Former Bruins Tyler Bertuzzi
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Question for you guys (I come from the red wings boards) and I don't want to get crazy into the details because no one wants to be banned or suspended (I'm sure?):
Let's say everything goes right and you guys are willing to pay whatever his contract demands are. Would you guys lower his potential earnings with you guys because he does not have the Covid vaccine?
Personally, if this was 2020 or 2021, I could see and even make the argument that he should get a salary that is less than fair market value because he would be "working" less days/hours because he cannot go to Canada multiple times because of the quarantine rules. But because this is 2023, plenty of research papers have been made and the lifting of the quarantine rules (whether that already happened or is about to), I don't think his vaccine status should matter when it comes to his earnings potential.
So, I am curious, since you are a completely different fan base, would love some input on your thoughts.
edit: the quarantine status was lifted in OCT 2022 I see.
Let's say everything goes right and you guys are willing to pay whatever his contract demands are. Would you guys lower his potential earnings with you guys because he does not have the Covid vaccine?
Personally, if this was 2020 or 2021, I could see and even make the argument that he should get a salary that is less than fair market value because he would be "working" less days/hours because he cannot go to Canada multiple times because of the quarantine rules. But because this is 2023, plenty of research papers have been made and the lifting of the quarantine rules (whether that already happened or is about to), I don't think his vaccine status should matter when it comes to his earnings potential.
So, I am curious, since you are a completely different fan base, would love some input on your thoughts.
edit: the quarantine status was lifted in OCT 2022 I see.
You make great points here. I doubt that they break up the Czech mates though.
Your point about the coaches watching Bertuzzis play preferences
makes me wonder if the Boston video staff pulled video and created
a compilation of his tendencies in the o zone and d zone for the
rest of the team to view. A lot of his play is instinctual and often I
see a lot of Foligno in his game awareness, puck distribution\protection and panic threshold. I as a player would like to see as much video as possible on a new player joining the team.
Oates2Neely
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Tyler Bertuzzi’s best spot appears to be on the Bruins’ third line - The Boston Globe
Coach Jim Montgomery has tried him on the first and second units, but Bertuzzi seems to mix well with Charlie Coyle and Trent Frederic.
www.bostonglobe.com
ST. PAUL — During last weekend’s home-and-home with Detroit, Tyler Bertuzzi rode with David Krejciand David Pastrnak (Saturday) and Patrice Bergeron and Brad Marchand (Sunday). That may be a one-off.
Bruins coach Jim Montgomery likes to pour different chemicals into his laboratory test tubes, especially when injuries dictate (Taylor Hall and Nick Foligno remain missing in action). He wanted to see what kind of reaction Bertuzzi’s game — strong on the walls, soft hands, good timing and vision — would have with those flammable pairs.
While neither of those lines scored with Bertuzzi on them, they both controlled shot attempts by healthy margins. Montgomery may have already had the right mix, however, with Bertuzzi to the left of Trent Frederic and Charlie Coyle.
“That line’s been really good,” Montgomery said after Thursday’s 3-0 win at Winnipeg. “I just tried something different, and was probably overcoaching, when I took him off that line.”
They have three goals in four games together, with one allowed. On Thursday, Frederic scored off a smart feed from Bertuzzi, who also set up Coyle in a similar fashion two weeks earlier against the Rangers. In a loss to the Blackhawks, Bertuzzi won a battle and delivered a sharp feed for a Frederic tap-in. Coyle’s strength on the puck has been drawing double teams, like the one that freed his mates and helped them make it 1-0 in the first minute against the Jets.
They’re producing while still finding their own chemistry, too. On Thursday, Frederic and Bertuzzi missed a few short connections that, if made, would have put the Bruins in odd-man situations.
“He sees the ice really well,” Frederic said. “He’s helping me a lot, the way he plays. Just for chances, we could have had a couple more that we just barely missed on. Chuck’s the same way. He sees it really well on that first play, just simple.”
Frederic already has career-high numbers (15-11–26 in 64 games) and has been a tough matchup on the third line.
“Freddy’s offensive confidence has really grown,” Montgomery said. “I think he knows he can score in this league. He finds those soft pockets in the offensive zone, supporting guys that like to handle the puck down low, like Coyle and Bertuzzi. He’s a really good 200-foot player.”
LouJersey
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Bertuzzi needs more time to acclimate imo. No interest in extending him right now
This is what has surprised me the most, even having seen a good bit of him when was with Detroit. The guy has great vision and passing touch.
I think it isn't a huge stretch to say that he is the best passer on the team. His vision and ability to get off clean, quick, crisp, accurate passes is top tier.
McGarnagle
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I'm in no way advocating breaking up the top 6 as currently constructed, but in case of any injury or any other circumstance that would shake things up, I thought he looked really good this weekend when he was taking shifts with Krejci. Best he's looked since arriving TBQH.
DKH
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Bertuzzi and Pastrnak on same line : epic
Do it Donny
As a hockey savant I’m blown away at how wrong I was about how Bertuzzi sees the game
Do it Donny
As a hockey savant I’m blown away at how wrong I was about how Bertuzzi sees the game
DKH
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Exactly- I would bet Detroit will go after him considering how upset Larkin was - and a few days later signed contract
Sweeney signs him the Bruins basically replace Krejci when he goes with a plus top 6 F
Hypothetically
Marchand - Bergeron/ - DeBrusk
Bertuzzi - Zacha- Pastrnak
Hall - Coyle - Freddy
This team would be set up for another run
Not sure Krejci retires - I can see another year
McGarnagle
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The more I watch the more I realize that Bertuzzi is an insurance policy, not unlike Pevs in 2011 when Horton went down. If a top 6 wing gets hurt, Bertuzzi goes in and we're still in pretty good shape. Top 9 C goes down, Zacha slots in there and Bertuzzi goes on the wing vacated by Zacha, and we're again in okay shape. Obviously you don't want to lose a Pasta or a Bergeron, but you have to admit that Don's prepared for just about every contingency here to cover for any possibility and this team will be competitive in the playoffs.
I have always loved the way he has played and always thought it would be great to get him ,but to be honest I was a little shocked that they got him. I also thought the first few games he looked a little uncomfortable , but that last few games he seems to be fitting right in and coming at a perfect time....... I think we all have put our two cents in on who should be in or out of the lineup but to be honest these guys are making it hard for this coaching staff to make out a lineup. The players have accepted the challenge of wanting to be in the line up.....
goldnblack
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In a post Krejci post Bergeron world you need this guy. I tried to make this lineup and couldn't make it cap compliant. That's even with trading Gryz and Hall
Bertuzzi-Zacha-Pasta
Marchand-Coyle-Debrusk
Frederic-UFA (but cheap)-Greer/Lysell
Lauko-Nosek-Hathaway
Orlov-Charlie
Hampus-Carlo
Zboril-Forbort
It seems to me like it's impossible for Orlov and Bertuzzi to both be Bruins, which sucks because frankly we'd need both. It's even harder to keep both goalies AND Freddy. I guess we need Bertuzzi much more than Orlov. I'm starting to lean that way and that breaks my heart.
Bertuzzi-Zacha-Pasta
Marchand-Coyle-Debrusk
Frederic-UFA (but cheap)-Greer/Lysell
Lauko-Nosek-Hathaway
Orlov-Charlie
Hampus-Carlo
Zboril-Forbort
It seems to me like it's impossible for Orlov and Bertuzzi to both be Bruins, which sucks because frankly we'd need both. It's even harder to keep both goalies AND Freddy. I guess we need Bertuzzi much more than Orlov. I'm starting to lean that way and that breaks my heart.
missingchicklet
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Just no way to keep so much talent long-term unfortunately. This season has been an extreme anomaly since two top 6 centers came in on the cheap, injury situation worked out in the Bs favor, and the deadline was pure gold.
Hopefully Bertuzzi is making some good friends in Boston and will want to stay. He and Dylan can still be besties. Larkin can clean up the boat and get it ready for summer fishing while Bertuzzi is in the playoffs.
DS has a tough decision. Bert is 3 years younger than Hall. Neither player is a third liner. Top 6 is where their skillsets are. Makes no sense to have both. As I mentioned on the previous page, Bertuzzi with Pastrnak is a very interesting proposition. Bertuzzi's playmaking ability, grit, and high IQ are custom made for being on a line with an elite scorer. Zacha in the middle makes it look like a formidable line to stop. Just guessing, but I think Bertuzzi could be signed by DS to a long deal at around Hall money (maybe less) if the Bs decide they'd rather have him at 2LW than Hall. There will be a lot of teams interested in signing him, that's a given.
AngryMilkcrates
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Bertuzzi has created a problem that did not exist before:
The Czech line has been hot all year.
Yet with Bert playing top 6 he has proven that the ol' "If it ain't broke, don't fix it"
may not be true here. Adding him to the top 6 could make it better.
I'm not advocating for any lineup changes. But Berts play has added options and ideas to Monty's arsenal that we did not have previous.
Thats a good thing and speaks well for the player.
The Czech line has been hot all year.
Yet with Bert playing top 6 he has proven that the ol' "If it ain't broke, don't fix it"
may not be true here. Adding him to the top 6 could make it better.
I'm not advocating for any lineup changes. But Berts play has added options and ideas to Monty's arsenal that we did not have previous.
Thats a good thing and speaks well for the player.
rocketdan9
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I think it will be tough tbh
He will seek greener pastures
One would assume that the RW offered him... something like at 6 years at 5.5m per. Larkin and Bertuzzi are tight...so better to keep both. But Yzerman couldn't get it done
I hope he stays for a fair/hometown discount.
Cant pay too much...as the Bruins will also be required to pay a raise (Debrusk, Swayman)... find a top 9 C
rocketdan9
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I'm on the fence.... what is he now + 40?
That bodycheck yesterday(late)... never seen that from him. Good for him
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