TSN made the game unwatchable

[Resolute]

When are you going to realize that the clowns are not the guys on the ice, but the guys in the boardroom..most notably Rene Fasel?

Right about the same time we start to see a generally consistant application of the rules. I do not disagree that the IIHF's misguided attempt at a zero-tolerance crackdown is a major problem. However, this problem is only being exacerbated by the general incompetence of the officials themselves.

If nothing else, consistancy is what everyone asks of the officials. These guys should not be bringing their own personal interpretations of the rulebooks into this tournament.

 

[Henne]

I think criticizing TSN is misguided. I didn't watch the game in question but I've seen several of their broadcasts and generally they do a fine job. Yes, upper management has made one glaring mistake (hiring Pierre McGuire,) but other than that I can't really find any other faults. Broadcasters have to talk constantly for 3 hours, in a game with 160 penalty minutes, there can't be much else to talk to about.

I for one am grateful for TSN, how many other stations are showing the WJCs despite the fact the rights are free (I think?)

However annoying Pierre may be, he doesn't make games 'unwatchable.'

 

[Zaddik]

i think it's absolutely hilarious how the majority of the people here - with a select few - are paying lip service to both Gord and Bob just because they post and read these forums.

 

[hockeyfan125]

i think it's absolutely hilarious how the majority of the people here - with a select few - are paying lip service to both Gord and Bob just because they post and read these forums.

whats so bad about that? They are both guys that most of us watch daily on TV, so I think its cool to talk to them and know that they read this stuff..

 

[Siberian]

Listen, I will say this politely and respectfully, but if you're going to come on here and use facts to back up your opinions, you better get your facts straight. There were 44 minutes in penalties assessed in the U.S.-Switzerland game last night. There were 160 penalty minutes assessed in the Canada-Norway game the night before.

As I have said on these boards before, you're entitled to any opinion you like and if I thought my posting here would curtail the expressing of opinions, I wouldn't do it. So you, sir, are free to think whatever you like. You can say Pierre is a whiner, you can say whatever you like about Gord or myself, you can say that TSN should be the The Siberian Network, I have no problem with any of that, but if you're going to come on here and mis-state facts to enhance your opinion, sorry, but I'm calling you on it.

Canada-Switzerland was the game when all the whining started. The ref handed out 42 penalty minutes so stop lying about me not using the facts straight. It is you who are not using the facts straight because if you talk about Can-Norway game and 160 penalty minutes handed out there then you should also mention that about 100 minutes were given for the fight that broke out with seconds left and the fight was caused by undisciplinary behavior of canadian players.

And the comment about The Siberian Network is just childish.

 

[Zaddik]

whats so bad about that? They are both guys that most of us watch daily on TV, so I think its cool to talk to them and know that they read this stuff..

whats wrong with that? did you read my post? because most of the views posted here are not genuine, they're only 'agreeing' with those two because they read this board. if they had not shown up, there would have been a heck of a lot of people saying how terrible TSN was.

 

[Zaddik]

Listen, I will say this politely and respectfully, but if you're going to come on here and use facts to back up your opinions, you better get your facts straight. There were 44 minutes in penalties assessed in the U.S.-Switzerland game last night. There were 160 penalty minutes assessed in the Canada-Norway game the night before.

As I have said on these boards before, you're entitled to any opinion you like and if I thought my posting here would curtail the expressing of opinions, I wouldn't do it. So you, sir, are free to think whatever you like. You can say Pierre is a whiner, you can say whatever you like about Gord or myself, you can say that TSN should be the The Siberian Network, I have no problem with any of that, but if you're going to come on here and mis-state facts to enhance your opinion, sorry, but I'm calling you on it.

hahahahaha that was funny

 

[Misos Milakos*]

The refs are beyond a disgrace, keep up the great work TSN.

 

[therealdeal]

Canada-Switzerland was the game when all the whining started. The ref handed out 42 penalty minutes so stop lying about me not using the facts straight. It is you who are not using the facts straight because if you talk about Can-Norway game and 160 penalty minutes handed out there then you should also mention that about 100 minutes were given for the fight that broke out with seconds left and the fight was caused by undisciplinary behavior of canadian players.

And the comment about The Siberian Network is just childish.

 

[Siberian]

HFboards is highly popular place for real hockey people. Lots of players with English reading skills from WJC do read these boards specially post game reports. I have seen Ovechkin browsing it last year, Slovak and Swedish players always read what people write about them, so I will not be surprised that TSN closely tracks down the opinions. 100% guaranteed that TSN will tell Mcguire to stop whining, you'll see it today.

 

[Misos Milakos*]

Hopefully TSN says nothing to Pierre, no need to tell Pierre to stop whining, just to please a bunch of whiners. Pierres whining is justified. Keep it up Pierre.

 

[Mike Krushelnyski]

Canada-Switzerland was the game when all the whining started. The ref handed out 42 penalty minutes so stop lying about me not using the facts straight. It is you who are not using the facts straight because if you talk about Can-Norway game and 160 penalty minutes handed out there then you should also mention that about 100 minutes were given for the fight that broke out with seconds left and the fight was caused by undisciplinary behavior of canadian players.

And the comment about The Siberian Network is just childish.

Buddy... did you actually watch the game? Or are you posting to feel semi-superior because you can argue on a message board? Because if you did watch the game, you'd know that the fight that broke out wasn't because of "undisciplined behaviour of canadian players", it was because a Norwegian player ran Pogge.

And regardless of the fact that 102 minutes was a direct result of the scrum, that still left 58 minutes in penalties called throughout the game. Considering that each game is only supposed to be 60 minutes long - I'd say that TSN or any other media outlet has more than enough cause to comment about the state of the reffing at this years tourney.

As someone that was at that game, they probably didn't "whine" enough about it.

 

[Siberian]

Buddy... did you actually watch the game? Or are you posting to feel semi-superior because you can argue on a message board? Because if you did watch the game, you'd know that the fight that broke out wasn't because of "undisciplined behaviour of canadian players", it was because a Norwegian player ran Pogge.

And regardless of the fact that 102 minutes was a direct result of the scrum, that still left 58 minutes in penalties called throughout the game. Considering that each game is only supposed to be 60 minutes long - I'd say that TSN or any other media outlet has more than enough cause to comment about the state of the reffing at this years tourney.

As someone that was at that game, they probably didn't "whine" enough about it.

First of all you are not my buddy.
Second would be if your team starts a 5 on 5 fight because of an opposing player running your goalie then it is undisciplined behavior. I am quite surprised that IIHF is turning blind eye on this fight. I understand that the tourney is held in Canada but everything has its limits.

Third the last comments in this thread I made was a comparison of the games Canada-Switzerland and USA-Switzerland. Apparentely the US game was very good according to a poster and then I made a comment that that game actually had more penalty minutes than Canada-Switzerland game where Mcguire whined non-stop and made the game unwatchable.

 

[Roughneck]

i've always said tsn.ca doesn't know how to do hockey well,... bias is its middle name

pro-Leafs or pro-Crosby or pro-pro-pro... a bunch of cheerleaders and whiners

TSN knows how to do hockey better than Sportsnet that's for sure, and the Score only shows minor league hockey seldomly and everybody likes to bash Cherry for whatever he says, and whines about Bob Cole and Harry Neale. Out of the three all-sports networks in Canada, TSN is the best at covering hockey (unless you want pro-pro-pro Vancouver and pro-Naslund and pro-Bertuzzi talk on Sportnet Pacific)

They might be pro-pro-pro about many things, I still like their broadcasts much better than the other alternatives (including the pro-pro-pro Flames Roger Millions commentated Sportsnet West games). I do like HNIC the most, despite the first game always being the Leafs, but they only show hockey once a week.

I don't know what other network could do the WJCs better, because Pierre McGuire is probably going off on the refs much less than Don Cherry would if CBC covered it, one could only imagine the controversy that would come out of that man's mouth (we will see on HNIC tonight anyways).

 

[hockeyfan125]

whats wrong with that? did you read my post? because most of the views posted here are not genuine, they're only 'agreeing' with those two because they read this board. if they had not shown up, there would have been a heck of a lot of people saying how terrible TSN was.

I guess so.. I really don't understand how people get so mad at them? TSN provides so much hockey coverage, and if you are that upset at the commentary, just hit the ****ing mute button. Its not very hard.

 

[therealdeal]

First of all you are not my buddy.
Second would be if your team starts a 5 on 5 fight because of an opposing player running your goalie then it is undisciplined behavior. I am quite surprised that IIHF is turning blind eye on this fight. I understand that the tourney is held in Canada but everything has its limits.

Third the last comments in this thread I made was a comparison of the games Canada-Switzerland and USA-Switzerland. Apparentely the US game was very good according to a poster and then I made a comment that that game actually had more penalty minutes than Canada-Switzerland game where Mcguire whined non-stop and made the game unwatchable.

Have you ever seen a hockey game before?

 

[Misos Milakos*]

First of all you are not my buddy.

Something tells me he didn't mean it literally.

as for the rest *Yawwwwnnn*.

 

[hockeyfan125]

(unless you want pro-pro-pro Vancouver and pro-Naslund and pro-Bertuzzi talk on Sportnet Pacific)

I still like their broadcasts much better than the other alternatives (including the pro-pro-pro Flames Roger Millions commentated Sportsnet West games).

Pierre McGuire is probably going off on the refs much less than Don Cherry would if CBC covered it

Agree on all points. Sportsnet is good for your team coverage, but all the stations are (rightfully) very biased. They just want to get the largest audience possible, so I don't blame them. TheScore is more all sports, and don't really delve into the comprehensive hockey review, instead just showing highlights.

And for the thing about Pierre, I still don't understand why people don't like him.. He is very entertaining and knows his hockey. He does go crazy at times (ie broken sticks) but that is pretty funny too. Pierre is leaps and bounds a better color man than Millen/Garrett/Healy.

 

[BeerTuzzi]

For the record, I love the job that Pierre and Gord do. Keep up the good work boys. You call it as it is.

 

[Macman]

Canada-Switzerland was the game when all the whining started. The ref handed out 42 penalty minutes so stop lying about me not using the facts straight. It is you who are not using the facts straight because if you talk about Can-Norway game and 160 penalty minutes handed out there then you should also mention that about 100 minutes were given for the fight that broke out with seconds left and the fight was caused by undisciplinary behavior of canadian players.

The IIHF has already said the officiating in this tournament has been unacceptable, so it's not just TSN or Canadian "whining." The few others who actually defended the officiating have long since given up. Why don't you too?

 

[Siberian]

The IIHF has already said the officiating in this tournament has been unacceptable, so it's not just TSN or Canadian "whining." The few others who actually defended the officiating have long since given up. Why don't you too?

Give up on what? TSN whining? I never really defended the officiating but I understand unlike other "hockey specialsits" that this is transformation period and will have its moments.

 

[Zaddik]

I guess so.. I really don't understand how people get so mad at them? TSN provides so much hockey coverage, and if you are that upset at the commentary, just hit the ****ing mute button. Its not very hard.

look i'm sorry if it sounded like i was razzing you but my comment just extended towards the comments being expressed in this thread.

it was offtopic but whatever.

 

[QcS]

Pierre is making this tournament unwatchable for me unless i hit the mute button. He's just plain AWFUL. His comments are idiot and ignorant.

Everything the opposition does it dirty and the refs suck. yes.
I still wonder what he did to get his job.

 

[Transported Upstater]

So Bob and Gord are already posting here?

I sure hope TSN gets a keyboard without caps lock if Pierre ever decides to start posting...

LOL

 

[BCCHL inactive]

Right about the same time we start to see a generally consistant application of the rules. I do not disagree that the IIHF's misguided attempt at a zero-tolerance crackdown is a major problem. However, this problem is only being exacerbated by the general incompetence of the officials themselves.

If nothing else, consistancy is what everyone asks of the officials. These guys should not be bringing their own personal interpretations of the rulebooks into this tournament.

The reason why we saw so many penalties during the first few days of this tournament is because the referees were forbidden from using their own judgment.

Watching the Canada-USA game today, the Swedish referee called his own game, and it was great. He let the players play physical and he called almost everything involving illegal use of the stick. That is the game that everybody wants to see.

The only problem I had was that Jack Johnson should have been assessed a Match Penalty, not just 5 for Elbowing + Game Misc.