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I fought the Law and the Law lost.....I fought the Law, and the Law lost.....
Blue Jays Discussion: Turn out the lights, the season's over.
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2nd player in the last 100 years to have a cycle with multiple steals. Charlie Moore did it on October 1, 1980 while playing for Milwaukee against the then-California Angels. He was the starting catcher too.
Milwaukee Brewers at California Angels Box Score, October 1, 1980 | Baseball-Reference.com
Fun other fact: Charlie Moore played his final MLB season as a member of the Blue Jays, backing up Ernie Whitt.
Other fun other fact: The Biggios are now the second father-son duo to record cycles. Craig had his cycle in 2002. The other duo was Gary (1980) and Daryle (2004) Ward.
Now, I don't want us to get ahead of ourselves or anything, but Vlad Sr and Dante Bichette both hit for the cycle, too.
Mark Shapiro joins Tim and Sid to discuss the progress made by the Toronto Blue Jays, developing young stars, and how they will make the jump from a competitive team, to a winning team in the future.
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I guess that if Prince Fielder once hit for the cycle it's not impossible, but I'm not holding my breath on Vladdy.
He should gun for the HR cycle instead.
Edit: It wasn't Fielder. I'm not sure who I'm thinking of. Bengie Molina maybe?
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"Great Progress"
"They compete"
"Transition from competing to winning"
"Patience"
"Just get in the playoffs"
"We will look to add"
"We will be opportunistic this winter"
"Step out of comfort zone in free agency or trade for starting pitching"
Sounds very promising of where Shapiro sees the current state of the Jays. To me it sounds like Shapiro isn't going anywhere and feels the Jays are on the cusp of being a contender. I would agree with everything he said in this piece. We definitely have the right person at the helm to get us back to where the Jays should be and that is at the top of the division.
I remember Fielder hitting for a triple and it was a pretty big deal. Everyone was extremely surprised by that. Maybe that's what you're thinking of?
2.6 bWAR in 89 games.
Guy has played pretty close to an All-Star level as a rookie. But not worth a roster spot.
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Again take it from the source it comes from and with a grain of salt!!!!
Mr. Law is a has been, and the Jays getting rid of him made him that. His place in the MLB is not existent and it had to do with the Jays stunting his growth because he was useless.
He will never have anything nice to say about the Jays, their front office or prospects.
It is what it is.
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I can't remember if this was posted before (about a month old) but according to Marc Hulet of Fangraphs, the Jays ranked 4th best in the majors in terms of depth of pitching prospects: Ranking MLB Systems with Top Pitching Depth
I think many of us here understand what's in the pipeline and the upside of it all, but still, it feels good to have confirmation.
I think many of us here understand what's in the pipeline and the upside of it all, but still, it feels good to have confirmation.
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Since Roster Spot-Gate: Cavan Biggio » Game Logs » 2019 » Batting | FanGraphs Baseball
63 PAs, 17 hits, 5 2B, 2 3B, 4 HR, 15 R, 11 RBIs, 4 SB, 20.6 BB%, 46,9% Hard contact, 223 wRC+
In this timeframe, Biggio is 8th in fWAR and 2nd in wRC+ with 223, only behind Suarez with 224 IN THE LEAGUE.
Major League Leaderboards » 2019 » Batters » Dashboard | FanGraphs Baseball
Full season (minimum of 350 PAs):
Biggio has a 1.9 fWAR in 89 games and that is 116th in the league. 30 teams x 9 starters = 270. Biggio is better than the median. Of 2nd basemen he is 13th and everyone above him with the exception of 4 players has roughly 200 more PAs. I like him to be a 2-4 WAR player moving forward.
I remind you, he is a rookie. And Law STILL says he isnt worth a roster spot? A complete joke.
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Here's the final Top 100 Prospects list of the year
10. Nate Pearson
68. Jordan Groshans
Pearson moves into the top 10. If it werent for injuries Groshans could be a top 25 prospect if not higher.
10. Nate Pearson
68. Jordan Groshans
Pearson moves into the top 10. If it werent for injuries Groshans could be a top 25 prospect if not higher.
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I mentioned it right after the deadline, unless teams thought Giles needed Tommy John, not trading for Giles would be many contending team's biggest regret - it is a star backend reliever that they could have gotten at a huge discount.
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There was a time when I was in the "Keith Law doesn't hate the jays, he wouldn't hold a grudge forever" camp. With stuff like this it's like he's trying to prove to everyone that he is in fact the exact kind of guy that never lets any single thing go. He's the trainwreck you can't look away from.
Diamond Joe Quimby
A$AP Joffrey
He likely wasn't traded because he was not available at a discount. Likelihood is they were asking for full freight for a guy that had\has health questions.
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Wow, I remembered Vlad had 1 triple, didn't realize he had 2 this year. Both games he's got a single too. Too good at hitting triples not good enough at hitting homeruns, if only there was a triples derby he could compete in 
The Nemesis
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You can always count on shapiro to make a dull move.
By which I mean the Blu Jays have claimed pitcher Ryan Dull off waivers and placed Tim Mayza on the 60-day IL
By which I mean the Blu Jays have claimed pitcher Ryan Dull off waivers and placed Tim Mayza on the 60-day IL
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What for? Don't we have enough pitchers to finish the season with? Honest question.
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I imagine it's very much a "why not?" acquisition. The rosters have no limit right now, nobody needed to be sacrificed off the 40-man to make way for the acquisition, and it's not like the team can't use as many potential relievers as possible now and in the future.
Dull isn't likely high upside (he's 29 and has had good but not great seasons to date), but he did look solid prior to this year as a guy with good command and some swing-and-miss before coming apart at the seams. He has another option year left on his contract and it costs basically nothing to bring him in and let him audition or have him as a security blanket in case other relievers need to be shut down or come up hurt in the last couple weeks of the season.
Basically there's no downside, so why not roll the dice and see what happens. Best case they've found another arm to compete for next year's pen or be Buffalo depth. Worst case they're no worse off than they were yesterday.
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