McHelpus
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I'd rather have Emberson as a bottom pairing guy and build him up. Throwing him in the top 4D with 30 games experience is very delusional.
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oobga
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Don't think a long term solution has been on this roster at any point in Nurse's career. There were periods of good fortune, like the last week of finals last year. Periods where Nurse's play was masked by McDavid dominance as Nurse got the lions share of McDavid time, but you could still break down his ice time and see how much he was struggling without McDavid pushing play for him. Maybe little spurts with Ceci and Barrie, but nothing that lasted so long you were confident you would stick with it.
Chia passed on the task to Holland. Holland passed it on to Bowman, and gave a Nurse 9.25M unmovable, buyout proof deal to ensure we had no choice but to somehow find the perfect complimentary player for Nurse for our 2nd D pair isn't a weak link. And now we pray that Bowman somehow knows what that player needs to be, and can get it.
ManofSteel55
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That's what happens in a perfect world. Unfortunately, we don't have a 2RD. So it's either him or Stecher. I'm not sure who the better option is.
And this is the difficult thing. It's very possible that we acquire just the right d man on paper, only for the pair to flop due to Nurse's ineptitude. He is not an easy player to play with.
I guess in that case you could just play Kulak with the new acquisition (assuming that player is a driver) and probably be fine. But then you have Nurse making a mess with someone else on the bottom pair probably.
Not sure I'd say that about the Dallas series
Nurse Kulak, 47 minutes, 1 GF, 3GA
Nurse Dehairnais, 35 minutes, 0 GF, 3GA
Nurse Ceci, 33 minutes, 2 GF, 1GA
Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't have gone back to Ceci-Nurse either, but Kulak did notably worse when paired with Nurse. Well, as did Dehairnais and Ceci so you cannot put that all on Kulak.
oobga
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I wouldn't just isolate that one series.
Nurse + Ceci xGA/60 was 3.81 in the playoffs
Nurse + Kulak xGA/60 was 1.46
Nurse + Broberg was 4.4 xGA/60
They did get scored on, all in games we won. The complete chaos though that surrounded Nurse in the first 2 rounds when he was working on a minus record, and in the finals was gone for most of that Dallas series. Nurse is lucky that the chaos was countered by Skinner spinning on his head in the finals which let us make that series more entertaining than a sweep. The only guy in the playoffs that we saw Nurse play some non-endless disaster hockey with was Kulak.
There was a very good reason Knob resorted to pushing Kulak out of his comfort zone for the week or so. We all saw the impending disaster that the Nurse pair was looking like. He likely experiences way more than 3 GA the rest of that series if we kept him with Ceci or Vinny. Dallas was not a team that was going to pass up targeting such an obvious liability.
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brentashton
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I’d run Stecher with Nurse and Embo with Kulak. Stecher has NHL experience to help ride out the inevitable Nurse brain farts. Let Emberson play with Kulak and get confident with the team and systems.
Didn't even look like an NHLer in game one; mediocre positioning, weak on pucks, iffy passing and puckhandling. Hopefully just jitters and he has a bounce back game tonight with Kulak.
nexttothemoon
and again...
In fairness to Emberson... Skinner (both of them).. might as well have been AHL players as well.
The entire top 6 looked weak and ineffective out there. The $9.25 million dman on Emerson's pairing might as well have been a player just up from Bako as well. Would Gleason have looked any worse... probably not.
Bright side is there's a lot of room to improve from that shitshow and we know there's players here that can be much, much better than they showed vs Winnipeg. I'd much rather have all those issues in game #1 of the season rather than game #1 of the playoffs so they have 81 more games to get the stink off the team and kill this hangover that they are going through.
The entire top 6 looked weak and ineffective out there. The $9.25 million dman on Emerson's pairing might as well have been a player just up from Bako as well. Would Gleason have looked any worse... probably not.
Bright side is there's a lot of room to improve from that shitshow and we know there's players here that can be much, much better than they showed vs Winnipeg. I'd much rather have all those issues in game #1 of the season rather than game #1 of the playoffs so they have 81 more games to get the stink off the team and kill this hangover that they are going through.
Bryanbryoil
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He's drawing in again tonight on the 3rd pairing next to Kulak. That is where he belongs right now. Putting him (or any inexperienced player) with Nurse is a recipe for disaster right now. I think that he is a very toolsy player that should start gaining traction if his job description is simplified a bit.
guymez
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I agree completely.
The problem was that they brought him in with the intent to play him on the 2nd pair with Nurse.
2 obvious problems with that...First Emberson isnt even close to being ready to play in the top 4 and second Nurse is absolutely the wrong player to expect to mentor a green dman.
Yet management thought that playing Emberson with Nurse was a good idea.
That concerns me.
Also met Emberson and got his autograph at the autograph session earlier. Really nice guy. Rooting for him here.
NeverForget06
Here we go again !
And then the wisdom is if it doesn't work with Emberson, we bring in a guy who was in the press box to play second pair?
That concerns me!
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