Prospect Info: Tyler Boucher (RW/LW) - Don`t sleep on Tyler Boucher

[Alf Silfversson]

Boucher didn’t get “wiped” by gaunce. That’s a lie by you. He got hit in the helmet a bunch got a couple good shots in himself dropped to his knees and skated away. Thats as good as I’ve ever seen Macewen fight and I’m expecting Boucher to improve.

Boucher got tuned in that fight. He's lucky to have not gotten hit square but he was a decisive loser in that bout. Got his ass kicked.

 

[Nac Mac Feegle]

You can't really turn someone into a fighter. Either you've got it, or you don't.

All you really want, is for the kid to know how to hang on and defend himself when idiots do the "see a teammate on the ice, must fight" routine.

 

[BondraTime]

Boucher has no problems dropping them, he’ll defend any hit he makes with anyone.


He’s not a heavyweight, and he’s not a turtle. He’ll answer any bell he has too. But he’s not going to be known for his fighting.

 

[jbeck5]

You can't really turn someone into a fighter. Either you've got it, or you don't.

All you really want, is for the kid to know how to hang on and defend himself when idiots do the "see a teammate on the ice, must fight" routine.

You can though. Plenty of the nicest guys off the ice that actually hated fighting but did it to stay in the NHL.

 

[Icelevel]

Boucher has no problems dropping them, he’ll defend any hit he makes with anyone.


He’s not a heavyweight, and he’s not a turtle. He’ll answer any bell he has too. But he’s not going to be known for his fighting.

Who’s saying he needs to be known for fighting anyway?
Have you seen Macewen fight? He’s absolutely terrible.

Boucher got tuned in that fight. He's lucky to have not gotten hit square but he was a decisive loser in that bout. Got his ass kicked.

I bet you gaunce was in more pain than Boucher after that one. He just smashed his hand into his helmet about 10 times. And Boucher skated away no worse for wear.

 

[BondraTime]

Who’s saying he needs to be known for fighting anyway?
Have you seen Macewen fight? He’s absolutely terrible.


I bet you gaunce was in more pain than Boucher after that one. He just smashed his hand into his helmet about 10 times. And Boucher skated away no worse for wear.

He doesn’t need to be known for fighting, which I’ve stated multiple times, especially because he’s not very big and isn’t a very good fighter as of now. He just needs to answer the bell, which he will.

I was responding to you saying he’s a better fighter than MacEwan, a much, much, much bigger guy who fights heavies 5/6 times a season and has over 50 fights to his name.

Yes, I’ve seen MacEwan fight since his time in the Martime Junior A league, no, I don’t think he’s one of the best fighters.

 

[Icelevel]

He doesn’t need to be known for fighting, which I’ve stated multiple times, especially because he’s not very big and isn’t a very good fighter as of now. He just needs to answer the bell, which he will.

I was responding to you saying he’s a better fighter than MacEwan, a much, much, much bigger guy who fights heavies 5/6 times a season and has over 50 fights to his name.

Yes, I’ve seen MacEwan fight since his time in the Martime Junior A league, no, I don’t think he’s one of the best fighters.

But you’re just stating macewens size and number of fights. That doesn’t make him a better fighter than anyone.
Here’s his last fight. He can’t fight. I could have posted any of his fights some of which are laughable like wth is going on type stuff but I’m using the most recent.

Like I’d say almost anyone is a better fighter than him. Yes including guys who haven’t even fought in the nhl.
Pezzetta is 6’1” btw

 

[BondraTime]

But you’re just stating macewens size and number of fights. That doesn’t make him a better fighter than anyone.
Here’s his last fight. He can’t fight. I could have posted any of his fights some of which are laughable like wth is going on type stuff but I’m using the most recent.

Like I’d say almost anyone is a better fighter than him. Yes including guys who haven’t even fought in the nhl.
Pezzetta is 6’1” btw

Yes, I’m stating that the 6’4, 240lb player who has been fighting every year since he was 15 with 50+ fights, is a better fighter than the 20 year old 6’1 205lb player who has a total of 5 fights in his career, only 1 as a pro

Geertson is 6’4 230 and has fought tons of guys, including Chara.



Schenn is 6’2 225 and has been a very successful fighter in the NHL.



McCarron is 6’6 and 240 pounds, has fought tons of heavys



There are tons more.

It’s fine that you don’t think he’s a great fighter, I don’t either, but to state that Boucher, who has zero track record, and not looked good when trying, is a better fighter than MacEwan is plain ignorance.

 

[Golden_Jet]

Thanks. My childhood hero of sorts , I'm currently building a tribute car to him.

I remember watching him at Mosport,
went to Mosport for a couple of the big weekends, twice a year for a long time.

Even got to do a couple of laps on the track, spun out at 5c in the rain, did a 360, and floored it up the Andretti straightaway.

 

[PlayersLtd]

I remember watching him at Mosport,
went to Mosport for a couple of the big weekends, twice a year for a long time.

Even got to do a couple of laps on the track, spun out at 5c in the rain, did a 360, and floored it up the Andretti straightaway.

Amazing! Mosport is such a good track. Everything CART PPG from the mid 90's and earlier was the glory days of open wheel racing imo. During COVID I nerded out hard and watched every season in its entirety from '86 to late 90's. Such good racing.

 

[R2010]

He doesn’t need to be known for fighting, which I’ve stated multiple times, especially because he’s not very big and isn’t a very good fighter as of now. He just needs to answer the bell, which he will.

I was responding to you saying he’s a better fighter than MacEwan, a much, much, much bigger guy who fights heavies 5/6 times a season and has over 50 fights to his name.

Yes, I’ve seen MacEwan fight since his time in the Martime Junior A league, no, I don’t think he’s one of the best fighters.

Exactly. It's not about being an intimidating fighter in his case - it's just about the style of game and the eventuality that he'll have to fight given that style. As long as he can hold his own (after he gains experience) then it'll be fine.

 

[Bileur]

Yes, I’m stating that the 6’4, 240lb player who has been fighting every year since he was 15 with 50+ fights, is a better fighter than the 20 year old 6’1 205lb player who has a total of 5 fights in his career, only 1 as a pro

Geertson is 6’4 230 and has fought tons of guys, including Chara.



Schenn is 6’2 225 and has been a very successful fighter in the NHL.



McCarron is 6’6 and 240 pounds, has fought tons of heavys



There are tons more.

It’s fine that you don’t think he’s a great fighter, I don’t either, but to state that Boucher, who has zero track record, and not looked good when trying, is a better fighter than MacEwan is plain ignorance.

He’s definitely better than Boucher.

That said I’m shocked he’s listed at 240. A guy that big and that willing should be much better at fighting.

 

[RAFI BOMB]

You can't really turn someone into a fighter. Either you've got it, or you don't.

All you really want, is for the kid to know how to hang on and defend himself when idiots do the "see a teammate on the ice, must fight" routine.

You can teach someone how to fight and improve their fighting skill. The only thing that people either have or don't have is a desire and willingness to fight.

Boucher has plenty of fight in him. If he wants to get better at fighting, he will get better. This is the first time in his entire career that he actually has competent fighters as teammates. Plenty of players learn how to be decent fighters by having a legit fighter as a teammate and being a bit of a sparring partner for them. He has Boko and Saulnier to help give him advice and show him the ropes. Even Ostapchuk seems to have a pretty good grasp on fighting techniques.

Boucher is pretty similar to Deslauries when he started out in the pros. Deslauries is one of the top fighters in the league now but when he first turned pro he was just a big, strong kid with a willingness to drop the gloves. He learned how to be the fighter he is now with years of practice and hard work.

Boucher could become a very competent fighter and one of the better ones in the league if he puts in the work towards it. The key thing is that is role in the AHL and projected role in the NHL doesn't demand it. He shouldn't be prioritizing improving his fighting skill over other skill development.

If Boucher becomes a top tier fighter it will be because he has a passion for it and worked on it on the side. Kind of like how Brady Tkachuk is a big fan of the UFC and decided to pick up boxing as a hobby. Boucher can learn from guys like Boko, Saulnier and even guys like Currie and Ostapchuk at the AHL level. He can go get tips from Chris Neil when he does his training in Ottawa. He can learn from Brady if he wants.

People on here tend to judge him as if he is a finished product when the fact is that he is pretty raw. Give him time and see what he becomes.

 

[coladin]

Amazing! Mosport is such a good track. Everything CART PPG from the mid 90's and earlier was the glory days of open wheel racing imo. During COVID I nerded out hard and watched every season in its entirety from '86 to late 90's. Such good racing.

Don't want to derail this too much , but would love to see where your project it at.

That Hallowe'en of 1999, i was stunningly giving out candies with my CART here gone. Tony George killed a phenomenal series. To me , it was worse than May 1 1994.

 

[Xspyrit]

If this kid makes it, crows are going to go extinct from the amount y'all gonna be eating.

Nothing to do with him making it or not, it has to do with drafting a possible 4th liner with a 10th overall pick. I don't think anyone doesn't want Boucher to "make it"

It was stupid, it is stupid and it will be stupid

 

[HSF]

If this kid makes it, crows are going to go extinct from the amount y'all gonna be eating.

nothing points to this guy even remotely being effective in the nhl

 

[dumbdick]

nothing points to this guy even remotely being effective in the nhl

So a double order then? You must be hungry.

 

[HSF]

So a double order then? You must be hungry.

nah just not delusional.

People now leaning towards him being an enforcer....the bar just keeps dropping

His stats don't support him being close to an NHL player

 

[dumbdick]

nah just not delusional.

People now leaning towards him being an enforcer....the bar just keeps dropping

His stats don't support him being close to an NHL player

You shouldn't focus on stats with Boucher. He's going to be a two-way energy guy playing in the bottom six. He skates well, shoots well, forechecks and plays a high energy game.

He's likely never going to be a top six power forward, but he'll be an upgrade on our 4th line guys, and likely a coach favourite.

 

[BondraTime]

You shouldn't focus on stats with Boucher. He's going to be a two-way energy guy playing in the bottom six.

He’s not a 2 way guy, isn’t a guy you want our defensively, or offensively.

He’s a physical spark plug, and has a very unique play style and attitude for that kind of game, but he doesn’t have defensive or offensive upside.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

He’s not a 2 way guy, isn’t a guy you want our defensively, or offensively.

He’s a physical spark plug, and has a very unique play style and attitude for that kind of game, but he doesn’t have defensive or offensive upside.

Missed a lot of hockey. Not much maturity in his game right now. Needs Reps. Needs coaching. I would put him in the ECHL.. and see if he can handle a bigger role.

 

[PlayersLtd]

Don't want to derail this too much , but would love to see where your project it at.

That Hallowe'en of 1999, i was stunningly giving out candies with my CART here gone. Tony George killed a phenomenal series. To me , it was worse than May 1 1994.

Oh man, you are talking my language. I was heavy into the open wheel war and was a staunch Champ Car guy. Everything fIRL to me was about as rotten as the maple leafs and I can't watch it to this day becasue of what Tony George ruined.

Car is coming along slowly. Roll cage and interior fabrication happening next month, suspension is designed and I've amassed most of the parts to forge ahead but it will be a looong path. The Greg Moore part will be a powder blue Player's Indeck inspired livery and it will wear number 99. And engineering the car is a race shop in Laval called 'Mooresport' which is total coincidence but kinda cool.

Will DM pics when re-assembly starts happening.

Okay, sorry for the off topic everyone!

 

[dumbdick]

He’s not a 2 way guy, isn’t a guy you want our defensively, or offensively.

He’s a physical spark plug, and has a very unique play style and attitude for that kind of game, but he doesn’t have defensive or offensive upside.

His shot is good. His skating is good. His motor is excellent. Time will tell, but I'm convinced he's got the tools and drive to be more than just a sparkplug. I think he'll get there (in some capacity).

I think we just need to reset expectations and the timeline for him as a prospect. He'll never meet the initial expectations or draft position. He was a project who got injured and lost a lot of dev time. Team took a longshot pick that probably wasnt going to pan out as expected, regardless, but the injuries certainly didn't help.

Pretend he was drafted in the 3rd round. He's 13 games into his pro career. He has 18 shots in his last 6 games. I think he'll be fine.

 

[OD99]

His shot is good. His skating is good. His motor is excellent. Time will tell, but I'm convinced he's got the tools and drive to be more than just a sparkplug. I think he'll get there (in some capacity).

I think we just need to reset expectations and the timeline for him as a prospect. He'll never meet the initial expectations or draft position. He was a project who got injured and lost a lot of dev time. Team took a longshot pick that probably wasnt going to pan out as expected, regardless, but the injuries certainly didn't help.

Pretend he was drafted in the 3rd round. He's 13 games into his pro career. He has 18 shots in his last 6 games. I think he'll be fine.

Look at his entire hockey career. He hasn't been a scorer at any level, and I really doubt he finds that as a pro.

 

[dumbdick]

Look at his entire hockey career. He hasn't been a scorer at any level, and I really doubt he finds that as a pro.

I'm anticipating he'll play bottom six in the NHL.