Rumor: Trouba to Detroit (Rangers retaining)

[Run the Jewels]

Yeah trouba retained would be a big get for the wings. He played over 21 mins a night on a team where his pairing also played the hardest matchups and won the presidents trophy. Oh no, he didnt look amazing against Florida in theconference finals. He would take some serious pressure off of Seider and be by far the second best dman on the team.

He also brings some physical edge that will help draw some of these younger guys into the fight a little more

It's also been reported he was playing on a very badly injured ankle. For two seasons I think he'd be a good veteran partner to help smooth things out for Ed. It could also help ease the difficult minutes Seider is playing night in and night out. I prefer Roy but it sounds like he's going to have lots of suitors. Hopefully Yzerman has a good feel for whether Roy wants to come back to Michigan.

 

[raymond23]

Friedman is a shmuck for how he reported this

 

[better Red than Dead]

Friedman is a shmuck for how he reported this

Explain. Most people were sourcing Larry Brooks who as of his latest article feels it’s all but certain

 

[Euro Twins]

Friedman is a shmuck for how he reported this

Where did Friedman report it?

 

[Retire91]

Howe has he been recently, he is a pretty good defensive defenseman isn't he?

 

[Dotter]

The rumor that Trouba will block a trade to DRW has a lot of smoke around it.

The only way this could get done is if NY waive Trouba, which means Yzerman will be on the hook for his entire 8m.

The strategic way around this hurdle would be to trade both Copp and Holl to Rangers for NYR's 2nd round pick). That would free up 9m in Detroit. Gives DRW a 2nd round asset, and they eat Trouba's 8m. Rangers can buy out Holl and maybe they can use Copp somewhere.

That's just an example how NYR can skirt around Trouba's block.

 

[Steve Yzerlland]

The rumor that Trouba will block a trade to DRW has a lot of smoke around it.

The only way this could get done is if NY waive Trouba, which means Yzerman will be on the hook for his entire 8m.

The strategic way around this hurdle would be to trade both Copp and Holl to Rangers for their 2nd round pick (cap dump). That would free up 9m in Detroit. Gives DRW a 2nd round asset, and they eat Trouba's 8m. Rangers can buy out Holl and maybe they can use Copp somewhere.

That's just an example how NYR can skirt around Trouba's block.

Ok. Trouba f***ing sucks dude. If they waive him we just don't claim him...

 

[Dotter]

Ok. Trouba f***ing sucks dude. If they waive him we just don't claim him...

Because Trouba at 2 yrs is better than any UFA at 6+ years with massive overpayment. Especially when we can dump 2 bad contracts and acquire a 2nd rounder. It helps both the short-term-now and the future (2nd round pick and copp cap dump).

Hell, I'd rather just sell aging players and go for a more aggressive rebuild. But impatient people think making the playoffs now is important.... which it is not!

 

[Euro Twins]

Because Trouba at 2 yrs is better than any UFA at 6+ years with massive overpayment. Especially when we can dump 2 bad contracts and acquire a 2nd rounder. It helps both the short-term-now and the future (2nd round pick and copp cap dump).

Hell, I'd rather just sell aging players and go for a more aggressive rebuild. But impatient people think making the playoffs now is important.... which it is not!

Trouba at 2 years at 8m is massive overpayment though. Trouba for 2 years around 5 I'm ok with

 

[Dotter]

Trouba at 2 years at 8m is massive overpayment though. Trouba for 2 years around 5 I'm ok with

I'd pay the entire 8m for a Copp cap dump (5.6m @ 3 years), Holl cap dump (3.4m) and a free 2nd rounder.

Dump those two contracts, then Yzerman effectively gains 1m a year to spend that he otherwise wouldn't have, gets a free 2nd rounder and beefs up the blue line without giving out MASSIVE term and overpayment like he'll have to do on any aging UFA.

 

[Lazlo Hollyfeld]

I'd pay the entire 8m for a Copp cap dump (5.6m @ 3 years), Holl cap dump (3.4m) and a free 2nd rounder.

Dump those two contracts, then Yzerman effectively gains 1m a year to spend that he otherwise wouldn't have, gets a free 2nd rounder and beefs up the blue line without giving out MASSIVE term and overpayment like he'll have to do on any aging UFA.

And then who is the 3rd line center?

 

[Euro Twins]

I'd pay the entire 8m for a Copp cap dump (5.6m @ 3 years), Holl cap dump (3.4m) and a free 2nd rounder.

Dump those two contracts, then Yzerman effectively gains 1m a year to spend that he otherwise wouldn't have, gets a free 2nd rounder and beefs up the blue line without giving out MASSIVE term and overpayment like he'll have to do on any aging UFA.

And then has to replace copp.

 

[Dotter]

And then who is the 3rd line center?

What's Oskar Sundqvist up to these days? Blues will probably trade him for a small price.

Copp is garbage. Any plug will do.

Also, if Veleno can't step up, then he needs to go.

 

[GarlicbreadTB]

And then has to replace copp.

I don't outright hate Copp like some people do. I'm sure he's trying his best and all. But at this stage Kasper or Danielson could probably do his role in the team.

 

[Euro Twins]

What's Oskar Sundqvist up to these days? Blues will probably trade him for a small price.

Copp is garbage. Any plug will do.

Also, if Veleno can't step up, then he needs to go.

Honestly I'd rather give Danielson a shot at 3c if he comes out to camp like a man possessed

 

[Dotter]

Honestly I'd rather give Danielson a shot at 3c if he comes out to camp like a man possessed

There's options. Another option I'd like to explore is move Ras back to Center and fill wing with Mazur. But like I said, Veleno needs to step or he needs to be moved.

 

[Steve Yzerlland]

Honestly I'd rather give Danielson a shot at 3c if he comes out to camp like a man possessed

To beat out Copp he just needs to be a man.

 

[Euro Twins]

There's options. Another option I'd like to explore is move Ras back to Center and fill wing with Mazur. But like I said, Veleno needs to step or he needs to be moved.

I've never been big on veleno myself and I feel like he should be gone.

 

[Lazlo Hollyfeld]

What's Oskar Sundqvist up to these days? Blues will probably trade him for a small price.

Copp is garbage. Any plug will do.

Also, if Veleno can't step up, then he needs to go.

So no one then?

The Wings just lost their second best faceoff man who takes over 1,000 faceoffs a season, is a defensively responsible forward who plays over 16 minutes a game, and plays second most minutes on the PK.

Veleno or Sundqvist would be even worse than Copp trying to handle those duties. The Wings biggest problem was team defense and they just got weaker down the middle.

 

[Dotter]

So no one then?

The Wings just lost their second best faceoff man who takes over 1,000 faceoffs a season, is a defensively responsible forward who plays over 16 minutes a game, and plays second most minutes on the PK.

Veleno or Sundqvist would be even worse than Copp trying to handle those duties. The Wings biggest problem was team defense and they just got weaker down the middle.

Fine Jake Guentzel then. Anyone to get rid of Copp's salary. Copp is a 3rd line center like Walman was a top paring dman. Lol

 

[Ezekial]

I'd pay the entire 8m for a Copp cap dump (5.6m @ 3 years), Holl cap dump (3.4m) and a free 2nd rounder.

Dump those two contracts, then Yzerman effectively gains 1m a year to spend that he otherwise wouldn't have, gets a free 2nd rounder and beefs up the blue line without giving out MASSIVE term and overpayment like he'll have to do on any aging UFA.

I'm sure you would but after they buyout Holl the Rangers would be saving a whopping $1.8 million and make the move pointless.

 

[Lazlo Hollyfeld]

Fine Jake Guentzel then. Anyone to get rid of Copp's salary. Copp is a 3rd line center like Walman was a top paring dman. Lol

The Guentzel whose rights were just acquired by Tampa?

 

[Henkka]

Holl and Copp are going nowhere.

This stupid hopefest is just waste of time.

Yzerman already made his cap space for season 2024-25, moving Kostin and Walman out.

 

[Dotter]

I'm sure you would but after they buyout Holl the Rangers would be saving a whopping $1.8 million and make the move pointless.

Are you accounting for the fact Rangers need to spend cap on a center ? They have centers going to UFA; Roslovic (4m) and Wenneberg (4.5m). They need a center.

The Guentzel whose rights was just acquired by Tampa?

What term has he signed with TBL for? I missed that update!

 

[Steve Yzerlland]

Are you accounting for the fact Rangers need to spend cap on a center ? They have centers going to UFA; Roslovic (4m) and Wenneberg (4.5m). They need a center.

They can have Copp for future considerations.