Player Discussion Tuukka Rask - Part 2 (MOD # 598)

[Hali33]

I think this has been a pretty rough season for our core, they know they are in their primes right now and are used to being succesfull and new even before the season started they weren't going to be a top team in the league.
It's not easy to see your team to lose more talent than add year after year.

If you are competitive guy that's not really encouraging to witness.

Didn't see the same body language in guys like Bergeron and Marchand who looked like they were ready to carry the whole offense themselves if they had to.

Krejci is as hot/cold as he ever was. No change there.

They're all in their primes on a flawed roster. Rask is the one that looks different to me. Some of the people who are seeing are fans of Rask, like myself.

 

[DarrenBanks56]

tuukkas a pussbag.
can you imagine if tom brady missed a deciding game because of a stomach bug?

you telling me the bruins dont have zofran on hand. the stuff is magical. those with kids in daycare know this.

 

[kytem2]

tuukkas a pussbag.
can you imagine if tom brady missed a deciding game because of a stomach bug?

you telling me the bruins dont have zofran on hand. the stuff is magical. those with kids in daycare know this.

Why didn't anyone else sit out with the flu ?

Doesn't that run through a dressing room like crazy once one guy has it ?

 

[JOKER 192]

The vast majority of what the "haters" say about Rask is already completely worthless.

who are they ? I haven't seen that here.

 

[JOKER 192]

Actually, no it isn't. It's been remarked upon multiple times his reaction to a lot of the on ice events. Suggesting that he might have an attitude problem is not new around here.

Nor unfounded.

 

[Ryan77]

I'm not the biggest Rask fan, but I can't fault him at all for not playing. We don't know how sick he was. Only he knows. If he was nauseous and vomiting or had the runs, then there's no way he should have played. What would he have done? Defecate himself and take off his mask to vomit on the ice all game?

If he was somehow sick for every big game, then I could definitely understand people questioning him.

I am one who will come out and say they 100% need to deal this guy (if he's willing no trade clause and all) but to fault someone for being sick is ridiculous. I don't know the extent of his sickness but I'm guessing it's a front and back ended and as someone who just had the flu/food poising it's
Crippling.

 

[RedeyeRocketeer]

We could ask Rask to use one of his millions to buy himself a bubble to roll around in during flu season

 

[KnightofBoston]

How did Michael Jordan do with the flu in the playoffs against Houston?

It has been shown that it is possible to play in a big game with the flu. Maybe Rask's was way worse than most, but I think you may have an agenda here yourself.

The irony that your name is Dr is not lost on me.

Did Jordan have the flu or stomach virus? Rask apparently had the latter, and playing with one would be wholly different than playing with the other.

The flu can have vomiting symptoms, often times it does not. Often times it is fatigue that will hit you the hardest if you are to play a sport with th flu.

A stomach virus however, you could die due to a dangerously low amount of electrolytes. Not to mention he literally could **** his pants or puke on the ice. Had rask played yesterday, it's likely we would have lost 9-1 instead. No empty netters. The team played like **** and should have beaten a non contending team while their playoff hopes were on the line, regardless of who's in net.

You're an insightful guy but think you are missing the mark big time here

 

[Seidenbergy]

Actually, no it isn't. It's been remarked upon multiple times his reaction to a lot of the on ice events. Suggesting that he might have an attitude problem is not new around here.

Just stop. You literally only post here to pile on rask when there's blood in the water. Not once have you ever made an appearance after he stood on his head.

 

[northeastern]

Didn't Buckner teach us something about playing someone who isn't 100%? I'm hoping that Gus at 100% is better than tuukka at 60%... It's bad luck for tuukka and the team but people thinking tuukka playing would have somehow changed anything we saw yesterday are wrong. the team didn't show up. we could have had anyone in the league in that net and the bruins would have lost. This forum loves to blame every loss on the goalie but the fact this team isn't in the playoffs now is on the **** d-core and the skaters that couldn't figure out how to get up and compete in the big games. Tuukka could have done better all season but this season isnt on him.

 

[Johnmbs1962]

How many goaltenders keep looking better and putting up great numbers behind teams going into decline......how many look better with numbers improving as the team in front of them gets stronger......

They will move him because someone has to go and he'll at least be willing with a moveable contract.....and he'll miraculously bounce back as soon as there's decent defense in front of him.....this foolishness about how he wasn't really that sick is the typical pile on that occurs when people are angry and have found their trade target.....

 

[Fierce1]

I think Rask's finest moment was the Pittsburgh series in 2013. When he is at his best he is great. However now the red flags are up, several big game flops and a couple of no shows due to a mystery illness. I'm not sold on him as a number 1 going forward. Not to mention why would this team need a 7 million dollar goalie for the next 3-5 years, we are heading nowhere but to the bottom. IMHO

 

[captain stone]

If SweeNeely could have traded Rask to SJ instead of Jones, AND could have received the same return, then they screwed-up big time.

 

[neelynugs]

The irony that your name is Dr is not lost on me.

i like doctor recchi so much more.

 

[neelynugs]

If SweeNeely could have traded Rask to SJ instead of Jones, AND could have received the same return, then they screwed-up big time.

and even at 7M per year, would have to think you'd get more than a probably late 1st round pick/middling prospect for rask.

 

[CashMash]

His track record is not "great"

He was not elite this year.

He really struggled in his last 10 starts.

I have no doubt in my mind that he did NOT fake being sick.

Saying that Rask is terrible and was only good because of the D in front of him is wrong.

Saying that he has been great this year and none of the blame should go his way and it's all the D's fault is also wrong.

Rask should be an elite goalie....he is not..well, at least not this year.

How can you say that? One of the best save percentages in league history, along with great playoff stats and a Vezina. He also has olympic bronze playing with a team who should not even have medaled to begin with considering the roster they had.

I have admitted to him struggling in the early stages this year, that's on him.

He hasn't played to his potential this year, I agree with that, but he is still an elite goalie. I'm not saying the D is 100% to blame, but they certainly didn't help either.

He has posted elite numbers on every level he has played, has won awards for it, so how can you say he doesn't have a great track record?

 

[Sturm]

When I first heard about Rask missing the game I wanted the guy out of Boston. What a wuss. But if you think about, how good is he gonna be when he's out there puking on the ice and ******** himself? You can't blame a guy for getting sick, unless he's unhungover or something. Gus was brought in to be NHL quality backup. The team still should have beaten Ottawa. Down year for Rask but we've seen how good he can be. Is he woth $7,000,000? No, but its not like the team has any other option. Give him a mediocre middle of the road NHL defense and he'll be fine.

 

[CDJ]

How can you say that? One of the best save percentages in league history, along with great playoff stats and a Vezina. He also has olympic bronze playing with a team who should not even have medaled to begin with considering the roster they had.

I have admitted to him struggling in the early stages this year, that's on him.

He hasn't played to his potential this year, I agree with that, but he is still an elite goalie. I'm not saying the D is 100% to blame, but they certainly didn't help either.

He has posted elite numbers on every level he has played, has won awards for it, so how can you say he doesn't have a great track record?

Couldn't have said it better myself, good post.

 

[finchster]

I am not for or against trading Rask, but you have to judge where this team really is. If you think we can get back to the top of the NHL soon, keep him. However, he will be 30 next season and maybe not young enough to be part of the 'new core'. If the Bruins are unable to get a good youngish defencemen this off-season, you might have to go in a full rebuild mode. Trading Rask would be a full blown rebuild.

 

[Sturm]

His value would be pretty low. Bruins would be selling real low on the guy. I don't believe the team needs a full blown rebuild. I love it when people say to trade him, well who are your alternatives? Who can we get on the FA market? Subban certainly isn't NHL starter ready.

 

[RussellmaniaKW]

it amazes me that people in hindsight say we should have kept Jones and traded Rask. Jones was completely unproven at the time. He would have gotten shredded behind this D and probably would have been a mental case by now.

 

[bp13]

That Dom post does make you think a little bit. If they wanted to trade him last year, you have to think after the year he had it could have intensified.

I'd have zero problem if they traded him. I've never felt he was a team-first kind of guy, and I don't think he's played like a $7 million goalie since the day he signed the deal. He's an excellent goalie, top 10 in the NHL. But not too long ago we could argue he was top 3 or even #1, and that's an absurd suggestion at this point.

The other factor, IMO, is that this team is only going to get worse. Why hang onto an expensive goalie if you can tank faster and get experience for a younger guy? Move Krejci and Rask, give a young goalie a shot, give some kids a shot and then hope to turn things around for 1-2 years from now.

 

[HiyaGeorgii]

it amazes me that people in hindsight say we should have kept Jones and traded Rask. Jones was completely unproven at the time. He would have gotten shredded behind this D and probably would have been a mental case by now.

Plus even if Sweeney wanted Jones over Rask, it would have been a tough sell dealing Lucic, Hamilton, Smith AND Rask.

 

[bp13]

it amazes me that people in hindsight say we should have kept Jones and traded Rask. Jones was completely unproven at the time. He would have gotten shredded behind this D and probably would have been a mental case by now.

Agreed he'd have gotten shredded behind this D, and that should have been the plan once they decided to ice this crappy D. We all knew the defense would stink. Why pretend otherwise and try to sneak into a low seed and get bounced early? Just for playoff gates? Suck with a purpose, get a higher pick, save some money and accelerate the rebuild. Because like it or not, the rebuild is coming. I think Sweeney even knew it himself when he made the Hamilton and Lucic deals. He knew he was starting a rebuild. He just didn't have the guts or the cache to really go full rebuild, but it's clear now he should have because they just wasted a full year.

 

[Central Scrutinizer]

How can you say that? One of the best save percentages in league history, along with great playoff stats and a Vezina. He also has olympic bronze playing with a team who should not even have medaled to begin with considering the roster they had.

I have admitted to him struggling in the early stages this year, that's on him.

He hasn't played to his potential this year, I agree with that, but he is still an elite goalie. I'm not saying the D is 100% to blame, but they certainly didn't help either.

He has posted elite numbers on every level he has played, has won awards for it, so how can you say he doesn't have a great track record?

I include the whole track.

In the past 2 seasons he has not been elite.

He was great 3&4 years ago, he was good last year, he was average this year.

He is no longer elite.