TSN: Grading every teams left wing depth

[tkb81]

Yeah I see he is listed as a LW on NHL, but that logic doesn’t work with other players.. they really f***ed this list up

haha im so hockey starved i still read the entire article

 

[Lays]

Rangers have average LW depth? LMAO

Kreider
Panarin
Lafreniere
Blais
Hunt

That’s #1 in the league

Then there’s Goodrow and Kravtsov who play LW often

Someone explain to me how Bunting, Kerfoot, Engvall, and Simmonds is better than NYR’s LW depth when half of these guys aren’t even LW?

Or Palat, Sharangovich, Johnsson, Wood

Or even Tkachuk, Verhaeghe, Lomberg, and Cousins who are listed two tiers above NYR

 

[Three On Zero]

haha im so hockey starved i still read the entire article

I just scanned over it and knew it would raise some good “conversation”

 

[Szechwan]

What in fresh hell is this

 

[Captain97]

This list is cursed. How are the Rangers not tier A if not 1st. They have either a 50 goal winger or a 90 point winger on their 2nd line

 

[Golden_Jet]

Folks once again stunned that the analytics guys like Toronto, part 69

Its not "TSN." TSN has tons of personalities that regularly trash the Leafs, if you watched their free agency show it was absurd.

The problem is the nerds. It's whenever Dom or Yost ranks things, you guys get so mad.

You think it’s a good list then? It’s actually terribad.

 

[57special]

Don't seem to know what they are talking about. Boldy will likely move to LW, his natural position, now that Fiala is gone. Kaprizov, Boldy, Greenway, Duhaime - Dewar is more of a C, while all the others are wings. Anyway, that's a nice blend of scoring, skill, speed, and physicality.

Meanwhile, wouldn't LAK play Fiala on his natural spot, LW? I mean, he can play the offside, but it's not like there is too much talent on the LA LW spot to edge him out.

Overall, seems like a very stupid, lazy, and uniformed bunch of words masquerading as sports journalism.

 

[The Red Line]

What a pointless list in the first place. What are they even trying to prove here? Most wingers aren't locked into their side, and every team will have MANY players playing LW over the course of the season.

But yeah... then the rankings. And yes, lol at Toronto, they are worse than every tier 5 team except for Chicago.

 

[DJJones]

Seems like they are massively overweighting bottom 6 wingers and then rating those bottom 6 wingers in questionable ways

And how are Lucic and Dueher not dragging Calgary down horrifically. Duehers played like one game. It's Dube - Lucic in reality.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

First off, that might not even be Pittsburgh's LW depth this season if Rakell plays LW on Malkin's line.

Second, how the hell is the Pens' depth worse than Toronto's? Jake Guentzel alone puts them ahead.

 

[Golden_Jet]

First off, that might not even be Pittsburgh's LW depth this season if Rakell plays LW on Malkin's line.

Second, how the hell is the Pens' depth worse than Toronto's? Jake Guentzel alone puts them ahead.

Exactly
How is Bunting and Kerfoot, ahead of Brady Tkachuk and Alex DeBrincat. The latter 2 are better than the leafs sum of all 4.

 

[leafsfan5]

Our LW depth is ass lol, we're waiting on Knies/Robertson to graduate and make an impact

 

[SEALBound]

...Is there ANY QA/QC at TSA? Like, did more than one person get an opinion on this?

Woof.

 

[BadBruins]

What a pointless list in the first place. What are they even trying to prove here? Most wingers aren't locked into their side, and every team will have MANY players playing LW over the course of the season.

But yeah... then the rankings. And yes, lol at Toronto, they are worse than every tier 5 team except for Chicago.

Marchand has been locked into Bergeron's LW for 10+ years. Almost exclusively. There's absolutely no excuse for leaving him off the list. Only Kane, Mackinnon, Draisaitl, and McDavid have more points over the past 5 seasons.... So either A) he was forgotten/missed or for some reason, or B) they're considering him a RW for the purpose of this list. Both stink of lazy/poor journalism and give the entire thing a lack of credibility.

 

[SingnBluesOnBroadway]

Panarin-Kreider = average

 

[CanesUltimate11]

Marchand has been locked into Bergeron's LW for 10+ years. Almost exclusively. There's absolutely no excuse for leaving him off the list. Only Kane, Mackinnon, Draisaitl, and McDavid have more points over the past 5 seasons.... So either A) he was forgotten/missed or for some reason, or B) they're considering him a RW for the purpose of this list. Both stink of lazy/poor journalism and give the entire thing a lack of credibility.

Are they taking into account that he’s going to miss the first few months of the season so they don’t list him?

 

[duul]

Kane
Hyman
RNH
Foegele

...?

 

[BLNY]

Links like this show that data can be manipulated to support whatever theory you want. It also shows that advanced stats, in a vacuum, are about as useful as +/-.

 

[Masked]

The problem is the nerds. It's whenever Dom or Yost ranks things, you guys get so mad.

Dorks, not nerds.

Assen na yo!

 

[Breakers]

Tier 1 is very puzzling to me.

 

[MoreGore]

I must admit these confused the crap out of me. Seattle is rated as one of the best. They have Schwartz, McCann, Bjorkstrand and Donato. A solid group, but one of the best?

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

Thoughts? A couple interesting placements.

Travis Yost: Grading every NHL team's left wing depth | TSN

Starting today, we will unveil a multi-piece series grading every team’s lineup across the positional groups in tiered fashion. We will analyze the depth charts across all positions and create talent tiers for all 32 franchises. For the opener, we will start at left wing.

www.tsn.ca

It's not TERRIBLE...definitely some Canadian homerism. Also Dallas, Nashville and New Jersey do not belong in tier 2 over Detroit, Ottawa and Winnipeg. Toronto should be T3 or T4.

Seattle being in T1 is a joke. Schwartz and McCann combined for 35 goals. Bjorkstrand can score but 3 20 goal 2nd line guys that aren't great defensively as top tier? Yeesh...

 

[Guylovethebuds]

Hahahahha. Ok TSN. Bunting, Kerfoot, Engvall, Simmons is no doubt the envy of most of the NHL. You've done it again. Certainly better than Marchand, Hall, Debrusk, Foligno/Frederic according to the best minds in sports.

And better than Ehlers, Connor, Barron and Harkins in Winnipeg too!!!! ahahahahahaha. You'd think they have to be trolling at this point but these homers really believe it.

I agree, I am a big Leafs fan and our LW depth is not top 15, IMO I would say 18-21st but lets do RW and center next lol

 

[Golden_Jet]

I agree, I am a big Leafs fan and our LW depth is not top 15, IMO I would say 18-21st but lets do RW and center next lol

Going by the left wingers, Leafs C and RW will likely be on a lower tier lol.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

Folks once again stunned that the analytics guys like Toronto, part 69

Its not "TSN." TSN has tons of personalities that regularly trash the Leafs, if you watched their free agency show it was absurd.

The problem is the nerds. It's whenever Dom or Yost ranks things, you guys get so mad.

Make an argument for why Toronto has better LW depth than the Pens. Hell, he didn't even get the Pens' LW depth correct.

It's not about the "nerds" getting mad when people like Dom or Yost make rankings, it's that often their rankings are questionable at best.