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Blitzkrug said:
I'm not sure Bret was ever "cool" with Vince outside of the most superficial/business sensible way possible. This was long before this clip surfaced too.

If memory serves, the only reason Bret started to acknowledge WWE again in 2005 was because they threatened to do him dirty like they did with the Ultimate Warrior and release a hit piece type documentary and basically smear him. Hart, having the ego he has decided that wasn't going to fly so he came back to protect his legacy by doing the HOF induction in 2006 and signing a legends contract so he could start popping up in merch again.

So for once, this is probably how Bret always felt.
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Vince called Bret in the hospital after Bret's stroke and they met up a few times after that patching things up.

In the end Bret was just too loyal to Vince, who even after before Survivor Series had fulfilled his contract he didn't even need to show up.

If Bret really wanted to not play ball he could have just said "Shawn says he won't be safe with me I'll do the match for a million dollars" and Vince would have been screwed
 
Scandale du Jour said:
Is it that hard? It is a pretty good grift. Look at Ted Dibiase or to the countless ridiculous preachers asking for donations.

Not saying HBK is not sincere, just that he would not be the first to use religion as a con.
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HBK doesn’t need to Russell Brand this. Not sure about Hogan tho.
 
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AEW has easily the 2nd best promo/storyline work I've seen for a wrestling show behind main roster WWE (a few years too young to remember WCW), it's not that it's amazing in that department but other wrestling shows struggle in this. Like even the black and gold NXT everyone remembers the amazing Gargano and Ciampa but do you really care about what Gargano and Andrade or Roode and Nakamura were feuding about on the TV episodes, most times it was pretty dry and just biding time until the main selling point PPV matches. I think their story effort is not that bad and the stuff in the ring is a bigger anchor on AEW ratings than the internet believes.
 
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MVP of West Hollywd said:
I think their story effort is not that bad and the stuff in the ring is a bigger anchor on AEW ratings than the internet believes.
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AEW really needs to outlaw people jumping over the top rope so the guy outside can catch them. It's an awesome move when you see it like once every 3-4 months, it sort of loses any impact and the magic is gone when it happens on every fricken match during a TV show.

Tony needs to learn what the law of diminishing returns means

All I know as somebody who watched wrestling during the peak periods of the 80s and 90s, while the 90s was more entertaining week to week, the 80s were more rememberable because while the weekly television left a lot of be desired, when big moments happened they stood out, for the most part most things from the 90s and beyond were a blur when it happened and what exactly was the driving force behind it. The weekly squash matches on Superstars also kept the wrestlers strong because all you would see weekly was guys winning, so the odd chance you got to see star vs star matches, they had more meaning.

I find having your top guys vs your tops guys on every week just makes a roster full of guys I would perceive to be lower mid carders
 
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The best version of Sting by far is surfer Sting. Best matches easily, best promo and character work. Crow Sting (various versions) is just the version of Sting that was around when WCW was at its peak popularity.
 
JackSlater said:
The best version of Sting by far is surfer Sting. Best matches easily, best promo and character work. Crow Sting (various versions) is just the version of Sting that was around when WCW was at its peak popularity.
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I feel like this is the only opinion of any wrestling fan who was between 8-15 years old during Surfer Sting. I certainly feel that surfer Sting is FAR superior to any other version.
 
Bench Clearer said:
WCW was highly entertaining in 1999, especially when Vince Russo booked for them.
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Yep, that's an unpopular opinion, alright.

I liked little bits and pieces of WCW in 1999, but hated almost everything else and absolutely loathe anything WWF did that year to this day except the odd match or two. I didn't watch at all during that time because mid-1998 turned me off from wrestling entirely, but I caught up a few years later and never felt like I missed anything. I did watch Havoc 99 at a buddies house though, and it's probably the show from that year I enjoy most from either promotion.
 
Bench Clearer said:
WCW was highly entertaining in 1999, especially when Vince Russo booked for them.
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I also felt Russo started out strong. Oct/Nov/Dec of that year had some entertaining moments. It was an upgrade on the previous 9 months.

But then he goes back to the nWo angle. And I love the nWo but that iteration was awful. Just having Bret Hart involved made it seem forced and phony (Bret should of been one of his top babyfaces and no one believed he'd partner up with Kliq members Hall and Nash). Never cared for Jarrett first or last. I would of been fine with just Hall/Nash/Steiner using the faction but not being the main focal point of the show as it suddenly was.

Then Bret and Jarrett get injured, Russo loses full booking control, refuses to be part of a booking committee and that was all she wrote for his first go-around as the creative behind WCW. Those 3 months leading up to Starrcade are underrated.
 
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I think the Radicalz jumping ship was the final nail in the coffin, but the ship was probably already sinking at that point. For everything that went to shit post-Finger Poker of Doom, there was still some good on the show in 99.

I still watched/followed (though not as much as I did in 97/98) until the day it died, but I didn't realize until I became an adult how bad the last year or two were. Like originally I just remember wrestlers I like and some funny moments/gimmicks from then fondly, but looking back and then learning the backstage mess, yeesh.

I wish there was an alternate timeline were Bischoff was allowed to get the buyer and start over. Might wind up the same as long as you had the egos running things, but you never know.
 
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Big Poppa Puck said:
I think the Radicalz jumping ship was the final nail in the coffin, but the ship was probably already sinking at that point. For everything that went to shit post-Finger Poker of Doom, there was still some good on the show in 99.

I still watched/followed (though not as much as I did in 97/98) until the day it died, but I didn't realize until I became an adult how bad the last year or two were. Like originally I just remember wrestlers I like and some funny moments/gimmicks from then fondly, but looking back and then learning the backstage mess, yeesh.

I wish there was an alternate timeline were Bischoff was allowed to get the buyer and start over. Might wind up the same as long as you had the egos running things, but you never know.
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I always felt one of their biggest blunders was the "reset" of stripping every current champion and starting the Millionaire's Club vs. New Blood storyline. That is where I stopped following the WCW product.

If they wanted to do veterans vs. young guys, they should of grouped up some 3/4/5 true heel veterans to be the antagonists and made the young guys the protagonists trying to rise up against the veterans supposedly holding them down.

Then they cast Bischoff AND Russo both on the side of the New Blood, portraying Jarrett as a young guy being held back, Goldberg as a heel, FUNB Hogan. The whole thing was bizarre.
 
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Having women's tag, IC and US titles are not bad things however I don't think they are needed.

Last time I counted the titles in WWE I got to 18 and I'm pretty sure I missed a couple.

I don't there is a need for 18 championships.

I think that's to many.

Also I think 2 royal rumbles in 1 night is to much.

If it were me the men would keep the Royal Rumble PPV.

The women would have their Royal Rumble in July and the winner of that would get a title match at Summerslam.
 
The Marquis said:
Yep, that's an unpopular opinion, alright.

I liked little bits and pieces of WCW in 1999, but hated almost everything else and absolutely loathe anything WWF did that year to this day except the odd match or two. I didn't watch at all during that time because mid-1998 turned me off from wrestling entirely, but I caught up a few years later and never felt like I missed anything. I did watch Havoc 99 at a buddies house though, and it's probably the show from that year I enjoy most from either promotion.
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I stopped watching around mid 98 as well. I just didn't care for the Attitude Era at the time. It was popular among kids in school, but I found it vulgar and lost interest in the WWE after the Montreal Screwjob and was never the biggest Austin or DX fan.

I started watching the WWE again in mid 1999. I think there was some very good content in the second half of the year. HHH did some of the best work of his career as a heel, there was Jericho's debut and he had some fun moments that year (although he didn't really take off until later on), The Rock was pretty funny and some good tag team talent was emerging.

I'd say 2000 is the WWE's best year overall (although '97 was very good in some ways). I've seen/heard about some of the things that happened in the first half of '99, and I can't say I feel like I missed out on some great entertainment. The whole Corporate Ministry thing seems quite convoluted, with a disappointing payoff.
 
LEAFANFORLIFE23 said:
Having women's tag, IC and US titles are not bad things however I don't think they are needed.

Last time I counted the titles in WWE I got to 18 and I'm pretty sure I missed a couple.

I don't there is a need for 18 championships.

I think that's to many.

Also I think 2 royal rumbles in 1 night is to much.

If it were me the men would keep the Royal Rumble PPV.

The women would have their Royal Rumble in July and the winner of that would get a title match at Summerslam.
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The bolded is a large reason why WWE is considering going to a 2-night Royal Rumble
 
LEAFANFORLIFE23 said:
But that's unnecessary, just have a rumble in January and a rumble in July
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So you think it's fair a men's rumble leads to a wrestlemania title shot and a women's would leaf to a summer slam? why not just have wwe put up a sign telling everyone the women don't matter as much

I get the men are a bigger draw, but they need to keep things as even as possible.
 
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