to strengthen hockey ops from top to bottom. That was repeated over and over.

Gone are DJ and Dorion.

In are Staois, Poulin, Martin, Alfie. Any way you slice it, there's a lot more real NHL experience spending their days trying to figure out how to make this team better.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

Petty Pierre fired or kept his thumb on everyone that could provide quality input

The amount of backhanded shots Martin, andlauer and Staios have sent to the old regime is so amazing.

 

[JD1]

Yes

Unless you think Jake Sanderson is not Top Pair quality? Let me demonstrate all the rest for you


Thomas Chabot : 17th PPG among D-men since 2018-19, when he was 21 y/o. 2nd highest TOI (after Doughty) since. Advanced stats have shown that he is elite in transition, possession exits and off/def playdriving as well as many categories. I remember a few years ago he was noted as the player with the puck on his stick the most. Now it must be Quinn Hughes owning this stat. Chabot has always been ranked in Top-30 D-men lists

Jakob Chychrun : let's not forget he is just 25 y/o. Since he was 22 y/o in 2020-21, tied for 3rd best GPG among D-men, 19th best PPG too. And even before coming to this mess, he was seen as almost as good defensively as offensively.

https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fjakob-chychrun-stat-card-courtesy-of-andy-rono-v0-hz0vccy1o8la1.png%3Fs%3D212284e00dee1bb47ef762cd57211c4be02fc754

Tim Stutzle : how many players have scored 90+ pts in their u21 season in the last ~30 years? IIRC McDavid, Ovechkin, Crosby and Stamkos... He's struggling this season but still over PPG and the 18th best PPG in the NHL since 2022-23.

Claude Giroux : shouldn't need a lot of presentations... the guy is over 1000 games and 1000 points in the NHL. 107 pts in 113 games in Ottawa. Extremely solid track record as a top notch 2-way player. Leadership, faceoff ability, versatility, brings a lot to the table

Brady Tkachuk : turned 24 y/o in training camp, scored 35 goals and 83 pts in his 23 y/o season, 30 goals and 67 pts in his 22 y/o season... on pace for 42 goals this season. Unicorn power forward, captain, whatever, just his scoring and shot/chance production shows he is a first liner...

Drake Batherson : it was a hard season for Drake last year with his Dell injury still affecting him, plus playing with a rookie center (who had missed a full season himself) and a guy not really interested to be there but he still put 62 pts... 0.85 PPG since 2021-22 (his 23 y/o season), only 69 NHL forwards have maintained a better PPG since, so easily in the Top-96

Josh Norris : he went through a very hard long term injury but despite that, since his 22 y/o season in 2021-22, he has maintained the 17th best GPG in the NHL. He had elite defensive metrics in his 21 y/o rookie season, facing top competition every night on a rebuilding team so we know what he is capable of in that regard.

Of course there'd be more arguments but that should be well enough.

Ok so which facts do you disagree with?

13-18. That's a fact too. You'd think with that much talent we'd be better

 

[Burrowsaurus]

I like Poulin. Seems quite intelligent when I listen to his radio hits

This board is funny. Nepotism. TSN hire.

We needed to strengthen hockey ops from top to bottom. That was repeated over and over.

Gone are DJ and Dorion.

In are Staois, Poulin, Martin, Alfie. Any way you slice it, there's a lot more real NHL experience spending their days trying to figure out how to make this team better.

Better than DJ and Dorion might honestly be the lowest bar in modern day sports history.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

The amount of backhanded shots Martin, andlauer and Staios have sent to the old regime is so amazing.

Not so backhanded... Telling it like it is while being nice about it

 

[BankStreetParade]

Its pretty funny how several people here seem to pine for the Melnyk, Dorion, DJ Sens and are so reluctant to accept change offering up emo opinions on the decisions which have had so little time to evaluate.

What a fantastic strawman you've constructed. If you don't mind, could you specifically quote the posts from "several" people who are "pining for the Melnyk, Dorion, DJ Sens"?

I mean I have been telling y'all for years that Dorion was terrible without impunity;. We know Melnyk was horrible or have we forgotten; DJ was / is an assistant coach that can be a friend of the players.. he had know idea how to teach the kids 2 way hockey or play without the puck.

Good thing we fixed that mistake by *checks notes* making the new GM's boss himself.

Lol the usual negative nancies upto the usual woe is me anthems.

Great work here by Andlauer. He's really putting in pieces that will put this team on a consistent path of success.

You know, when some of us heard a new owner was taking over and he was going to bring "best in class" practices to an organization that had operated like a third tier Turkish handball team for the last decade, that maybe, juuuuuuust maybe, that meant people with qualified NHL experience would be tasked with important senior roles.

So far, they've appointed a guy with almost no executive experience at the NHL level to be the POHO. He's now also become the GM, another role he has literally no experience in at the NHL level. And the SVPHO is a guy with a modicum of NHL experience, from 10 years ago, whose tenure can only be considered a failure in the simplest of terms.

Sorry, are we supposed to be jumping for joy?

The point of making changes to reflect "best in class" is you appoint the best people for the job. Are these really the best people we could have hired for POHO, SVPHO and GM? And can you explain why?

 

[Golden_Jet]

Better than DJ and Dorion might honestly be the lowest bar in modern day sports history.

Its not even the worst in Sens history?
Sparky and Bridgeman say hi.

 

[h2]

Better than DJ and Dorion might honestly be the lowest bar in modern day sports history.

I don't disagree with that statement at all!

The old regime was an absolute joke. Complete pieces of shit.

 

[swiftwin]

I like Poulin. Seems quite intelligent when I listen to his radio hits

This board is funny. Nepotism. TSN hire.

We needed to strengthen hockey ops from top to bottom. That was repeated over and over.

Gone are DJ and Dorion.

In are Staois, Poulin, Martin, Alfie. Any way you slice it, there's a lot more real NHL experience spending their days trying to figure out how to make this team better.

Pierre McGuire also seemed quite intelligent during his regular radio segments.

Again, I'm not saying Poulin is a bad hire. I'm sticking to a wait and see approach.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

What a fantastic strawman you've constructed. If you don't mind, could you specifically quote the posts from "several" people who are "pining for the Melnyk, Dorion, DJ Sens"?

Good thing we fixed that mistake by *checks notes* making the new GM's boss himself.

You know, when some of us heard a new owner was taking over and he was going to bring "best in class" practices to an organization that had operated like a third tier Turkish handball team for the last decade, that maybe, juuuuuuust maybe, that meant people with qualified NHL experience would be tasked with important senior roles.

So far, they've appointed a guy with almost no executive experience at the NHL level to be the POHO. He's now also become the GM, another role he has literally no experience in at the NHL level. And the SVPHO is a guy with a modicum of NHL experience, from 10 years ago, whose tenure can only be considered a failure in the simplest of terms.

Sorry, are we supposed to be jumping for joy?

The point of making changes to reflect "best in class" is you appoint the best people for the job. Are these really the best people we could have hired for POHO, SVPHO and GM? And can you explain why?

no interest in talking to you still lol

 

[Do Make Say Think]

We need experience winning. Not just experience. I have experience playing soccer. Don’t ask me to win the World Cup

The point is that there isn't much time and cap crunch is on now, since Chabot is back.

This is what happens with poorly run organizations: once things start to get shaky, you don't have much time to stabilize.

My only point is that that hiring makes sense: it is someone with a lot of experience at various levels (playing, coaching and exec) and is available now.

I don't know if it ends up being a good hire, nobody does. I am not saying I think this is great, I'm saying it is a sensible approach.

Also is a stark contrast with how things used to be ran under previous ownership.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Pierre McGuire also seemed quite intelligent during his regular radio segments.

Again, I'm not saying Poulin is a bad hire. I'm sticking to a wait and see approach.

What did Pierre McGuire do wrong here? He was under Pierre Dorion who reportedly openly called him "The Rat" to others under him.
There was no collaboration. He was a threat to Dorion and Dorion fired him as soon as he could.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

lol people are like “oh you wanted change now you got change and you’re not happy?!?” Like…. Yeah I want change but I want ideal change lol. Not tiny little changes in front office with unproven people. That’s the reality of the situation.

it’s sports. Wins good losses bad. So if they win I’ll be happy with the hires

 

[justavisitor]

Don't really know the ppl from the management front so pretty neutral in this move.

The only thing I can think of is that, perhaps now the players can't think, "well, coach you won't be staying for long when the new gm comes"

All of a sudden, now we have a new coaching team hired by the official gm. We weren't going to make any coaching change anymore anyway for the rest of this year (right??), but now the gm is here to stay too. And this official gm backs the coach he hires 100%

So the players better do what the coach says.

If gm can take off the interim tag, who is to say the coach can't??

 

[L'Aveuglette]

Willing to give Staios a chance but his short time as interim hasn't started out too well with how slow he was to fire DJ when he easily could have done it before the season went off the rails entirely.

As for Poulin, I really like him a lot but does he have any relevant experience at this position?

Oh, and Bowness as associate GM is great. No problem at all with that promotion.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Better than DJ and Dorion might honestly be the lowest bar in modern day sports history.

Do you think they clear the bar? I am going to assume so. Please shout it out from the roof tops if you' d rather have DJ and Dorion.

If I can assume you do. The only question then is by how much. On a scale of 100% to 1000% I would put them at at least 500% out of the gate with the potential to go higher ... To me its so much better having a three headed monster of Staios, Poulin and Bowness ; collaborating on decisions than having Dorion as the sole decision maker. We can safely expect the Hockey ops will also continue to grow with adds of quality people. They have already added an analytics element. They will add to their scouting staff. If they add quality people and can expand on the information to make better decisions they can't help but improve the outcome.

 

[SensHulk]

The amount of backhanded shots Martin, andlauer and Staios have sent to the old regime is so amazing.

Best parts of the presser

What did Pierre McGuire do wrong here? He was under Pierre Dorion who reportedly openly called him "The Rat" to others under him.
There was no collaboration. He was a threat to Dorion and Dorion fired him as soon as he could.

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Pierre Dorion was a toxic piece of shit cut from the same cloth as Melnyk. Glad neither of them is with the org anymore

 

[L'Aveuglette]

Best parts of the presser

Not that I want Martin to move on, but I can't wait for what he'll say once he's not obligated to be polite about the previous coach.

 

[h2]

Willing to give Staios a chance but his short time as interim hasn't started out too well with how slow he was to fire DJ when he easily could have done it before the season went off the rails entirely.

As for Poulin, I really like him a lot but does he have any relevant experience at this position?

Oh, and Bowness as associate GM is great. No problem at all with that promotion.

He basically had the same position with The Maple Leafs from 2009-2014 as Burke's right hand.

 

[Pierre from Orleans]

Pierre Dorion was a toxic piece of shit cut from the same cloth as Melnyk

At least shit has a purpose...

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

He basically had the same position with The Maple Leafs from 2009-2014 as Burke's right hand.

Burke also had Nonis there and Loiselle ... not so sure of the right hand thing.

 

[SensHulk]

Not that I want Martin to move on, but I can't wait for what he'll say once he's not obligated to be polite about the previous coach.

What’s interesting to me is I’m not so sure Martin won’t be back as head coach next season. If Staois trusts him, and kind of reading between the lines on comment about Ryan bowness being there already, I could see them wanting JM back (provided JM wants to continue) versus trying to find the same thing from the outside.

Could be wrong though….but what’s clear is now the onus is on the players. If you want the core to stay intact, put up or shut up (especially Brady)

 

[h2]

Burke also had Nonis there and Loiselle ... not so sure of the right hand thing.

Looking it up, Poulin was the VP of hockey ops, and Nonis was the Senior VP of hockey ops.

I missed that, so yeah, not quite the right hand. I think Nonis is an idiot though so I'll take Poulin over him lol

 

[Tnuoc Alucard]

 

[Do Make Say Think]

Another item worth considering is that we won't be cap screwed next year.

Considering this roster needs a lot of work and the window of opportunity we will have with the dead money coming off the books, it was important to set the executive group ASAP. Without that, there is little hope that there will be a plan set according to vision of where this roster needs to go.

Now long-term decisions and moves can be more effectively made.