Do you mean there's clearly a rift in the room now? Who is on each side and what's your evidence?
TSN: TSN1040 Vancouver: Contract talks with Gallagher have stalled and broken off
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Really? Idk about that, the room seemed pretty tight to me, and before all these acquisitions, Danault wanted to play with Tatar and Gallagher to maximize contract value. That trio seems pretty close imo
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Oh good god pls stop - let me use your line “show me the proof”?
The team played the playoffs like a “team”....the Leafs played like a “collection of individuals”.
As if Pietrangelo had a rift with the players in the room in STL.
This is purely business and a human beings livelihood, like Pacioretty, Gallagher was underpaid for what he delivered in his present contract and is simply looking to makeup for it - it’s Gallagher’s god given right to maximize salary intake just as it’s the orgs right to maximize their profits by keeping salaries as low as possible.
All part of negotiation tactics.
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I like him and I value what he brings but there's no way I give him an 8 year contract.
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One of the reasons we got all these players is so they can stay together while Suzuki & KK also get some quality linemates. It sounds like that whole line is worried they're about to become the 3rd line & lose PP time to the new guys.
le_sean
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If Gally is traded that means there’s only 4 players on the Habs roster drafted by the organization.
A 5th overall pick in 2005
A 3rd overall pick in 2017
A 3rd line defensive specialist
An undersized depth defenceman
Great stuff as per usual Trevor
A 5th overall pick in 2005
A 3rd overall pick in 2017
A 3rd line defensive specialist
An undersized depth defenceman
Great stuff as per usual Trevor
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That doesn't mean that they aren't good players. It just means that cap issues and organizational direction changed.
le_sean
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No it means the drafting sucks when you only have two impact players on your roster that were drafted by the team and they were both top 5 picks
Kinda figured this was coming after the Toffoli deal, it just makes sense now that they have money and term on two RWs with Armia as an obvious fit as the 3RW. I think they still are hoping to keep him but I'm sure the Habs are contemplating just rolling Anderson-Toffoli-Armia as their three RWs until Caufield is ready.
Don't really have a problem with paying Gallagher 7M as I think he's absolutely worth that (he's better than Kreider/JVR at 6.5M/7M for two easy UFA comparables) but I think it probably makes more sense to trade him now. Just very nervous about term for him and he'd get it somewhere and I don't think Montreal can do it now with Anderson and Toffoli as obvious top 6 RWs with term.
I think he's a 7M player for the next 3 to 4 years for sure but anything in the 5+ range I get really nervous about the long term issues with the city miles on his game. He just doesn't have the hands or the passing vision to age like Marchand and I get more of an Andrew Ladd kind of vibe in terms of an exceptionally effective player who slows down quickly in his 30s as the cumulative injuries pile up.
Don't really have a problem with paying Gallagher 7M as I think he's absolutely worth that (he's better than Kreider/JVR at 6.5M/7M for two easy UFA comparables) but I think it probably makes more sense to trade him now. Just very nervous about term for him and he'd get it somewhere and I don't think Montreal can do it now with Anderson and Toffoli as obvious top 6 RWs with term.
I think he's a 7M player for the next 3 to 4 years for sure but anything in the 5+ range I get really nervous about the long term issues with the city miles on his game. He just doesn't have the hands or the passing vision to age like Marchand and I get more of an Andrew Ladd kind of vibe in terms of an exceptionally effective player who slows down quickly in his 30s as the cumulative injuries pile up.
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What are the alternatives? Let him walk for free next offseason?
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Yea that's what it looks like to a to me also. It seems like Bergevin might be starting a completely new core around guys like KK, Suzuki, and Anderson, with guys like Romanov and hopefully Caufield and Primeau coming up. He's still keeping the team competitive for the transition years but it does seems like the days of Gally as a key core piece might be numbered.
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Re-negotiate next summer. It’s not like the team loses him for sure if they don’t sign him now.
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I want him signed at a reasonable salary and term. Barring that, he needs to go before camp for a nice return.
Plus RNH is really a center. So if Julien had him, would he:
- 1. move Suzuki to RW?
- 2. move RNH to LW?
- 3. Drop KK or Danault to 4C?
He is not a type of player built for longevity with his type of game he plays and his injuries that he has built up over the years. When he declines it's going to be quick and this team should not be caught in the headlights when it happens
To me Gallagher will sign here. Stopping negotiation for a short while is not always a bad thing. Gallagher was one of the guys that mentioned he wanted to win here. Gallagher will need to look at the situation in the NHL... 8M per on a 1y contract is Taylor Hall money .. 5.5M is Josh Anderson money .. he is somewhere in the middle.
My feeling is that he re-signs here. Armia or Byron will be traded (or Both). Weal and Kulak in the AHL. What I would really like. Doubt that it will happen is that we find a way to acquire Killorn from Tempa Bay .. I think that would complement our top 9 incredibly well.
Not really but I don't think I want to do a long term extension for him after Anderson is signed long term as well, especially now that Toffoli has some term as well. I just don't think it makes sense anymore for the Habs to give him a 7 year extension which he's earned the right to bargain for. If I had to choose between a long term extension for Gallagher or Anderson I'd rather Gallagher but the die is cast so we're now at the point where we have to think about the value given Toffoli and Anderson are both top 6 RWs with term and Caufield is on the way with Armia as a natural fit as a 3rd line RW.
So no I really don't want him traded and I'm going to hate to see it happen but I would even more hate to see him walk for nothing since I don't think the Habs are anywhere near contending so you have to think about getting value in return.
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I think term will be the sticking point. When was the last time MB signed a forward long term past the age of 32? Plekanec comes to mind, but that was only a two year extension. 8 years would take Gally to 36. I just don't see that happening.
I love Gallagher but we can’t pay for past performances. If he wants more than 6 years at 6 million it’s time to move on. There’s no chance he play this plus 6 more productive years
The deal starts next year, so actually a 7 year deal takes him to 36, 8 years to 37.If contract talks broke off, it must be quite high...if it was reasonable it be done..
Might be the term?
does BAGLLY want a 7 -8 year deal? takes him to 35-36<might be the issue
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