GDT: UFC Fight Night: Cejudo vs. Song

[CDJ]

 

[Taytro]

There is a reason why it’s you vs everybody else in here and nobody is flip flopping, that’s a straw man. Did you have money on Song perhaps? You’re acting like what we’re saying is crazy when well-known, rational people hold the same beliefs. I know I was pissed off when Weidman won against Bruno Silva by spamming eye pokes like he’s in the 3 stooges

It’s a really bad foul (accidental or not) that had serious consequences on the fight. That’s an indisputable fact, it is what it is. This coming from somebody who finished like 18 units up the other night, idrc about the result of the main event. All my money was on Font/Fluffy/Silva

Cejudo has a f***ed up cornea and double vision and pictures of his bloody eye and you’re out here questioning it when you saw Song was knuckle deep lmao like cmon. He tried to gut through it to the end of the round- he specifically was asking Herzog how much time he had to make it until the end of the round during his 5 min break- and then realized he couldn’t continue after fighting a minute and seeing multiple Song’s. Did you not notice him completely stop throwing and only trying to survive after the fight resumed?

I don’t even like Henry, that was just a complete botch job by Herzog. Take points when a guy commits multiple fouls. Take points on serious eye pokes that impact the outcome of the fight. They have completely stopped doing that. People are like “oh they don’t want to insert themselves in the fight”….uh it’s their literal f***ing job. If fighters don’t want the ref “getting involved” stop committing multiple fouls, one of which causing serious injury in this instance.

What is the point of having rules if you don’t want them enforced anyway?

honestly if Herzog didn’t want to do his job and take a point the fight should have been ruled a Song KO- the fight restarted and the round had ended and Henry refused to get up from his stool. You could hear the panic in Herzog’s voice in between rounds 3 and 4, he knew he botched the situation. I’d be pissed if I had Song by KO, and I know plenty of ppl who did.


I will close with this- they did a study and fighters who eye poke their opponents win like 63% of the time or something like that. It’s the definition of an unfair advantage, and they need to even that out by taking points on deep eyepokes. Many of the people who are fouled feel like they have to continue or they’re p***yes because of fans (like you in this instance) accusing them of faking it so they continue with the fight and lose because they can’t see well out of that eye. Credit to Henry for calling it quits, no need to see a 38 YO get chinned because he sees multiple Yadong Song’s out of one eye. If you saw that final minute of the fight you knew he was toast post-poke.

It's almost as if you didn't read message because I didn't accuse anyone of faking anything, and I'm not questioning anything. I said that either Henry lied about being able to see and continue or he lied about being unable to see and unable to continue, those two things came within 1 minute of each other so one must have been untrue. Those are the two, and only two options. And both options are irresponsible, if I had it my way we wouldn't be making the fighter decide, the doctor and ref need to.

And no, I didn't have money on anyone, I just think it's absolutely ridiculous to consistently criticise refs. They catch heat when they deduct points, don't deduct points, stop the fight, don't stop the fight, etc. The rules heavily rely on their interpretation of the actions, so either we remove the interpretation or we stop complaining.

My personal opinion is that if a fighter needs to use the full 5 minutes to recover from a foul and doesn't give clear message that they are recovered from the foul, then the fight ends. NC if before 3 rounds, points if after 3 rounds, and a DQ if the ref deems it an intentional or repeated negligence. Not fair to be putting fighters in that situation and risking their health. If the ref thinks that an eye poke has serious impact to the outcome of the fight and/or impairs the vision of the fighter, then he needs to stop the fight, simple as that, not deduct a point because he's saying that fighters vision is compromised from a foul, it's unsafe for them to continue.

My main point was that we see multiple fouls in fights all the time, this was a bad one but it's not an usual circumstance by any means. If you think that as soon as a fighter commits 2 fouls that they get points get taken, then I'd listen to the argument... I don't think I'd agree but I'd listen.