Proposal: Trouba Mega Thread Part IV

[Evil Little]

There are probably 0 players that fit your bill. It's either going to come out of left field (no one expects that player was available) or Trouba will blink and sign with the Jets (and probably get traded in the next 2 years).

I think this is probably the best guess in this thread.

It's a risky walk this hardline stance. Don't know if any of you folks have worked for an employer you had bad blood with. I would guess from this thread that every Winnipeg fan owns their own business and hates those pesky employees with their own wants and needs.

Thanks so much for your concern.

I've quit jobs because I didn't want to live in that city anymore. Trouba also has the right to live in any city he likes.

He just doesn't get to play for an NHL team outside of Winnipeg unless it's on the Jets' terms. If you have an issue with that, take it up with Donald Fehr.

As far as the Jets are concerned, there are very few things--nothing?--they need as much as young, high-end defencemen. So their terms are going to be pretty insistent.

Good for them, because a massive downgrade signed for only two more years, or a bunch of pieces that are years away from contributing, if at all are not enough of an incentive to give up on trying to just convince Trouba it's in his best interest to shut up and play for the Jets.

 

[lauder73]

I think you misread, I said Nurse ++ not Nuge

I wouldn't add much to Nurse either,Trouba is the better player at the moment but his high salary demands and the fact that Nurse is cheap and exempt from the expansion are major pluses too

 

[Tasteless Beaver]

I wouldn't add much to Nurse either,Trouba is the better player at the moment but his high salary demands and the fact that Nurse is cheap and exempt from the expansion are major pluses too

Link?

 

[SubbanForsberg]

To

Jacob Trouba

To

1st Round Pick 2017
Noah Juulsen
3rd Round Pick 2018 or Sven Andrighetto or Charles Hudon

 

[mondo3]

IF the Jet's are looking for futures, that's not too bad an offer IMO, although instead of the forwards Sven or Charles, is there a different defensive prospect available?

 

[SabresSharks]

Jets' fans, a quick summary, please ...

Is Trouba's biggest beef that he can't play top-4 on the right side because of Myers and Buff?

Is he truly the best option for a right-shot d-man to play the left side, i.e. having Myers or Buff switch just isn't feasible?

Any hint of Myers being traded?

Is Morrisey a realistic replacement, just a stop-gap until Trouba is signed or traded for a natural LHD, or way too early to tell?

Is all of the above irrelevant, because he's already decided to bolt and his mind can't be changed?

Personal opinion ... sign up, Jake. You're on a young, richly talented team on the rise. You can be a big part of it. Why throw that away?

 

[Tasteless Beaver]

Jets' fans, a quick summary, please ...

Is Trouba's biggest beef that he can't play top-4 on the right side because of Myers and Buff?

Is he truly the best option for a right-shot d-man to play the left side, i.e. having Myers or Buff switch just isn't feasible?

Any hint of Myers being traded?

Is Morrisey a realistic replacement, just a stop-gap until Trouba is signed or traded for a natural LHD, or way too early to tell?

Is all of the above irrelevant, because he's already decided to bolt and his mind can't be changed?

Personal opinion ... sign up, Jake. You're on a young, richly talented team on the rise. You can be a big part of it. Why throw that away?

1 - apparently, yes
2 - apparently, yes. He was good at it, too.
3 - no, I think management really likes him. Huge defencemen with long reach is a fetish for our management, Myers/Stanley/Buff as examples.
4 - too soon to say, but he's quite promising. He's starting on the top pairing with Byfuglien tonight (ironic that Trouba's complaining about opportunity)
5 - probably. or his agent made up his mind.
6 - damn right.

 

[Curufinwe]

How are Montral fitting Trouba under the cap?

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

To

Jacob Trouba

To

1st Round Pick 2017
Noah Juulsen
3rd Round Pick 2018 or Sven Andrighetto or Charles Hudon

Just curious where Trouba fits in on the right side, When you already have both Weber and Petry set on the right side.

 

[SabresSharks]

1 - apparently, yes
2 - apparently, yes. He was good at it, too.
3 - no, I think management really likes him
4 - too soon to say, but he's quite promising. He's starting on the top pairing with Byfuglien tonight (ironic that Trouba's complaining about opportunity)
5 - probably. or his agent made up his mind.
6 - damn right.

Thanks, AE. Hope he signs.

I hate it when players, especially young players still proving themselves, think they're bigger than the sport. Yes, HFB Legal Brigade, I know it's his CBA-granted prerogative.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

To

Jacob Trouba

To

1st Round Pick 2017
Noah Juulsen
3rd Round Pick 2018 or Sven Andrighetto or Charles Hudon

And Trouba is probably seeking a deal around $5.5 million per long term. Can Montreal afford him with this deal with the cap they've.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

How are Montral fitting Trouba under the cap?

I was wondering the exact same thing, With their cap situation and this deal. I doubt Montreal can afford Trouba. Especially if he signs the Jones Ristolainen deal.

 

[CaptainChef]

Jets' fans, a quick summary, please ...

Is Trouba's biggest beef that he can't play top-4 on the right side because of Myers and Buff?

Is he truly the best option for a right-shot d-man to play the left side, i.e. having Myers or Buff switch just isn't feasible?

Any hint of Myers being traded?

Is Morrisey a realistic replacement, just a stop-gap until Trouba is signed or traded for a natural LHD, or way too early to tell?

Is all of the above irrelevant, because he's already decided to bolt and his mind can't be changed?

Personal opinion ... sign up, Jake. You're on a young, richly talented team on the rise. You can be a big part of it. Why throw that away?

Trouba may have beefs (like having to play with an anchor and getting very little PP time for most of the last two years), but this business about wanting badly to play on the right side is bogus. I know if that was all that was holding this up, Jets management would be all over trading Myers.

No he has issues that have not come out (be it not wanting to play in Wpg or Canada), wanting to get paid too much, whatever it be) buyt nobody in Wpg is buying the right-left thing as his reason for wanting a trade.

He was offered a spot with Buff as a 1-2 D-man. I'm sure management would be working hard to get better LHD for the future (perhaps Morrissey is part of the solution but we'll need other prospects to pan out). Certainly, Myers isn't that good that management wouldn't consider options there. But it seems clear that the desire to play in Wpg and perhaps in Canada is not there when it comes to Trouba.

 

[Habsawce]

Montreal would have to ship out Petry to make room for Trouba, and realistically I think they'd rather have Jeff's veteran presence. Plus, with Petry's recent injury history it might be hard to move him.

Too many moving parts. It doen't make sense with MTL.

 

[Evil Little]

Thanks, AE. Hope he signs.

I hate it when players, especially young players still proving themselves, think they're bigger than the sport. Yes, HFB Legal Brigade, I know it's his CBA-granted prerogative.

Just as it's the Jets' CBA-granted prerogative to either match any offer sheet (thus, it's not going to happen) or let the little fella sit until their needs are met first.

I truly think it's a fascinating case study because the Jets are and will be among the teams in the league most dependent on drafted players' FA restrictions and full-value asset management.

Until now players who have (publicly) asked for a trade have been begrudgingly accommodated, but now that the team with the least incentive to do so is on the clock, I wait with bated breath to see the outcome.

 

[DingDongCharlie]

I wouldn't add much to Nurse either,Trouba is the better player at the moment but his high salary demands and the fact that Nurse is cheap and exempt from the expansion are major pluses too

I would move Nurse for Trouba and add a good piece while doing it.

 

[Rebuilt]

To Oilers

Jacob Trouba

To Jets

RNH

Why Edmonton does this?

They add an dman that would finally give this team the defense to make the playoffs.

Why Winnipeg does this?

I know Jets fans would rather keep Jacob Trouba, but he doesn't want to be there, but adding RNH would give this team great depth down the middle. I could see The Jets becoming the stars of this year and be the best offensive team of the league with this trade.

thoughts?

do you this that another piece needs to be added here or is this good enough? Maybe Nurse can be added and Jets throw a top 6 winger in the deal.

No thanks. RNH is worth more to us -especially now- than Trouba is.

I am sure Jets fans feel otherwise. Close up the thread.

 

[Rebuilt]

I would move Nurse for Trouba and add a good piece while doing it.

Yes but you are a Canuck fan trying to sabotage the Oilers. No to moving Nurse nor any other core piece for Trouba.

Jets can re sign him or ship him elsewhere thanks. We have to protect Sekera Larsson and Klefbom already. We cant afford another.

 

[Rebuilt]

I think you misread, I said Nurse ++ not Nuge

We all get it. Nurse is exempt. Trouba is not. Nurse is on an ELC, Trouba is an RFA. Just forget it already. Regardless of what you think their talent levels are.

 

[Toggel]

We need defense. Left handed ones. As awesome as RNH is, we don't need forwards.

We have a nice slightly used Kris Russel, 2 assists and plus 3.

Accept quick this offer won't last forever!

 

[Zetterberg4Captain]

what the difference between trouba asking for a trade and for his preference to be as close to detroit as can be and hamonic asking for a trade to western canada?

whats the difference between trouba asking for a trade and choosing to not play in winnipeg and bogosian signing a longterm deal because he wanted to play and winnipeg and chevy turning around and trading him away?

whats makes one situation ok but not the other, who decides who are the moral police?

 

[Daximus]

Daximus

what the difference between trouba asking for a trade and for his preference to be as close to detroit as can be and hamonic asking for a trade to western canada?

whats the difference between trouba asking for a trade and choosing to not play in winnipeg and bogosian signing a longterm deal because he wanted to play and winnipeg and chevy turning around and trading him away?

whats makes one situation ok but not the other, who decides who are the moral police?

Not really sure what you're getting at here??

 

[GoJetsGo55]

what the difference between trouba asking for a trade and for his preference to be as close to detroit as can be and hamonic asking for a trade to western canada?

Hamonic's request stemmed personal family reasons. I believe most people can sympathize with that.

Troubas request came because he didn't get exactly what he wanted so he's taking his ball and going home. Also, Trouba's camp has confirmed that they have not even looked at one offer from the Jets. Doesn't seem very sporting if you ask me.

whats the difference between trouba asking for a trade and choosing to not play in winnipeg and bogosian signing a longterm deal because he wanted to play and winnipeg and chevy turning around and trading him away?

If Bogo didn't want to be traded, he had the option of a working in a no trade/movement clause.

There are systems in place to protect players that don't want to be moved. There's no system in place to protect teams from players that refuse to play.

whats makes one situation ok but not the other, who decides who are the moral police?

It's all subjective really.

I'd say that there's enough there that paints Trouba in a bad light while others may not feel the same.

 

[Weltschmerz]

If Bogo didn't want to be traded, he had the option of a working in a no trade/movement clause.

He was traded before that clause became effective.
You can't have that kind of trade protection when you are RFA.

 

[GoJetsGo55]

He was traded before that clause became effective.
You can't have that kind of trade protection when you are RFA.

Ahhhhh you're right. My bad.