Player Discussion Tuukka Rask - Part III - MOD WARNING 671

[ON3M4N]

Didn't he shut himself down the second he got to practice Friday by saying he's doesn't think he can go 36 hours later? Before he even tried to practice?

“He’s day-to-day,†Cassidy said after the morning skate in Brooklyn. “He came in yesterday, had some discomfort — lower-body — he had some work done and didn’t feel that he’d be ready to go today.â€

Doesn't quite sound like he just shut himself down. Sounds like he went in, tried to have the team staff work on the issue and after it didn't help the decision was made. Don't think for a second that the team staff didn't give Rask, Cassidy & Sweeney their input on the best course of action.

 

[LouJersey]

Yuuuuup.

Not sure why people can't be irritated/skeptical of his "tap out" Saturday?

 

[LouJersey]

“He’s day-to-day,†Cassidy said after the morning skate in Brooklyn. “He came in yesterday, had some discomfort — lower-body — he had some work done and didn’t feel that he’d be ready to go today.â€

Doesn't quite sound like he just shut himself down. Sounds like he went in, tried to have the team staff work on the issue and after it didn't help the decision was made. Don't think for a second that the team staff didn't give Rask, Cassidy & Sweeney their input on the best course of action.

All I read is HE.. Nothing about anyone else saying they felt like he couldn't go.

Any of his teammates come out and comment on the situation? Did anyone ask them?

 

[Tampbear]

First I don't want to play a goalie that doesn't feel up for it, even if the reason is his head isn't in the game. If a goalie is a bit off it can make a much bigger difference than if one of 5 skaters on the ice is a bit off their game. The line of being good and being bad as a goalie is so thin I wouldn't question Rask if he says he isn't up for it.

Now I think Rask also lost his motivation going out there, the team wouldn't get the offense to support him and he had no support from the backup role either. I think Khudobin stepping up and making a conversation about what goaltender should go is good for Rask, as well as our recent uptick in offense, hopefully he has joined the fight for the rest of the year because he can be the difference.

 

[Seidenbergy]

And if you want to pretend like there were people in Boston who didn't acknowledge that the Islanders game was pretty much a must-win, go ahead.

There have been PLENTY of posts here calling pretty much every game a must-win for the past 4-6 weeks. Doesn't make them right, or very good at math.

 

[ON3M4N]

All I read is HE.. Nothing about anyone else saying they felt like he couldn't go.

Any of his teammates come out and comment on the situation? Did anyone ask them?

Do you really think that Bruins management is going to let their $7 million goalie not even dress without seeing how serious the injury is? I mean honestly if you think that Cassidy & Sweeney just sat there and said "oh Tuuks you don't feel well? no worries we'll bring up Zane that way you don't have to take the trip with us."

If the injury wasn't a big deal and it was Rask "tapping out" then why would Sweeney call up Zane so Rask could stay back and rest? Rask didn't make the decision on his own, Sweeney & Co we're well aware and agreed that Rask shouldn't play.

 

[NDiesel]

Not sure why people can't be irritated/skeptical of his "tap out" Saturday?

I'm not sure why people want to play an injured goalie in the biggest game of the season up until that point.

 

[LouJersey]

Do you really think that Bruins management is going to let their $7 million goalie not even dress without seeing how serious the injury is? I mean honestly if you think that Cassidy & Sweeney just sat there and said "oh Tuuks you don't feel well? no worries we'll bring up Zane that way you don't have to take the trip with us."

If the injury wasn't a big deal and it was Rask "tapping out" then why would Sweeney call up Zane so Rask could stay back and rest? Rask didn't make the decision on his own, Sweeney & Co we're well aware and agreed that Rask shouldn't play.

This isn't the 80's, coaches don't force players to play. They leave the decision up to the player in most cases (especially in something minor), unless of course you have a punctured lung, broken rib et all, but we'll never have to worry about Tuuk trying to play through something like that. They called up Zane because Tuukka didn't feel he could go. I didn't see any quotes from Butch saying "We felt it was best he sat out a game", Rask certainly did make the decision on his on. There was obviously nothing majorly wrong as he practiced 24 hours later and played on Tuesday. He wasn't sent for MRI's or anything.

 

[LouJersey]

I'm not sure why people want to play an injured goalie in the biggest game of the season up until that point.

You're right. I'd never want to play a guy who is injured and doesn't want to try to see how he felt in practice. Some players you need to shoot to keep them out of big games, and others not so much.

 

[NDiesel]

You're right. I'd never want to play a guy who is injured and doesn't want to try to see how he felt in practice. Some players you need to shoot to keep them out of big games, and others not so much.

Like I mentioned earlier, I personally believe goalie injuries are a different monster than players, I'm not going to change anyone's mind here on Rask faking injuries or not stepping up in big games as everyone seems set in their ways.

I'm not sure why he even played in the Predators game, it's a huge game seems like he should've been sick or something.

 

[LouJersey]

Like I mentioned earlier, I personally believe goalie injuries are a different monster than players, I'm not going to change anyone's mind here on Rask faking injuries or not stepping up in big games as everyone seems set in their ways.

I'm not sure why he even played in the Predators game, it's a huge game seems like he should've been sick or something.

How many goalies, the past 5 or 6 seasons have missed vital games down the stretch with one day injuries or illnesses with their teams fighting for a play-off SPOT, not seeding? From what I've seen for the past few years, I'm never going to put Tuukka and the word warrior in the same sentence. That can definitely change though.

The Olympics, the last game of last year, and the Islanders game. Are you saying it's coincidence and nothing to worry about? if so, we can agree to disagree.

 

[jgatie]

This isn't the 80's, coaches don't force players to play. They leave the decision up to the player in most cases (especially in something minor), unless of course you have a punctured lung, broken rib et all, but we'll never have to worry about Tuuk trying to play through something like that. They called up Zane because Tuukka didn't feel he could go. I didn't see any quotes from Butch saying "We felt it was best he sat out a game", Rask certainly did make the decision on his on. There was obviously nothing majorly wrong as he practiced 24 hours later and played on Tuesday. He wasn't sent for MRI's or anything.

Actually no to the bolded:

When the B’s made an emergency call-up yesterday afternoon of goalie Zane McIntyre, the Rask haters assumed that he was going to miss another critical game. In fact, as coach Bruce Cassidy explained postgame, the move was because Khudobin was ill.

“It had nothing to do with Tuukka,†Cassidy said. “He was fine, ready to go. I know there was some speculation of what might have been going on, but there was nothing nefarious there.â€

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/bruins/2017/03/harris_tuukka_rask_answers_critics_with_solid_effort_in_bruins_win

 

[ON3M4N]

This isn't the 80's, coaches don't force players to play. They leave the decision up to the player in most cases (especially in something minor), unless of course you have a punctured lung, broken rib et all, but we'll never have to worry about Tuuk trying to play through something like that. They called up Zane because Tuukka didn't feel he could go. I didn't see any quotes from Butch saying "We felt it was best he sat out a game", Rask certainly did make the decision on his on. There was obviously nothing majorly wrong as he practiced 24 hours later and played on Tuesday. He wasn't sent for MRI's or anything.

There is no point in continuing with you. You clearly don't like Rask, so we'll just end this now.

 

[LouJersey]

Actually no to the bolded:



http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/bruins/2017/03/harris_tuukka_rask_answers_critics_with_solid_effort_in_bruins_win

i was talking about the Islanders game. I didn't even hear that one.

 

[LouJersey]

There is no point in continuing with you. You clearly don't like Rask, so we'll just end this now.

Can you not be critical of someone yet still like them?

 

[EverettMike]

Can you not be critical of someone yet still like them?

You've been a big Rask supporter for years. Means you can't ever criticize him.

 

[BruinDust]

Can you not be critical of someone yet still like them?

You are not allowed to like and criticize a player at the same time on this board.

Completely forbidden.

It's the rules.

 

[Hali33]

Can you not be critical of someone yet still like them?

Pick a side, bro.

Hater or apologist, there is no in between anymore.

 

[ReggieMoto]

If you're not for him you hate him. We don't make the rules; we just have to live by them.

 

[Bruinfanatic]

I haven't been here very long,but from what I've seen you can be critical of anyone except Rask,he seems to have a cult following.Lol

 

[CDJ]

Tuukka was clearly too hurt to play, we ended up winning....so why are we even dwelling on it?

The team doctors made the right choice shutting him down, unless you have some inside information Doctor EverettMike.

It's what happens when people feel dumb by saying he tapped out of a big game when they have no idea what they are talking about. Yes that game was a big game, so are the games against significantly better teams than the islanders coming up. Kinda need some wins outta them. And we just got one.


He was not physically confident in himself to play. The team wasn't physically confident in him. He hasn't been playing well. But it's almost like people would have preferred he gone out there and allowed 6 and lose rather than win. It is HILARIOUS

 

[EverettMike]

This thread right now.

 

[Daishi]

But it's almost like people would have preferred he gone out there and allowed 6 and lose rather than win. It is HILARIOUS

That's exactly what they would've wanted. This prosecution lead by Doctor EverettMike is after Rask, no matter the cost. I'm sure they'd prefer Bruins missing the playoffs if if meant that they look better at these boards, than for example Rask pitching 7 shutouts in a row and the Bruins making it.

It was similar during the Thomas era. Guys pick a target and then go after him until the end of time. When they're proven wrong, they either shift the goalposts or shuffle off without saying a word or ever admitting how dumb they look.

 

[bp13]

There is no point in continuing with you. You clearly don't like Rask, so we'll just end this now.

I don't get these kind of responses, and those that label people "haters". If you are critical of a guy does that HAVE to mean you don't like him?

I like Rask. He's been a good goalie here for a long time. But I think the coincidental "tap-outs" are mounting, and I now question his guts. Doesn't mean I don't "like" him. I'd take him on any given night over 75% of the NHL goalies. But if I had my choice, I'd rather a guy who is better, cheaper, and more reliable when you need him. Almost certainly that guy isn't out there, but I'd be looking. At the very least I'd be wide open to moving Rask.

 

[Donnie Shulzhoffer]

That's exactly what they would've wanted. This prosecution lead by Doctor EverettMike is after Rask, no matter the cost. I'm sure they'd prefer Bruins missing the playoffs if if meant that they look better at these boards, than for example Rask pitching 7 shutouts in a row and the Bruins making it.

It was similar during the Thomas era. Guys pick a target and then go after him until the end of time. When they're proven wrong, they either shift the goalposts or shuffle off without saying a word or ever admitting how dumb they look.

Yes, that is exactly what Mike and the others want, to be right 100% at the cost of the failure of the Bruins.

Hand out the tin foil hats everyone.