GDT: UFC Fight Night: Cejudo vs. Song

[Taytro]

Still should’ve taken a point

Hard to take a point after just 2 fouls, both of which were clearly accidental. IMO you need to give a stern warning (telling them if they do it again you will take a point) OR see an egregious/purposeful foul that caused injury. Clearly this was neither. Idk what the refs are told on the matter but Herzog is a great ref so I trust he did the right thing.

 

[CDJ]

Hit huge on Font @ +136, +170, then live at +600

Main event was some bullshit from Herzog. Should’ve been a point taken and a majority draw but unfortunately cheating is legal in MMA these days

Hard to take a point after just 2 fouls, both of which were clearly accidental. IMO you need to give a stern warning (telling them if they do it again you will take a point) OR see an egregious/purposeful foul that caused injury. Clearly this was neither. Idk what the refs are told on the matter but Herzog is a great ref so I trust he did the right thing.

It’s not. You shouldn’t be given 3 strikes, this isn’t baseball. 1 is enough. That eye poke was vicious, doesn’t matter if it’s accidental

 

[MMC]

Hard to take a point after just 2 fouls

disagree

 

[MMC]

Dana said at the press conference he has no interest in rebooking it

 

[MMC]

Dana basically confirms Merab/Sean 2 will be next, Sean doesn't deserve that...

 

[Taytro]

It’s not. You shouldn’t be given 3 strikes, this isn’t baseball. 1 is enough. That eye poke was vicious, doesn’t matter if it’s accidental

disagree

Don't know where y'all get that from. It's very common to have 2+ fouls without a point deduction, in fact it happened earlier in the card. If you get points deducted after 1 foul, you'd have guys like Leon Edwards and Jon Jones having 5-10 points deducted per fight then you'd be complaining about too many point deductions ruining fights. Pretty sure Leon was stopped like 5 times in the fight with Kamaru and it only resulted in 1 point deduction.

The eye poke was not "vicious" because vicious literally means it was deliberate, so it being accidental does matter. It also occured when Cejudo was moving forward into it, unlike most eye pokes which are from the poker pawing at the face of the fighter who gets poked. That doesn't make it less of an eye poke, but I do think it makes it less likely to be punished.

At the end of the day the rules give the referee full discretion in those situations, and the professional referee disagrees with you. That being said, I do think something needs to change about fouls, I dont this fight had a problem with them. Just an unfortunate, but very common situation.

 

[BGDDYKWL]

What bothered me the most about the foul situation was immediately following the break, Song was walking Cejudo down with his hand wide open, fingers leading. That tells me he wasn't even making an effort to correct his mistakes.

Running it back is certainly reasonable, and sort of a respect thing for a legend maybe, but I don't really NEED to see this one again. Song is pretty clearly better than Cejudo at this stage of their careers.

 

[CDJ]

Don't know where y'all get that from. It's very common to have 2+ fouls without a point deduction, in fact it happened earlier in the card. If you get points deducted after 1 foul, you'd have guys like Leon Edwards and Jon Jones having 5-10 points deducted per fight then you'd be complaining about too many point deductions ruining fights. Pretty sure Leon was stopped like 5 times in the fight with Kamaru and it only resulted in 1 point deduction.

The eye poke was not "vicious" because vicious literally means it was deliberate, so it being accidental does matter. It also occured when Cejudo was moving forward into it, unlike most eye pokes which are from the poker pawing at the face of the fighter who gets poked. That doesn't make it less of an eye poke, but I do think it makes it less likely to be punished.

At the end of the day the rules give the referee full discretion in those situations, and the professional referee disagrees with you. That being said, I do think something needs to change about fouls, I dont this fight had a problem with them. Just an unfortunate, but very common situation.

He was knuckle deep in his eye, that’s brutal. You can split hairs over terminology all you want but you can hopefully admit it was a really bad eye poke.

And I want fouls to be penalized, otherwise there is no point in having rules. Not all fouls- but if you commit 2 in short order and the last one was really bad then yeah idc if it’s unintentional, it’s illegal and impacted the fight in a major way so you have to take a point. Put your f***ing fingers away if you didn’t want a point taken because of an accidental foul, easy solution to that problem for Song!

Song came out after the 5 min break and kept doing the same thing too. Just get rid of rules if you’re not gonna enforce them. Herzog is a p***y…as a matter of fact they all have been recently. Just letting fighters get away with everything. They should get rid of all rules if they’re going to be timid little boys.

Point should’ve been taken and it should’ve been a majority draw. Song committed a foul that blinded a man in one eye i don’t really see an argument against taking a point, especially since they restarted the fight with a man clearly compromised by a foul.