Up-and-coming prospects from non-traditional hockey countries

[Jack DiBiase]

Pretty good polish player in germans junior league
http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=215917

Is he really any good? If the stats are correct, there's also a German 14-year-old, who had 30 goals in 9 games in the same league.

http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=266985

EDIT: Or maybe that Valenti kid is just really freaking amazing. I have no clue about this league.

 

[McGlassbangers]

Szilard Rokaly, Romania (2016 Draft) - http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=246810

 

[Hockeyklubban]

This is going to be intresting a new development camp

http://www.iihf.com/iihf-home/sport/camps/

 

[Nicko999]

There is a couple of Bulgarian players I am following:

Probably not a prospect anymore but he is the only Bulgarian playing in North America at the moment. Who knows, maybe ECHL would be realistic?
http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=67742

Played MHL B last season:
http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=42936

Veselin Dikov
http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=211215

Tomislav Georgiev
http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=211232

Daniel Dilkov
http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=211278

 

[Bojovnik]

Apart from the current crop of British prospects (in particular Duggan, Antonov and Rutkis), here are some younger guys. None have any real NHL potential, but you would presume they would become names for the British national team in the future

2001 born: http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=233990
Had a tip from GB starting goalie Ben Bowns about this guy: http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=218178 1999 born but I'd like to see him off of OHA, so he gets more shots against. Size a factor too.
Matthew Maurice (99): http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=221829
Liam Kirk (00): http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=230605
Louis Chabot (01): Now playing junior in Canada: http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=275719
Edward Bradley (01): http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=267551

 

[ozo]

There is a couple of Bulgarian players I am following:

Probably not a prospect anymore but he is the only Bulgarian playing in North America at the moment. Who knows, maybe ECHL would be realistic?
http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=67742

Played MHL B last season:
http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=42936

Veselin Dikov
http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=211215

Tomislav Georgiev
http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=211232

Daniel Dilkov
http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=211278

This kid also is a Bulgarian passport holder - http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=262640

 

[3 Minute Minor]

This is going to be intresting a new development camp

http://www.iihf.com/iihf-home/sport/camps/

Not new, they do it every 2 years. Last group was '98 borns

http://www.iihf.com/channels1213/hdc/statistics/

http://www.eliteprospects.com/league.php?leagueid=IIHF Dev. Camp&season=2012

 

[Hockeyklubban]

Tomas Mastaler a Moldavian player in the GTHL league

http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=350974

 

[Hockeyklubban]

Not new, they do it every 2 years. Last group was '98 borns

http://www.iihf.com/channels1213/hdc/statistics/

http://www.eliteprospects.com/league.php?leagueid=IIHF Dev. Camp&season=2012

I know its not a new camp.
I have write about the last camp before.
But they haven't play 2015 camp for male players born 2000 and that's make it new.

 

[S E P H]

Is he really any good? If the stats are correct, there's also a German 14-year-old, who had 30 goals in 9 games in the same league.

http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=266985

EDIT: Or maybe that Valenti kid is just really freaking amazing. I have no clue about this league.

Doing some calculations...

Valenti posted 43 points in 9 games in the Schüler-BL as a 14 year old.
Draisaitl posted 103 points in 26 games in the same Schüler-BL at the same age.

Draisaitl had a 3.9 PPG average.
Valenti had a 4.78 PPG average.

Valenti also played in the higher DNL league a year before Draisaitl was in it, Leon played his 15th birth year back in the Schüler-BL which is where he posted up 192 points. And Valenti was over PPG player as a 14 year old in the better DNL league. Additionally to this, Valenti plays on a way less talent team than what Draisaitl was on, though against weaker competition as well.

So it is shaping up that Valenti could be the next German star (statistically he is already better than LD). Though even with his point totals being better than Draisaitl, I don't know if he could be better than Draisaitl. This is because Leon has NHL size and uses it very effectively with the puck, something you cannot teach to players. Valenti is 5'7" (170.1 cm) currently and is only 14 years old, he will grow more, but I don't expect him to reach over 6'0"+ (182.8 cm+). Though each growth spurt is unique to the genetic history of player, Valenti could easily stay at the same height or go to 6'3" (190.5 cm) in a year, anything is possible...

Apart from the current crop of British prospects (in particular Duggan, Antonov and Rutkis), here are some younger guys. None have any real NHL potential, but you would presume they would become names for the British national team in the future

2001 born: http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=233990
Had a tip from GB starting goalie Ben Bowns about this guy: http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=218178 1999 born but I'd like to see him off of OHA, so he gets more shots against. Size a factor too.
Matthew Maurice (99): http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=221829
Liam Kirk (00): http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=230605
Louis Chabot (01): Now playing junior in Canada: http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=275719
Edward Bradley (01): http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=267551

I am not saying that Kieran Brown will become the next Patrick Kane, but to say he has zero NHL potential is sort of ridiculous. It might be true and he regresses towards the future seasons, but at this current point of time, I think he could be a draft-able player.

 

[Maverick41]

A general info regarding the German "Schüler BL":

It is very difficult to compare numbers in this league since it is divided in 2 conferences (North and South) and each conference is divided in two groups (A and B).
However while the groups in the South are somewhat similar as far as the level of competition is concerned, the North is doing things different. All the best teams in the North play in Group A and the weaker teams play in Group B.
After the best team in Group B gets promoted to Group A replacing the worst team there.
In the South they add another phase to the regular season. The best teams from both groups A and B qualify for the next round and the teams that fail to qualify also play another round robin tournament amongst themselves.
When this is done the best teams from the South join the best teams from Group A North for the Championship Round.

Therefore there are more often kids with incredible numbers in the B Group of the North Conference, because they play multiple games against really bad teams, that often boost their numbers. There are regularly results like 15-1 or 18-0 etc.

Valenti's numbers are still impressive but it's really difficult to compare him to players like Draisaitl, who played against tougher competition.

 

[wej20]

Valenti's dad is listed at 6'2 so I think there is hope that Valenti junior reaches at least 6'0. Wish I had a tall dad .

 

[Bojovnik]

I am not saying that Kieran Brown will become the next Patrick Kane, but to say he has zero NHL potential is sort of ridiculous. It might be true and he regresses towards the future seasons, but at this current point of time, I think he could be a draft-able player.

Fair enough. I'm interested to see what he does now he's no longer being (at least directly) coached by his father, who has taken another job in the Bradford hockey set up.

Obviously, he needs to go abroad if he wants any chance of being drafted.

 

[ozo]

This EP profile don't do justice for him yet, but Otar Sakkhokiya is by far the best scorer of his age in one of the best Russian junior leagues. He has a very Georgian name, but born in Tartu, Estonia. In all likelihood, unfortunately, he will pick up Russian passport along the way and never suit up for Estonia. I say that because there were multiple triple underagers on Estonia U18 roster this year and Otar obviously is far superiour to them, but wasn't suiting up for them. Still as of now, he is perfect for this thread.

 

[Bojovnik]

I am not saying that Kieran Brown will become the next Patrick Kane, but to say he has zero NHL potential is sort of ridiculous. It might be true and he regresses towards the future seasons, but at this current point of time, I think he could be a draft-able player.

Just to add to this as I was going through this year's GB Under-12 statistics, Alex Graham ('03 born) ended up scoring a ridiculous 155+26 in 15 league games this season (for Bradford), who won all 16 games in their league season. He also played up for Bradford in the U14 League, scoring 47+23 in 17 games.

By comparison, Brown in his final U12 season was 124+6.

 

[ozo]

Tomas Mastaler a Moldavian player in the GTHL league

http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=350974

He's not a complete unicorn. There's a really good Moldovan player in the ranks of Vityaz Podolsk - Dmitri Karaseny. He is a former member of a Donbass Donetsk academy, but well the political situation is what is down there right now and he has moved to Russia and plays a year up his age. If I had to guess, he could represent Ukraine down the road, as Moldova isn't icing a national team in foreseeable future.

 

[Jonas1235]

http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=212580

16 year old englishman with good stats. Eligible for 2016 draft.

 

[Hockeyklubban]

Andong Song a 1997 born player from China who Islanders drafted
http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=291003

 

[phillipsj89]

That is a nice find, but his best case is to either jump to the Sweden, Germany, or Finland junior division and hope he puts up solid numbers to warrant an CHL import selection.

Been picked up by Prince George. Excited to see how things go with him.

 

[TheStranger]

Andong Song a 1997 born player from China who Islanders drafted
http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=291003

And he'll not likely ever see so much as the AHL.

 

[kaiser matias]

Some players from non-traditional countries have been invited to NHL prospect camps, according to the IIHF:


International NHL camps

the New York Islanders who have players from China, France, Italy and Japan on their rosters

Andong Song (China)
Joachim Ramoser (Italy)
Yuri Terao (Japan)
Charles Bertrand (France)

Also three players from the next host nation of the Winter Olympics travelled to North America. Jin Hui Ahn and Wonjun Kim will practise with the Detroit Red Wings before joining the Dallas Stars’ camp while goaltender Kye Hoon Park will join the Dallas Stars’ camp after having practised with the Grand Rapids Griffins. The trio played in Korea and was on the Korean national team that earned promotion to the Division I Group A two-and-a-half months ago.

Korean national team coach Jim Paek, who was coaching at the Red Wings’ AHL affiliate Grand Rapids Griffins before leaving for Korea, helped connecting the players with NHL teams.

 

[GFF]

Just to add to this as I was going through this year's GB Under-12 statistics, Alex Graham ('03 born) ended up scoring a ridiculous 155+26 in 15 league games this season (for Bradford), who won all 16 games in their league season. He also played up for Bradford in the U14 League, scoring 47+23 in 17 games.

By comparison, Brown in his final U12 season was 124+6.

Not quite true. Brown had 141+23 in his final season of U12, and had 53+27 at U14 that year but didn't have a star to play alongside that Graham had in Brown.

Graham is probably also benefitting from the Brown 'pull', lots of good young players joining Bradfords set up. Both seem comparable though at the same ages, will be interesting to see Brown at U16 & U18 this year...

 

[3 Minute Minor]

Not quite true. Brown had 141+23 in his final season of U12, and had 53+27 at U14 that year but didn't have a star to play alongside that Graham had in Brown.

Graham is probably also benefitting from the Brown 'pull', lots of good young players joining Bradfords set up. Both seem comparable though at the same ages, will be interesting to see Brown at U16 & U18 this year...

u16 doesn't exist anymore. He'll play U13/U15 which will be all the same kids he crushed in U12/u14 last year

 

[GFF]

u16 doesn't exist anymore. He'll play U13/U15 which will be all the same kids he crushed in U12/u14 last year

For Brown it'll be U15/18 then and Graham will play U13/15

 

[Bojovnik]

Well we won't be seeing Brown in the British U16 next year, as he's joined the Iowa Wild AAA program, playing in the ECEL.