Proposal: Trying my best for checking trade possibilities for Oilers.

[ManofSteel55]

I was thinking about Kevin Labanc who has a hell of a shot but just doesn't take shots enough so you're not going to see huge goal numbers unless he gets motivated to take shots somehow.

Do you think "Kevin, get open and wait for a pass from McDavid or Draisaitl" would be enough motivation?

 

[ManofSteel55]

Chuarot and Savard...

Both were perceived to be guys who can as a #2 defenseman. Edmundson is not. He is a #4 with injury concerns and awful advanced metrics.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Actually only reason i'd trade him is because we just have to many left D and its taking away fron our younger core. Edmunston, Matheson, Guhle, Harris, Wifi, Plus in a year or 2, 2 more lefties will be breathing down their throat, Hutson and Struble

Cool, that means you have more reason to deal him than we have to trade for him.

 

[34]

The Oilers signed a 31 year old Hyman to a $38.5M contact. But…

 

[ole ole]

Edmonton would be a lot more willing to give up a 1st rounder than a guy that's close to helping at the NHL level and figuring out the AHL in a hurry like Bourgault. It's not the 60's anymore, Montreal doesn't get dibs on every Francophone player in the league.

We need a good defenceman. That's not Edmundson. He's getting 60% o-zone starts and still getting his head kicked in. Bourgault would only go for someone like Chychrun.

Ya and look at all the good players we got. Bruins got Orr by signing him at 14.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Ya and look at all the good players we got. Bruins got Orr by signing him at 14.

when we didn't have a lot of good players, we traded Jordan Eberle for Ryan Strome for Ryan Spooner. But yeah, Edmundson's gonna get Bourgault+.

 

[ole ole]

Gavrikov and Nyquist, with Nyquist being retained at 50%

So, in other words:

EDM gets:
- Gavrikov (extended)
- Nyquist (retained 50%)
- 2023 2nd (roughly 36th overall) conditional on EDM making playoffs

CBJ gets
- Holloway
- Puljujarvi
- 2023 1st conditional on EDM making playoffs

CBJ gets the center they need, a change-of-scenery winger and moves their second pick up by ~10ish spots.

Edmonton gets the best LHD on the market with an extension, a smart, all-situations veteran winger and moves back a little bit in the draft instead of getting rid of their pick entirely. Neither pick gets moved if EDM is in the lottery.

Best offer on the table. Seems like a good all around trade for both teams.

when we didn't have a lot of good players, we traded Jordan Eberle for Ryan Strome for Ryan Spooner. But yeah, Edmundson's gonna get Bourgault+.

I never once said he would so why you throwing that crap at me?

 

[Captain97]

Ok, so because those teams made bad trades, we should also make bad trades.

Though it is Holland I am talking about, so maybe you are on to something.

Dude your telling me Holland won't overpay for a tough veteran presence? He can even justify it with the two trades I listed.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

Do you think "Kevin, get open and wait for a pass from McDavid or Draisaitl" would be enough motivation?

No. He’s pretty passive.

 

[Dust]

The problem with offering up Edmundson to the Oilers:

- Montreal played Edmonton earlier this week and Edmundson was the worst player on the ice, took 2 bad penalties to put his team down 5 on 3 and got a game misconduct. He was atrocious. If he got traded right now based on his actual play this season (not from the Stanley Cup run from 2 seasons ago), you're going to get a mid round pick at best (3rd or 4th).

Maybe he can play his way back up to be a respectable player, but right now he has the lowest value possible.

 

[ManofSteel55]

Dude your telling me Holland won't overpay for a tough veteran presence? He can even justify it with the two trades I listed.

Holland overpays for the strangest things, but I think Holland is really trying to build a team built on super speed, so unless the tough veteran precense has some wheels, I don't know if he's interested, even if it looks like guys who could make a difference. We all wanted a shut down defenseman last year too, and we got Duncan Keith over the summer, and Brett Kulak at the deadline. He likes his smooth skaters.

Do the Oilers need another winger with Kane returning soon? I thought they were fine as far as scoring forwards were concerned.

Defense wise, I feel like Shattenkirk would be an interesting target heading into the playoffs. He’s not what he used to be but offers leadership and an interesting skill set.

Yep. The Oilers need two thirds of a third line some days. And at least one middle six winger on their best day, unless our underperforming wingers sort their early season struggles out (stares directly at Yamamoto and Pulujarvi).

 

[Captain97]

Holland overpays for the strangest things, but I think Holland is really trying to build a team built on super speed, so unless the tough veteran precense has some wheels, I don't know if he's interested, even if it looks like guys who could make a difference. We all wanted a shut down defenseman last year too, and we got Duncan Keith over the summer, and Brett Kulak at the deadline. He likes his smooth skaters.

So Josh Anderson then for your middle six forward problems instead of Eddy on the Back end is what you're saying?

 

[Dust]

The Oilers signed a 31 year old Hyman to a $38.5M contact. But…

Hyman doesn't turn 31 until June of next year. Wat?

 

[ManofSteel55]

The Oilers signed a 31 year old Hyman to a $38.5M contact. But…

But...that contract is a beauty so far. So not sure what the issue is.

 

[Unbiased Fan]

Hoglander for Pulijujarvi swap?

 

[ManofSteel55]

Hoglander for Pulijujarvi swap?

I'd be okay with this I think. What would we need to include to get Schenn as well?

 

[majormajor]

This might be interesting. I'd say take the picks out, but we're probably close. Might have to retain on Gavrikov too to make the cap work, as sad as that sounds. Not on the extension obviously, just on the remainder of this year's deal.

I think Holloway might actually be worth enough to the Jackets that you could ask them to take the picks out. But keep in mind that the Jackets can get a lot for Gavrikov and Nyquist individually in separate trades, so putting them together requires a pretty steep jump in the return. It really depends on how the pro scouts evaluate those pieces. But from my perspective I'd want Holloway enough for Columbus that I would cave and take out the picks.

The Jackets have the cap space to retain on both so cap space shouldn't be an issue, though you can only retain on 3 total and they might want to use that retention spot on a pass through trade.

How is Nyquist doing nowadays? Are the wheels falling off? Mostly just curious, I'm pretty sure Holland would still take him even if he is falling apart.

Nyquist is as fast and strong as ever. Not sure about the scoring touch, it was there last Spring but gone now, but that also has a lot to do with general team dysfunction. He's a lot like Hyman where he can be first one on the puck and then has the poise and strength on the puck to just hold it for long stretches until someone like Laine (or even better, Draisaitl) can get into the play.

He had a bad shoulder injury when he was in Detroit that nagged him for years, took away his shot, and made him play softer. It was why he didn't return as much at the deadline a few years back (I think a 2nd+3rd). He finally had surgery and missed the whole of 2020-21. He came back stronger than ever and I think the break is maybe why he doesn't seem like a 33 year old.

 

[Voodoo Glow Skulls]

Bertuzzi @50%.

He'll be back in January.(broken hand from a shot)

 

[ManofSteel55]

So Josh Anderson then for your middle six forward problems instead of Eddy on the Back end is what you're saying?

You're probably right about that. The Oilers were rumoured to be interested in Anderson.

 

[GOilers88]

Safe to say Oiler fans aren't interested in trading Bouchard or a blue chipper for Edmundson. We'd rather expand the package for someone else. Let's stop proposing that and move on.

 

[ole ole]

The problem with offering up Edmundson to the Oilers:

- Montreal played Edmonton earlier this week and Edmundson was the worst player on the ice, took 2 bad penalties to put his team down 5 on 3 and got a game misconduct. He was atrocious. If he got traded right now based on his actual play this season (not from the Stanley Cup run from 2 seasons ago), you're going to get a mid round pick at best (3rd or 4th).

Maybe he can play his way back up to be a respectable player, but right now he has the lowest value possible.

Because he played a bad 9 minutes in a game. Sure Bud.

 

[Dust]

Because he played a bad 9 minutes in a game. Sure Bud.

I highlighted a bad 9 minutes (bad might be an understatement), however if you want to look at his full body of work for this season, he's the worst defender on the team. Montreal is getting caved in when he's on the ice.

 

[spaghtti]

I assumed you wanted to keep 2023 picks since it's a good draft.

And if you won't pony up assets to get a guy like Edmundson, I guess you're cool missing out on the McDrai window.

Hahaha what a take. Edmonton is not one Edmundson away from being contenders and for what Habs fans are asking I would definitely look elsewhere

 

[Kelly]

Nick Robertson has a lethal shot -- and there has been smoke that he may be on the market.

Not sure what his value would be, or what the Leafs would want in return. But I think he could be a good cheap(ish) add for the Oilers and could potentially pay huge dividends for them.

He just hasn't been able to stick with us yet, and the yo-yo'ing in and out of the lineup isn't doing him any good.

 

[TheNumber4]

Chuarot and Savard...

Chariot was an overpay that was a bad move for Florida. It’s an odd comp to use, unless your using the comp as what NOT to do as a GM.

Dunno why Savard was thrown in, did the Habs trade him?