Management UPDATE: Steve Staios GM and POHO, Dave Poulin Senior VP of Hockey Operations

[Golden_Jet]

And your point is? So you agree with me now that moves will be made. Yikes.
I don't understand your post at all.....as in what were you getting at....?
What I was saying is don't stand pat ...make some moves and hopefully they will.
That's what they get paid to do.

I think my point is very clear, you want deals made yesterday basically, I’m saying there is zero need to rush anything, this year.
TDL for picks, then any future moves in the summer.

 

[Alf Silfversson]

Exhibit 1,250,447:

Are the bad people in the room with you now?

So instead of your lame ass sniping how about you explain how firing a coach (who was losing) after TWENTY-SIX games shows a lack of accountability. You know as you claimed.

You can't because it is one of the following:

A) Beyond an idiotic concept

B) Intellectually dishonest

C) Framed through the lens of bitterness about the object of your staunch defense for years being fired swiftly and rightfully

D) All of the above.

 

[Golden_Jet]

Some of you guys might actually be f***ing deranged or something. Like, all this tribalism and talking about allegiances to the "old guard"...give your heads a f***ing shake. There's pretty much no one here who gives 2 shits about Melnyk, Dorion or DJ. One guy is dead and the other 2 have been dismissed. You're so f***ing obsessed with these guys it's verging on a mental condition. Go get some fresh air or touch grass or something. You need to shake this mental block you have cause it's honestly absurd to still be reading about this shit almost 2 years after the f***ing guy died.

I don’t see anyone on this page lauding those 3, looks like you’re not reading the room correctly. Who are you referring to in your rant?

 

[Wondercarrot]

Some of you guys might actually be f***ing deranged or something. Like, all this tribalism and talking about allegiances to the "old guard"...give your heads a f***ing shake. There's pretty much no one here who gives 2 shits about Melnyk, Dorion or DJ. One guy is dead and the other 2 have been dismissed. You're so f***ing obsessed with these guys it's verging on a mental condition. Go get some fresh air or touch grass or something. You need to shake this mental block you have cause it's honestly absurd to still be reading about this shit almost 2 years after the f***ing guy died.

Have you considered just taking a break?

 

[Alf Silfversson]

Have you considered just taking a break?

Are you f***ing deranged? You've got a serious mental problem. Why don't you take a f***ing break?!?! Have a goddam kit kat or a Snickers or something. Your dementia is getting the better of you. You must be f***ing crazy.

I'm fine, really.

 

[Golden_Jet]

Are you f***ing deranged? You've got a serious mental problem. Why don't you take a f***ing break?!?! Have a goddam kit kat or a Snickers or something. Your dementia is getting the better of you. You must be f***ing crazy.

I'm fine, really.

Poster wasn’t referring to you, that’s why they quoted a different poster. Your post is confusing tbh.

 

[Alf Silfversson]

Poster wasn’t referring to you, that’s why they quoted a different poster. Your post is confusing tbh.

 

[Wondercarrot]

He’s was doing his post in character!

 

[JD1]

He don’t see the fan that we want Roy. But I blame more Staois and Poulin that don’t have the balls to hired Patrick. They were scared.

Patrick Roy has a reputation in NHL circles. Unfortunately for Patrick, it's not good. He even addressed it in the past few days saying he no longer feels he can be both the GM and the coach. Great. But the only GM willing to give him a job is 81. We didn't need that sideshow here

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

It's become increasingly obvious that Dorion and DJ were not at all good in their roles. By extension the defenders of those two (for years mind you) think they'll somehow be less wrong if the new people in those role(s) end up looking just as bad.

They're trying to will problems out of the ether in a misguided attempt to smear a group with half a season under their belt (with no offseason to implement their changes mind you). They think this will somehow make Dorion and/or DJ not look as bad.

It's bizarre, and yes even more ironic than 10000 spoons when all you need is a knife.

All I know is I f***in love this team. Everyone else can say whatever the hell they want and be miserable, but I'm giving the new regime plenty of time to figure this out and making this a fun hobby again. I have loved this team religiously since I was a kid and I want that back. Melnyk took that out of me for a while and it was hard to bear, but I sure as shit am not gonna come guns blazing at the new guys as if living in that angry or hopeless mentality is where I want to be as a Senators fan.

It's time to hoo rah these mofo's to death. Go JM, Go Alfie, Go Stu, Go Brady, Go Poulin, Go every damn person in that organization as far as I'm concerned.

 

[Flamingo]

Patrick Roy has a reputation in NHL circles. Unfortunately for Patrick, it's not good. He even addressed it in the past few days saying he no longer feels he can be both the GM and the coach. Great. But the only GM willing to give him a job is 81. We didn't need that sideshow here

Seriously. Seeing him starting the first practice shouting everyone through a drill made me think of Brady and Tim getting a visit from Matt Foley.

 

[Tuna99]

Playoff teams will want to bolster their line ups for a playoff run and add depth to their lineups. We are going to make some moves by or at the trade deadline. So there will be some moves made at the trade deadline and some moves will be made in the off season.

Good news for Ottawa is ALL our players
Value has risen because they all are playing well and look good now.

Staois will get more because Jacques Martin has them humming along

 

[Alf Silfversson]

All I know is I f***in love this team. Everyone else can say whatever the hell they want and be miserable, but I'm giving the new regime plenty of time to figure this out and making this a fun hobby again. I have loved this team religiously since I was a kid and I want that back. Melnyk took that out of me for a while and it was hard to bear, but I sure as shit am not gonna come guns blazing at the new guys as if living in that angry or hopeless mentality is where I want to be as a Senators fan.

It's time to hoo rah these mofo's to death. Go JM, Go Alfie, Go Stu, Go Brady, Go Poulin, Go every damn person in that organization as far as I'm concerned.

I agree. That doesn't mean I'll agree with every move but I'm going give these guys lots of opportunity to do right by the franchise I cheer my heart out for. Just like I did with the previous group.

If this group starts to develop a rap sheet of terrible moves, horrible results and moral bankruptcy then I will turn on them. Just like I did the previous regime over time. But for now? LFG! Things are turning around for this team and I'm here for it.

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

I agree. That doesn't mean I'll agree with every move but I'm going give these guys lots of opportunity to do right by the franchise I cheer my heart out for. Just like I did with the previous group.

If this group starts to develop a rap sheet of terrible moves, horrible results and moral bankruptcy then I will turn on them. Just like I did the previous regime over time. But for now? LFG! Things are turning around for this team and I'm here for it.

100%. I'm beyond excited and I've watched more games this year already than any of the last 5 or 6 years. I feel like I can actually believe in what they say and wanna do again. There was a time that was there with the previous group too.

This whole idea of trying to relate them and current criticism, or lack thereof, to the previous regime and their performance just feels like politics to me. Tear the other guy down to prop up the other, since they couldn't stand on their own merit. Basically, just try to muddy the waters enough nobody feels straight with it anymore.

 

[BankStreetParade]

So instead of your lame ass sniping how about you explain how firing a coach (who was losing) after TWENTY-SIX games shows a lack of accountability. You know as you claimed.

You can't because it is one of the following:

A) Beyond an idiotic concept

B) Intellectually dishonest

C) Framed through the lens of bitterness about the object of your staunch defense for years being fired swiftly and rightfully

D) All of the above.

For real, what the f*** are you talking about? It's honestly baffling how you criticize someone for saying that the coach should have been fired 10 games in because the season was slipping away.

What exactly is the way to have an opinion here? Cause it seems some people can't have any opinion regardless of what it is they say.

Last season, I said give him a shot with a healthy roster but on a short leash. Criticized.
This season, I said fire him after 10 games because the team was underperforming and the team needed a new voice and a mental reset. Criticized.
The longer we waited the more frustrated I grew. Criticized.
If I say the GM acted too late and stood around doing nothing while an entire season went down the drain, I get criticized.

You guys talk about some posters, like me, always being combative. See it from my perspective once in a while, if you want to understand why I respond the way I do. Cause it seems no matter which side of an issue I take, it's always the same cast of idiots who say I have some angle. I can't be on any side of any issue. Does that seem like the kind of position where that person would continue responding in kind all the time?

 

[Micklebot]

Patrick Roy has a reputation in NHL circles. Unfortunately for Patrick, it's not good. He even addressed it in the past few days saying he no longer feels he can be both the GM and the coach. Great. But the only GM willing to give him a job is 81. We didn't need that sideshow here

Idk if you can say that when Andlauer all but confirmed they had talks with him and he was on their list of candidates for this summer.

 

[Golden_Jet]

For real, what the f*** are you talking about? It's honestly baffling how you criticize someone for saying that the coach should have been fired 10 games in because the season was slipping away.

What exactly is the way to have an opinion here? Cause it seems some people can't have any opinion regardless of what it is they say.

Last season, I said give him a shot with a healthy roster but on a short leash. Criticized.
This season, I said fire him after 10 games because the team was underperforming and the team needed a new voice and a mental reset. Criticized.
The longer we waited the more frustrated I grew. Criticized.
If I say the GM acted too late and stood around doing nothing while an entire season went down the drain, I get criticized.

You guys talk about some posters, like me, always being combative. See it from my perspective once in a while, if you want to understand why I respond the way I do. Cause it seems no matter which side of an issue I take, it's always the same cast of idiots who say I have some angle. I can't be on any side of any issue. Does that seem like the kind of position where that person would continue responding in kind all the time?

Main problem is, you can’t have a debate with anyone without, are you guys f*****g deranged……

Try having a conversation without getting triggered in your response , would go a long way imo.

 

[Senovision]

MICHAEL ANDLAUER, OWNER OF THE OTTAWA SENATORS, EXPRESSES SLIGHT REGRET OVER NOT HIRING PATRICK ROY AS HEAD COACH.​

In a public admission of misgivings, Michael Andlauer, owner of the Ottawa Senators, expressed on Wednesday that he has some regrets concerning the missed opportunity to hire Patrick Roy as the team’s head coach. “Patrick would have been a great addition to our team,” he confessed.

These comments were made during a Wednesday morning interview on 104.7 Outaouais, several days post the announcement of Roy’s appointment as the head coach for New York Islanders.

Andlauer, who only recently assumed ownership of the Senators, cited ‘timing’ as the principal obstacle to hiring Roy at a time when the Ontario team has seen numerous alterations since the summer.

“I have a great deal of respect for him,” Andlauer shared. “In the world of hockey, he is an exceptional figure. His DNA is that of a true champion. Something our current team struggles to comprehend; the art of winning. They will learn, though.”

“On a personal level, it is a decision that I mildly regret,” he conceded. “It ultimately came down to timing. Our team is already inundated with change. The leadership was still settling in. […] My objective this year was to observe and learn. I never anticipated making so many changes this quickly.”

“Recently, we’ve made a significant change by bringing in Jacques Martin. It has brought more structure and organization to the team,” he elaborated. “The team was lacking good organization. They’re young and the timing wasn’t right. I would’ve liked to have revisited this at the end of the year. I personally wish Patrick was part of our team, both on and off the ice, but particularly on it. He’s a true competitor.”

 

[JD1]

Idk if you can say that when Andlauer all but confirmed they had talks with him and he was on their list of candidates for this summer.

Is he working here? No. How many teams you think he might have spoken to since he left Colorado? None willing to give him a job.

He's a controversial figure. I'm glad the sideshow didn't make a stop here. And I say that as a former huge Habs fan

 

[Golden_Jet]

MICHAEL ANDLAUER, OWNER OF THE OTTAWA SENATORS, EXPRESSES SLIGHT REGRET OVER NOT HIRING PATRICK ROY AS HEAD COACH.​

In a public admission of misgivings, Michael Andlauer, owner of the Ottawa Senators, expressed on Wednesday that he has some regrets concerning the missed opportunity to hire Patrick Roy as the team’s head coach. “Patrick would have been a great addition to our team,” he confessed.

These comments were made during a Wednesday morning interview on 104.7 Outaouais, several days post the announcement of Roy’s appointment as the head coach for New York Islanders.

Andlauer, who only recently assumed ownership of the Senators, cited ‘timing’ as the principal obstacle to hiring Roy at a time when the Ontario team has seen numerous alterations since the summer.

“I have a great deal of respect for him,” Andlauer shared. “In the world of hockey, he is an exceptional figure. His DNA is that of a true champion. Something our current team struggles to comprehend; the art of winning. They will learn, though.”

“On a personal level, it is a decision that I mildly regret,” he conceded. “It ultimately came down to timing. Our team is already inundated with change. The leadership was still settling in. […] My objective this year was to observe and learn. I never anticipated making so many changes this quickly.”

“Recently, we’ve made a significant change by bringing in Jacques Martin. It has brought more structure and organization to the team,” he elaborated. “The team was lacking good organization. They’re young and the timing wasn’t right. I would’ve liked to have revisited this at the end of the year. I personally wish Patrick was part of our team, both on and off the ice, but particularly on it. He’s a true competitor.”

Didn’t need font of 120, to make your point, bold would have sufficed.

 

[BankStreetParade]

Main problem is, you can’t have a debate with anyone without, are you guys f*****g deranged……

Try having a conversation without getting triggered in your response , would go a long way imo.

Ah, it's a 1-way street. Got it. Any amount of name-calling, insulting, labelling, etc. can be given in one direction but say something back and you're "triggered" and incapable of "having a conversation". Civility would go a long way...so long as it's a specific group of people who have to abide by it. Thanks for the heads up.

 

[Alf Silfversson]

For real, what the f*** are you talking about? It's honestly baffling how you criticize someone for saying that the coach should have been fired 10 games in because the season was slipping away.

What exactly is the way to have an opinion here? Cause it seems some people can't have any opinion regardless of what it is they say.

Last season, I said give him a shot with a healthy roster but on a short leash. Criticized.
This season, I said fire him after 10 games because the team was underperforming and the team needed a new voice and a mental reset. Criticized.
The longer we waited the more frustrated I grew. Criticized.
If I say the GM acted too late and stood around doing nothing while an entire season went down the drain, I get criticized.

You guys talk about some posters, like me, always being combative. See it from my perspective once in a while, if you want to understand why I respond the way I do. Cause it seems no matter which side of an issue I take, it's always the same cast of idiots who say I have some angle. I can't be on any side of any issue. Does that seem like the kind of position where that person would continue responding in kind all the time?

So you think that an (at the time) interim GM waiting less than 20 games into his tenure to fire a coach is waiting too long. Gotcha. I personally think the coach should have been gone two years ago. A year and two months ago at the absolute latest. So I get the frustration.

Where it goes off the rails is making a false equivalency regarding accountability in that scenario to accountability under the previous management group. A group that oversaw failed season after failed season. Scandal after scandal. It was a shitshow. Equating (or even close to it) a 5 year debacle where the results were objectively bad to 4 months where there has been very little chance to make true change (in season) is crazy. Especially since the new group has done more to address needs in that 4 months than the previous guys did in 5 years.

The fact that you personally, who preached patience and support for that group through 5 years of failure, are calling out the new management group for not acting fast enough after less than 30 games is what people might find unpalatable and dishonest.

Plus people tend to not really side with people who go on unhinged rants accusing others of having mental health issues.

You have a great weekend!

 

[Micklebot]

Is he working here? No. How many teams you think he might have spoken to since he left Colorado? None willing to give him a job.

He's a controversial figure. I'm glad the sideshow didn't make a stop here. And I say that as a former huge Habs fan

Idk JD1, you're logic here seems pretty dubious. He got a job from the NYI, that's a fact, he said at the start of this year he interviewed with a few teams for front office positions, they aren't interviewing him because they are unwilling to hire him due to his reputation, they did it because he was a legitimate candidate. Our own owner confirmed we spoke and he was a potential candidate but we weren't making any decisions until the summer.

His reputation is certainly a consideration, the way he left Colorado certainly put a bad taste in a lot of teams minds. But he's clearly been getting traction as of late, with interviews in Mtl, apparent talks with us and now a job with NYI. Seems at least some teams moved on.

 

[JD1]

Idk JD1, you're logic here seems pretty dubious. He got a job from the NYI, that's a fact, he said at the start of this year he interviewed with a few teams for front office positions, they aren't interviewing him because they are unwilling to hire him due to his reputation, they did it because he was a legitimate candidate. Our own owner confirmed we spoke and he was a potential candidate but we weren't making any decisions until the summer.

His reputation is certainly a consideration, the way he left Colorado certainly put a bad taste in a lot of teams minds. But he's clearly been getting traction as of late, with interviews in Mtl, apparent talks with us and now a job with NYI. Seems at least some teams moved on.

Perhaps some teams did move on. But the only team that did hire him has an 81 year old GM who likely doesn't give a f*** if Patrick tries down the line to run a little interference down the road

Why he wasn't getting hired isn't something I care too much about. I'm just happy that when he did get hired, it wasn't here

 

[Alf Silfversson]

Perhaps some teams did move on. But the only team that did hire him has an 81 year old GM who likely doesn't give a f*** if Patrick tries down the line to run a little interference down the road

Why he wasn't getting hired isn't something I care too much about. I'm just happy that when he did get hired, it wasn't here

I agree. To me he seems like a guy who might motivate players for a year or two but never really implemented true, positive change. We need that change with our young group. I wouldn't have been completely pissed off with a Roy hiring but he's far from my first choice.