Proposal: Trouba Mega-Thread Part III

[AvsGuy]

Jets fans laughably forgetting that Trouba has publicly requested a trade. No one anywhere is giving you their top two prospects for him, the OP was being courteous in suggesting such.

I'm hesitant to trade Bigras for Trouba to begin with. Compher might be a good base - his pedigree should appeal to the Jets more than it seems to in this thread, and he's a future cog for Colorado, so hardly a throw-in either. Rantanen, Jost and Zadorov are as close to untouchable as Connor, Laine and Hellebuyck are for comparisons sake.

In any case, its probably not a good fit. If I were Jets fans, I'd expect a return on Trouba similar to the return on Dougie Hamilton, if Dougie Hamilton had publicly requested a trade.

 

[gretskidoo]

2 2nd round picks, you say?

 

[Hagged]

It needs to be Rantanen+Zadorov before it's a discussion. Anything less and Jets walk.

 

[Thai jet*]

Teammates

And what happens when Trouba caves but then starts the Kyle Turris sucking it up routine? Because that's exactly how it will play out.

I'm not so sure Trouba could do that to these teammates. He has even made sure that he didn't throw Stuie under the bus like we all did. Nothing in his statements said he would not play with Stu. The best scenario for me would be to trade Myers and play Trouba with Toby. He has real good fancy stats with Toby. I'm going by what he has saiid at face value and not out to punish him because of past management screw ups. Trading rather than signing Oduya and not resigning Hainsey were complete blunders.

 

[Maukkis]

Jets fans laughably forgetting that Trouba has publicly requested a trade. No one anywhere is giving you their top two prospects for him, the OP was being courteous in suggesting such.

I'm hesitant to trade Bigras for Trouba to begin with. Compher might be a good base - his pedigree should appeal to the Jets more than it seems to in this thread, and he's a future cog for Colorado, so hardly a throw-in either. Rantanen, Jost and Zadorov are as close to untouchable as Connor, Laine and Hellebuyck are for comparisons sake.

In any case, its probably not a good fit. If I were Jets fans, I'd expect a return on Trouba similar to the return on Dougie Hamilton, if Dougie Hamilton had publicly requested a trade.

Talk about laughable, and then suggest a trade for yet another forward who hasn't proven anything. Colorado can either offer Zadorov++, or just give up.

 

[SoundwaveIsCharisma]

2 2nd round picks, you say?

Yes, that's exactly how you should look at it. With that in mind, I'd like to offer a 4th round pick for Jamie Benn (he's really only worth a 5th, I'm overpaying here), as well as a 5th for Brenden Gallagher (also a 5th rounder, but he's not as good as Benn).

 

[lomiller1]

As an honest question to Jets fans, would you prefer to lose Trouba for nothing, while he lose 4 NHL years playing overseas, or cut ties with the kid you drafted, and recoup some of your losses?

The chances of him playing anywhere but the NHL for the next 5 years are so low they are not worth considering. There is no way he’s going to forgo $25 million - $30 million in salary and play even farther from the US. The “recoup some losses part†is also wrong. You can only play so many players and the Jets have a lot of young talent at almost every position. Unless the return fills an actually need going forward, it’s not really different than losing him for nothing.

Because the Jets have so few needs going forward, the most likely outcome is Trouba signs a 5-6 year deal and gets traded if/when Chevy gets what he’s looking for. A return of a bunch of small parts in the interest of “cutting losses†just isn’t going to happen here.

 

[SoundwaveIsCharisma]

It needs to be Rantanen+Zadorov before it's a discussion. Anything less and Jets walk.

Then the Jets can walk.

 

[Avs44]

It needs to be Rantanen+Zadorov before it's a discussion. Anything less and Jets walk.

The Jets can politely take a hike with that ludicrousy.

 

[tempest2i]

Not a lot of chatter that anything is happening on the Trouba front.

He must really hate the team if he's willing to forego paychecks to make his point.

 

[Ivan13]

Why hasnt Zadorov been mentioned. He is a quality young D and NHL ready. Hes a left hand D too which Winnipeg wants. Plus hes massive and would fit their mold

Something around Zadorov ++?

Nope.

Nathan McKinnon

Get real.

I watched a lot of U of Michigan last year and I just can't believe this to be true.

1.65 PPG in the NCAA is far more impressive than 2 PPG in a freaking Junior A league

It needs to be Rantanen+Zadorov before it's a discussion. Anything less and Jets walk.

Wouldn't trade Rantanen straight up for Trouba.

Avs don't need Trouba to be stuck on their 3rd pairing.

 

[lomiller1]

Explain again how we lose "a bunch" of forwards? Each team can only lose a maximum of one player. Each team WILL lose exactly one player. The Jets will have to expose several good young players. None of which have any where near the value of Trouba or any of our top 4 D. We also have a glut of great young talent being held back from moving up. So replacing the forward we lose will be so much easier than losing Trouba (or what we can trade him for).

Further. The Jets will most likely lose a forward, and the 4 most likely candidates are currently battling to even make the roster this year. It isn’t out of the question they lose one of them to wavers in the next 2 weeks. It’s absurd to suggest they would leave Trouba unprotected just to have a little more control over which of the 4 they lose in expansion.

 

[Hagged]

Then the Jets can walk.

The Jets can politely take a hike with that ludicrousy.

Wouldn't trade Rantanen straight up for Trouba.

Avs don't need Trouba to be stuck on their 3rd pairing.

Then I guess there isn't a trade to be made.

 

[thewave]

Not a lot of chatter that anything is happening on the Trouba front.

He must really hate the team if he's willing to forego paychecks to make his point.

He is a Boohoo player. Dont want him around the leafs. First I hear he wants 56m over 8. That's crazy for what he offers. Now he just wants out. Jets fans want a premium for an OK D with declining point totals and avg mobility. Why would anyone pay top dollar for this guy? I mean I could see packaging something around Valiev / Leivo / Polak / Marincin / Lindberg / 2nd. ((You pick and choose from the pool))

Mix and match as you like but even then if he doesn't want to match or take less than Morgan... I don't know.

 

[Mark Kandy]

I watched a lot of U of Michigan last year and I just can't believe this to be true.

1.65 PPG in the NCAA is far more impressive than 2 PPG in a freaking Junior A league

What I meant is potential & value wise, I think Jost is superior. Not saying he is a greater player than Compher right now.

 

[Ivan13]

Then I guess there isn't a trade to be made.

Good.

 

[lomiller1]

If he truly was top pairing today, we wouldn't be in this mess, would we?

The stats say he’s top pairing or better and the team has already said in both publicly and in its exit meetings with him that he’d be on the left side of top pairing with Buff on the top paring.

 

[Freudian]

Dater has never called an Avs trade in the past and there have been a load of them. His rumors are just him wanting attention.

 

[thewave]

The stats say he’s top pairing or better and the team has already said in both publicly and in its exit meetings with him that he’d be on the left side of top pairing with Buff on the top paring.

I don't believe the stats. He isn't that special on his own.

 

[Guffman]

Not a lot of chatter that anything is happening on the Trouba front.

He must really hate the team if he's willing to forego paychecks to make his point.

It's a virtual certainty that he is signed by the December 1 deadline. He's only sacrificing 6-7 weeks of salary for a potential contract that could be up to eight years.

 

[Lempo]

This seems to take the given RD reason on its face value, but isn't there enough to believe that it is more of a smokescreen, and it's really more about Trouba's "brand"? Would Avs be the correct match for that?

 

[Aceboogie]

The Avs wouldn't trade Zadorov for Trouba.

LOL. I guess Sakic is a pretty terrible GM so you could be right

 

[GoldiFox]

It's a virtual certainty that he is signed by the December 1 deadline. He's only sacrificing 6-7 weeks of salary for a potential contract that could be up to eight years.

Given everything that has occurred up to this point, it seems unlikely that he would sign a long-term deal. I think a 1-2 year deal is more likely. Doubt he gets traded with Chevy appearing to be sticking to his price.

 

[Hagged]

Good.

Even better from the Jets point of view.

 

[Hunter368]

Wait, wait.....so the OP offers the Jets two "ok" unproven prospects for Trouba? And this is the kicker.....OP also expects the Jets to take salary dump back?

Wow, this is a horrible offer for the Jets, why don't you also claim you want Ehlers thrown in there. Brutal

Just wow....so bad for the Jets.