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Lunatik said:
So you think it's fair a men's rumble leads to a wrestlemania title shot and a women's would leaf to a summer slam? why not just have wwe put up a sign telling everyone the women don't matter as much

I get the men are a bigger draw, but they need to keep things as even as possible.
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I don't think it's disrespectful to the women at all Summerslam is a huge show it's not like I'm suggesting the match take place at battleground or backlash.

I simply don't like 2 rumbles on one night and I'm also not a big fan of splitting shows into 2 nights.

So one Rumble leads to Wrestlemania, the other leads to Summerslam.

And since the Men's Rumble was around for 30 years before we got a women's rumble they keep the Royal Rumble show.

I'm not suggesting take women off Wrestlemania I'm just suggesting 2 rumbles in 1 night is to much.
 
TNA going to a six-sided ring was one of the stupidest decisions in wrestling history, killed any momentum the company had and set them back by a decade.
 
BigBadBruins7708 said:
JBL deserves way more credit for his heel run than he gets. In the middle or the Ruthless Aggression Era instead of pushing the boundaries to get heat the man went out and just did a straight forward classic territory style heel and drew insane levels of heat
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If you're talking about that phase where he was the longest reigning World Champ in SmackDown history then yes. It was very surreal to me. Compared to his APA days, it was a complete 180 character wise. Couldn't even believe it was the same guy.
 
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Sensrule said:
If you're talking about that phase where he was the longest reigning World Champ in SmackDown history then yes. It was very surreal to me. Compared to his APA days, it was a complete 180 character wise. Couldn't even believe it was the same guy.
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Yup, the early 00s title run. It's crazy he made a simple "I'm successful and you're all failures and beneath me" draw so much heat. Especially in the time of the internet and smarks
 
Feuding Wrestlers costing each other titles makes no sense.

I recently watched WWF in your house Beware of Dog and that show ended with Undertaker VS Gold Dust in a casket match for the intercontinental championship.

That match ends with Mankind costing the Undertaker the match and allowing Gold Dust to retain the intercontinental title.

And I thought about it, and that makes no sense.

What would make more sense would have been for Mankind to help Taker win the intercontinental championship.

That way would have ensured a title shot for himself at say Summerslam.

CM Punk did the same thing when he was Feuding with Drew, Punk said as long as he was breathing Drew would never be champion, Why? if Drew was Champion Puck VS Drew would have been for the Championship, why was Punk not trying to ensure Drew won the Championship?

A perfect example of this would be March 17th 1997 Main Event Physco Sid VS Bret Hart for WWF Championship inside a steel cage.

During the match BOTH Undertaker AND Austin come out to help their Wrestlemania opponent win the WWF Championship so that their match at Wrestlemania is for the WWF championship.

And that makes sense because why WOULDN'T Austin and Taker want their Match at Wrestlemania to be for the WWF Championship? of course they do.

So when I see Mankind costing the Undertaker the intercontinental championship, or CM Punk going out of his way to cost Drew the World Heavyweight Championship on multiple occasions it makes no sense.
 
I'm not saying they should have done this, I'm just saying surprised WWE didn't do this especially when Vince was in charge.

I'm surprised Owen is not in the WWE Hall of fame.

And I know the response will "Well his wife wouldn't allow it."

Here is the thing She can get as mad as she wants she can't actually do anything about it.

If they wanted to do it they could there is NOTHING she could do to stop them.

And knowing that is the case.

And knowing that Vince McMahon does not give a single f*** about People's feelings all I need to do to prove that is point to the interview with Brian Pillman's wife the night after Bad Blood, that is the 2nd worst segment in RAW History.

I'm surprised Vince didn't do it just because he could, Owen wasn't kept out of the Hall of fame because of compassion for Owen widow, I assure you he did not now care about Martha Hart.
 
Here is one for you.

If Kenny Omega was truly as good as everybody says he is he would be in WWE now, or would have at least had a run.

Calling Kenny Omega the best wrestler in the world is like calling yourself the best football player in the world but you spend your whole career in the CFL.

WWE is the NFL, NBA, NHL, MLB.

It is the big stage It's where all the top wrestlers eventually perform.
 
LEAFANFORLIFE23 said:
Feuding Wrestlers costing each other titles makes no sense.

I recently watched WWF in your house Beware of Dog and that show ended with Undertaker VS Gold Dust in a casket match for the intercontinental championship.

That match ends with Mankind costing the Undertaker the match and allowing Gold Dust to retain the intercontinental title.

And I thought about it, and that makes no sense.

What would make more sense would have been for Mankind to help Taker win the intercontinental championship.

That way would have ensured a title shot for himself at say Summerslam.

CM Punk did the same thing when he was Feuding with Drew, Punk said as long as he was breathing Drew would never be champion, Why? if Drew was Champion Puck VS Drew would have been for the Championship, why was Punk not trying to ensure Drew won the Championship?

A perfect example of this would be March 17th 1997 Main Event Physco Sid VS Bret Hart for WWF Championship inside a steel cage.

During the match BOTH Undertaker AND Austin come out to help their Wrestlemania opponent win the WWF Championship so that their match at Wrestlemania is for the WWF championship.

And that makes sense because why WOULDN'T Austin and Taker want their Match at Wrestlemania to be for the WWF Championship? of course they do.

So when I see Mankind costing the Undertaker the intercontinental championship, or CM Punk going out of his way to cost Drew the World Heavyweight Championship on multiple occasions it makes no sense.
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There's a bunch of things that don't make sense if you really think about it. Like, if you want a shot at a title, just attack the champ and you'll get a match at the next PPV or show or whatever. Or the whole, you can't lose the belt if you're DQ'ed.

Just shut the reality out and enjoy the show.
 
AtlantaWhaler said:
There's a bunch of things that don't make sense if you really think about it. Like, if you want a shot at a title, just attack the champ and you'll get a match at the next PPV or show or whatever. Or the whole, you can't lose the belt if you're DQ'ed.

Just shut the reality out and enjoy the show.
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At least then you can say the champ wants revenge for being attacked.
 
BigBadBruins7708 said:
JBL deserves way more credit for his heel run than he gets. In the middle or the Ruthless Aggression Era instead of pushing the boundaries to get heat the man went out and just did a straight forward classic territory style heel and drew insane levels of heat
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He played himself. He really was that much of a douchebag. It wasn’t a work so much as a reality show.
 
AtlantaWhaler said:
That’s the point. Attack the champ, get a title shot. It’s that easy
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Hell sometimes all you have to do is interrupt him when talking. "I WANNA CHALLENGE FOR YOU FOR THE WORLD TITLE." If they're a heel then the authority figure will go "DOES MEMPHIS OR WHATEVER CITY WANT TO SEE THIS MATCH?" Crowd goes "YAAAAS" and then they go "IT'S OFFICIAL"

And babyfaces never deny title challenges ever so that makes it easier.
 
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I was a big Bret Hart fan as a kid. But now when he does interviews/podcasts, he acts like he didn't work for Vince McMahon's WWF in the mid 1980s through mid 1990s, and instead wrestled in some sort of high work-rate/in-ring storytelling utopia.
 
BruinDust said:
I was a big Bret Hart fan as a kid. But now when he does interviews/podcasts, he acts like he didn't work for Vince McMahon's WWF in the mid 1980s through mid 1990s, and instead wrestled in some sort of high work-rate/in-ring storytelling utopia.
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That's because that's how HE wrestled, I know that because I'm rewatching it now.

Bret and Shawn are MILES ahead of everybody in the WWF in terms of in ring work and have been for years.

They were the ONLY reason to watch 1995
 
If WCW had signed Bret Hart in 1996 after his contract was up WCW would have won the war and WWE wouldn't be alive today.

The reason I say that is because Bret made Austin, and Austin is the reason WWE won the war.

Without Bret there is no survivor Series 96.

No Wrestlemania 13 match which was THE match that made Austin.

And if there is no Bret feud, then there is no Austin VS Vince Feud and if there is no Austin VS Vince feud WWE dies.

Also if Austin never comes back from his broken neck at Summerslam 97 WWE dies.

And for anyone that says Bret didn'tbuild Austin because Austin won King of the ring 1996.

He sure did and no did not.

Do you know what he was doing at Summerslam 96?

You see him for about half a second during the Undertaker VS Mankind match.

That's it, that's his big tole.

Bret built Austin.

That King of the ring 1996 win had very little to do with it.
 
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