Player Discussion Tuukka Rask - Part III - MOD WARNING 671

[chrisab123]

So there was zero pressure on him when the team was struggling to score in the beginning of the year, to the point where 1-2 against and we probably lose?

Yes compared to March there is no pressure. Which was a bigger game the Islanders this weekend or Buffalo in November?

 

[NDiesel]

Sure and I don't know why. Maybe because the overall team had more talent? No clue. But you're seriously buying that in the two biggest games of the last two years he magically gets hurt or sick the day of?

Yes, I am buying the fact that illness and injuries can occur at anytime without giving notice. If Bergeron missed the two biggest games of the last two seasons I'd love to see what you or others would say on here.

Like I keep saying, Rask is not immune from criticism he needs to be better, but this place seems to consistently root against him, regardless whether the regular naysayers want to admit it or not.

 

[DarrenBanks56]

I mean no one really knows if that's true.But I would think it would have leaked out by now. However, goalies are always fickle. I personally believe he quit but that's obviously an opinion. Just like the Crohns rumor or that he just became a train wreck after the Philly series. Yes, he was great at the beginning of the year but there was zero pressure on him compared to now.

come on now

 

[ON3M4N]

Yes compared to March there is no pressure. Which was a bigger game the Islanders this weekend or Buffalo in November?

Every game has pressure. If you lose every game till March it doesn't matter what you do through March because your season is already over. If you don't think there was any pressure on a goalie carry a struggling offense to start the season then your crazy.

 

[Hali33]

Yes, I am buying the fact that illness and injuries can occur at anytime without giving notice. If Bergeron missed the two biggest games of the last two seasons I'd love to see what you or others would say on here.

Like I keep saying, Rask is not immune from criticism he needs to be better, but this place seems to consistently root against him, regardless whether the regular naysayers want to admit it or not.

Lots of goalies in this league over the past few years, still awaiting the names of those who have these sudden short term illnesses that occur during major games that can compare to Rask.

Also, if Rask was dealing with an injury serious enough that makes it reasonable to miss the NYI game I would be pretty surprised to hear Cassidy criticizing his play, unless he's a total ******. Also, did any teammate speak up on his behalf during the criticism over Rask missing that game, something as simple as "we know he's been playing through something and he'd be here if he could"?

 

[bruins repeat time]

You mean like someone pretending something like this was said?



Literally (literally literally) no one ever said that.

Go read the Morrow thread ---as good as Carlson, a number 2 right now. reminds me of keith.

I will try to explain this better and for the record I know you are not a fan of morrow . I will also point out I made this comment before the so called actual decision was made .


The vote when I looked was almost 3-1 A.K with very very few saying id play a.k but Cassidy will go rask

Nhl coaches in same position id say 29-1 play rask and I am being kind saying 1 might not




Pretended we voted on here a month a go who should play more morrow or k.miller results would be like 3 or 4 to 1 morrow

nhl coaches 29-1 k .miller --again I am being even more kind giving 1

 

[bruins repeat time]

Lots of goalies in this league over the past few years, still awaiting the names of those who have these sudden short term illnesses that occur during major games that can compare to Rask.

Also, if Rask was dealing with an injury serious enough that makes it reasonable to miss the NYI game I would be pretty surprised to hear Cassidy criticizing his play, unless he's a total ******. Also, did any teammate speak up on his behalf during the criticism over Rask missing that game, something as simple as "we know he's been playing through something and he'd be here if he could"?

I do agree with the fact rask has missed more big games with short term illness than anyone . Can someone tell me what Cassidy said exactly. With all that said he had just played three in four nights and if he was mentally drained and a bit physically hurt it was handled in the right way to get him the most rest possible . I have said before the players in my eyes have went out of their way in general to praise rask for his play so I don't see the hate that is now being speculated . I also admitted I have seen many rask stares so I don't know if he is a great team guy or not but again I haven't noticed anything from player interviews that even point to an issue. Of course I get they aren't going to say it but Ive seen no hints.

 

[EverettMike]

Go read the Morrow thread ---as good as Carlson, a number 2 right now. reminds me of keith.

I will try to explain this better and for the record I know you are not a fan of morrow . I will also point out I made this comment before the so called actual decision was made .


The vote when I looked was almost 3-1 A.K with very very few saying id play a.k but Cassidy will go rask

Nhl coaches in same position id say 29-1 play rask and I am being kind saying 1 might not




Pretended we voted on here a month a go who should play more morrow or k.miller results would be like 3 or 4 to 1 morrow

nhl coaches 29-1 k .miller --again I am being even more kind giving 1

I would play Khudobin tonight for a few reasons:

1) If Rask really is hurt, hurt enough he couldn't even dress last game, give him another night to recover. It's about winning the war, not the battle.

2) Give Rask a kick in the ass if he's not exactly committed right now. Doesn't look like his normal self to me. Maybe some motivation could help.

3) Give the team a kick in the ass if they aren't exactly behind Tuukka.

 

[NDiesel]

Lots of goalies in this league over the past few years, still awaiting the names of those who have these sudden short term illnesses that occur during major games that can compare to Rask.

So because no other goalie has gotten sick late in the year then Rask must have been mentally soft. Got it.

Also, if Rask was dealing with an injury serious enough that makes it reasonable to miss the NYI game I would be pretty surprised to hear Cassidy criticizing his play, unless he's a total ******. Also, did any teammate speak up on his behalf during the criticism over Rask missing that game, something as simple as "we know he's been playing through something and he'd be here if he could"?

Ah Rask was injured but his teammate didn't acknowledge it, he must be faking it.

Have anything logical?

 

[bruins repeat time]

I would play Khudobin tonight for a few reasons:

1) If Rask really is hurt, hurt enough he couldn't even dress last game, give him another night to recover. It's about winning the war, not the battle.

2) Give Rask a kick in the ass if he's not exactly committed right now. Doesn't look like his normal self to me. Maybe some motivation could help.

3) Give the team a kick in the ass if they aren't exactly behind Tuukka.

I certainly respect points one and two a bit but Cassidy said when he was scratching him I expect tuukka at practice Monday which is why I said if another goalie isn't recalled Monday he will be playing .

I don't believe any coach would even ride A.k until he loses but in this case the one or two actually might start A.k for one more.

Cassidy made it pretty clear today he doesn't think Tuukka can be over played and perform to his best so I am guessing you wont see the 3 in 4 nights again as long as he is the coach.

 

[Hali33]

So because no other goalie has gotten sick late in the year then Rask must have been mentally soft. Got it.



Ah Rask was injured but his teammate didn't acknowledge it, he must be faking it.

Have anything logical?

Great, give me the names of the goalies who have 3 major absences in 3 years that recover immediately when the game is over. If this is normal it shouldn't be a challenge.

Why would a coach publicly criticize an injured player? There was plenty of criticism for him over the past few days, I find it strange no one would speak on an injured vet's behalf.

 

[NDiesel]

I would play Khudobin tonight for a few reasons:

1) If Rask really is hurt, hurt enough he couldn't even dress last game, give him another night to recover. It's about winning the war, not the battle.

2) Give Rask a kick in the ass if he's not exactly committed right now. Doesn't look like his normal self to me. Maybe some motivation could help.

3) Give the team a kick in the ass if they aren't exactly behind Tuukka.

I would do it mostly for number 1. Game is against Preds...certainly very important but not as important as some of the upcoming games against Eastern foes.

 

[chrisab123]

Yes, I am buying the fact that illness and injuries can occur at anytime without giving notice. If Bergeron missed the two biggest games of the last two seasons I'd love to see what you or others would say on here.

Like I keep saying, Rask is not immune from criticism he needs to be better, but this place seems to consistently root against him, regardless whether the regular naysayers want to admit it or not.

During the two biggest games of the last two years? Strange coincidence then indeed...I'm sure next year when it's a must win game and Rask is nowhere to be found you'll buy that he's sick again too. Rask apologists man...he's never won as a starter here and he's beyond reproach. It's laughable at this point.

 

[chrisab123]

come on now

So illness can't leak out? Just like Kessels illness never leaked.

 

[chrisab123]

Every game has pressure. If you lose every game till March it doesn't matter what you do through March because your season is already over. If you don't think there was any pressure on a goalie carry a struggling offense to start the season then your crazy.

So in your eyes a November game is just important as a must win game in March when your team is on a 5 game skid and your highest paid player is nowhere to be found? Because he seemingly keeps getting sick/hurt around the time when they need him the most. Just saying the logic is flawed in any sport. Sure yes every game in theory is important but there are levels of importance to each game. Sure he carried them at the beginning of the season that's never been the issue with him. Rask is a fine goalie. But you can't keep overlooking that between March and April that if the Bruins are in a must win situation you cannot count on him. He's essentially Luongo in his prime. Good goalie but under pressure is unreliable. You can say give me more than 2 games and I could come back with the Bronze medal game but the amount that was at stake for those two games outweighs a lot.

Just saying if Rask was Carey Price in this situation we would be roasting Price for tapping out twice in two years. Doesn't make Rask a bad goalie but you can't 100% trust him to show up either.

 

[bruinmann77]

Hope rask is first healthy and second is on his game can't afford to let in any Cheapies

 

[missingchicklet]

Sick, hurt, or whatever, he needs to get it done tonight. Bs D needs to stand strong like it did last game. If those two things happen the Bs will be fine.

 

[Rubber Biscuit]

Amalie Benjamin tweeting something about MacIntyre being recalled again...

 

[Caper Bruins fan]

Amalie Benjamin tweeting something about MacIntyre being recalled again...

I just read on Twitter it is to replace Dobby but no one seems to know for sure

 

[22Brad Park]

Never a doubt in my mind if Rask says he is good to go it's him in the pipes.

 

[VanIsle]

So illness can't leak out? Just like Kessels illness never leaked.

Funny this was just on the sportstalk the other day.

Kessel is 4th in active streaks among NHLers and 11th all time.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NHL_players_with_500_consecutive_games_played

 

[CDJ]

I'm sorry but either Rask is the unluckiest player in the world (all 4 main sports) by things such as him ******** himself or a LBI right before huge games OR there is something else. Rask apologists in general are the worst. The dude is supremely talented. You can't take that away from him. BUT what good is that if you cannot rely on him? He needs out of Boston in the worst way and needs to go to a market like Arizona or Vegas where no one will criticize him. He's a mental train wreck.

The fact you get labeled "the worst" for saying a guy shouldn't play ****ING GOALIE when he's ******** his pants and nauseated while running the risk of dehydration is peak knuckle dragging LF.


He just took off game 73 or whatever against a ****** team because he wasn't feeling right. Just want to keep throwing this out there. It wasn't game 82. He's probably not playing every single game down the stretch. People need to shut the **** up and stop speculating about something they know nothing about. Talk about his underperformance if you want since the calendar flipped, totally fair. But it's a lot of the same old tired crap.

 

[WhalerTurnedBruin55]

The fact you get labeled "the worst" for saying a guy shouldn't play ****ING GOALIE when he's ******** his pants and nauseated while running the risk of dehydration is peak knuckle dragging LF.


He just took off game 73 or whatever against a ****** team because he wasn't feeling right. Just want to keep throwing this out there. It wasn't game 82. He's probably not playing every single game down the stretch. People need to shut the **** up and stop speculating about something they know nothing about. Talk about his underperformance if you want since the calendar flipped, totally fair. But it's a lot of the same old tired crap.

Someone's cranky.

 

[WhalerTurnedBruin55]

Save the day, Rask. That's all we are asking.

 

[HumBucker]

The fact you get labeled "the worst" for saying a guy shouldn't play ****ING GOALIE when he's ******** his pants and nauseated while running the risk of dehydration is peak knuckle dragging LF.


He just took off game 73 or whatever against a ****** team because he wasn't feeling right. Just want to keep throwing this out there. It wasn't game 82. He's probably not playing every single game down the stretch. People need to shut the **** up and stop speculating about something they know nothing about. Talk about his underperformance if you want since the calendar flipped, totally fair. But it's a lot of the same old tired crap.

Excellent post! The idle speculation is nonsense. People at the game last season reported seeing Rask and said he was pale as a ghost. Plus, if he's Mr. No Show in big games, how come he's playing tonight?