Proposal: Trouba Mega-Thread Part III

[Brock Radunske]

Didn´t we got info that Trouba didn´t wanna play in Canada at all?
If he gets traded i think he ends up in Metro...

My money is on Detroit.
I'm not sure what they'll offer but they have a need and a diserable location for Trouba

 

[Bender]

Totally have to call you out on the bolded. You seem to be writing it like True North (Jets management) should not be credited for drafting Scheifele??? What the heck? Everyone had him ranked 20's to 30's. He was a "way off the board" selection that has become one of the best young centers in the game (ranked #13 among current centers by Sportsnet recently).

We've had one top 5 pick since returning and that was actually a lottery pick (actually finished 6th). So the narrative your spinning is not true. The Jets prospects are ranked 3rd to 5th by any standard in the NHL and we'll see over the next couple of season how this plays out.

Without guys like Perrault, Frolik, Stempniak, Stafford, Myers etc... the Jets would not likely have made the '15 playoffs. Chevy brought them in.

I had him ranked 5th personally.

 

[WaveRaven]

My money is on Detroit.
I'm not sure what they'll offer but they have a need and a diserable location for Trouba

Not without Larkin. Unless they aquire assets somewhere else. They have been trying for ages.

I personally would set the bar higher for Detriot because he wants to go there see if I can extract more.

 

[Zetterberg4Captain]

My money is on Detroit.
I'm not sure what they'll offer but they have a need and a diserable location for Trouba

I think detroits best chance is with trouba only willing to sign longterm with detroit

no team, jets included, can force him to sign more than 1 year deals at arbitration rates(assume it goes there) and trouba would not look like a spoiled child if he said yep i will play and sign in winnipeg for 1 year at a time

otherwise detroit dosent really have the assets needed if the jets dont want forwards, prospects or picks

 

[Whileee]

TOR: J.Trouba, C.Stoner
ANA: JVR @50%, M.Hunwick
WPG: C.Fowler, O.Kase

Why each team does it

leafs: Get a top 4 RHD. Rielly-Zaitsev and Gardiner-Trouba just about shore up their D. They have a lot of skilled wingers coming up that can hopefully fill the hole left by JVR

Ducks: They get their top line LW and clear nearly 4M in space to enable them to sign Lindholm and Rakell. Hunwick is both an upgrade on stoner and 2M cheaper, plus has an expiring contract.

Jets: Move out a distraction and in return get a top 4 LHD, a guy that probably lines up on their top pairing. They also add an intriguing prospect to their forward group.

Jets don't need intriguing forward prospects. They are stacked with good young forwards and prospects.

 

[howkie]

I think detroits best chance is with trouba only willing to sign longterm with detroit

no team, jets included, can force him to sign more than 1 year deals at arbitration rates(assume it goes there) and trouba would not look like a spoiled child if he said yep i will play and sign in winnipeg for 1 year at a time

otherwise detroit dosent really have the assets needed if the jets dont want forwards, prospects or picks

Do he have arbitration next year if he sits this year out? I mean it must be in Jets best intresse to sign him longterm or dont sign him at all?

 

[Avalanche2133]

Colorado/Winnipeg

The ex Avs beat writer Adrian Dater keeps tweeting the past week about Trouba and the Avs. He doesn't normally keep bringing stuff like this up unless he's hearing things. A lot of us already know however that the Avs are set at RD with Barrie and Johnson unless one was willing to slide to LD. Unlikely.

But if one did switch sides then there is definitely a deal to be made. Might not be exactly what Chevy is looking for but there is good upside value.

To Colorado
D Trouba

To Winnipeg
D Bigras
F Compher

Basically Colorados top 2 prospects. I'm sure there's better deals out there to be had but if Chevy can't find that top 2 LD he wants, this isn't the worst fall back. Hooking Connor and Compher back up could be money.

Jets may need to take some salary back though to make it work. Avs are close to the cap.

 

[broc]

That is Fn terrible man.

 

[Brock Radunske]

The ex Avs beat writer Adrian Dater keeps tweeting the past week about Trouba and the Avs. He doesn't normally keep bringing stuff like this up unless he's hearing things. A lot of us already know however that the Avs are set at RD with Barrie and Johnson unless one was willing to slide to LD. Unlikely.

But if one did switch sides then there is definitely a deal to be made. Might not be exactly what Chevy is looking for but there is good upside value.

To Colorado
D Trouba

To Winnipeg
D Bigras
F Compher

Basically Colorados top 2 prospects. I'm sure there's better deals out there to be had but if Chevy can't find that top 2 LD he wants, this isn't the worst fall back. Hooking Connor and Compher back up could be money.

Jets may need to take some salary back though to make it work. Avs are close to the cap.

I'm not an expert on Avs prospects but on the surface, that seems really bad for Winnipeg...

 

[Empoleon8771]

That's not even remotely close enough for Trouba. The Avs probably don't have what the Jets would want for Trouba.

 

[broc]

And rantanen is Colorados top prospect- not either of those guys..

 

[Maukkis]

Basically your top 2 prospects, am I right? Why don't we re-visit the offer when that "basically" is dropped off and we talk Zadorov and Rantanen?

I mean, we can offer our "basically" top 2 forward prospects for Duchene. I'm sure that Roslovic and Lemieux are fine.

 

[Lonewolfe2015]

No interest in paying a king's ransom for Trouba, both in trade value and in salary. He would improve our defense in the right trade, but we're not deep enough to move the pieces Winnipeg would require. Not to mention we'd have to be sending back a contract or two to make the cap work out.

Basically your top 2 prospects, am I right? Why don't we re-visit the offer when that "basically" is dropped off and we talk Zadorov and Rantanen?

I mean, we can offer our "basically" top 2 forward prospects for Duchene. I'm sure that Roslovic and Lemieux are fine.

Let's not go there, you're only making yourself look bad.

 

[Avalanche2133]

This is just a basis if there isn't a top LD to be had out there. Avs prob still have to add like 1st rounder as well. But that's a lot of big time potential going the Jets way for a guy asking for big money and who regressed last year. Be it he was forced to play his wrong side.

 

[HockeyHead21]

That's not even remotely close enough for Trouba. The Avs probably don't have what the Jets would want for Trouba.

This and they don't. The Jets are rumored to want an equal LHD back. The Avs do not have one to give. Even if Chevy doesn't get what he wants, I hope the Avs are not interested in parting with a core player or a package of players like Rantanen or Jost to get him. Plus, he "wants" to play on the right side. He will run into the same problem with the Avs as the Jets. Johnson , Barrie, Trouba. No fit here unless it's Johnson going the other way.

 

[Avalanche2133]

Jets have been scouting the Avs lately and Compher has played all 4 preseason games. Which is a tad odd since everyone else has played 2 or 3 at the most. Just something to make you wonder..

 

[Hobby Bull]

If he truly was top pairing today, we wouldn't be in this mess, would we?

The smiley makes me think you know this, but for what it's worth, he was going to be top pairing this year, but he's decided that wasn't what he wanted.

If you're top pairing in Winnipeg, you're playing with Byfuglien. Trouba's stated belief is that Byfuglien shoots from the wrong side to play with him.

 

[strictlyrandy]

Avs don't have space on the right side as has been mentioned.

So unless the Avs move Barrie or EJ for him, I don't see it.

Wouldn't part with Bigras and Rants either fyi. Trouba is the most valuable piece but Avs lack wings, not defensive talent.

 

[Lonewolfe2015]

Jets have been scouting the Avs lately and Compher has played all 4 preseason games. Which is a tad odd since everyone else has played 2 or 3 at the most. Just something to make you wonder..

He's also a bubble player for the NHL lineup, Bednar is just giving him a chance to show him something to stick at the start of the year. Looks like a bit of AHL seasoning would be ideal for Compher so he can grow a professional offensive game.

Jets and Avs only match up if the Avs are moving on one of Zads/Bigras (having watched both the last year I firmly believe their potential is nearly equal for different reasons) along with one of Rants/Jost with additional pieces to balance cap and value.

It's simply not worth it to add a 3rd top 4 RHD unless the Avs are moving Barrie to the left side (in which case, I'd actually be interested, Barrie should be playing on the left).

 

[HockeyHead21]

Jets have been scouting the Avs lately and Compher has played all 4 preseason games. Which is a tad odd since everyone else has played 2 or 3 at the most. Just something to make you wonder..

If the Jets are going to have to play Trouba five times a year they are going to make it worth it if they are trading within the division.

 

[Maukkis]

No interest in paying a king's ransom for Trouba, both in trade value and in salary. He would improve our defense in the right trade, but we're not deep enough to move the pieces Winnipeg would require. Not to mention we'd have to be sending back a contract or two to make the cap work out.



Let's not go there, you're only making yourself look bad.

There were names being held out. The OP claimed the duo to be top 2 prospects, when I can name three better prospects from the Avs. It's just an awful proposal: the pieces being offered don't make sense, and the value was off by a mile.

 

[Avalanche2133]

A Barrie Johnson top pairing could be awesome. As long as who moved to LD doesn't regress to badly like Trouba apparently did last year.

 

[Maukkis]

A Barrie Johnson top pairing could be awesome. As long as who moved to LD doesn't regress to badly like Trouba apparently did last year.

Because stat watching is a reliable way of judging the player's performance...

 

[HockeyHead21]

A Barrie Johnson top pairing could be awesome. As long as who moved to LD doesn't regress to badly like Trouba apparently did last year.

Your avatar indicates you like both teams. Wouldn't you know for sure if Trouba regressed or not?

 

[howkie]

Jets have been scouting the Avs lately and Compher has played all 4 preseason games. Which is a tad odd since everyone else has played 2 or 3 at the most. Just something to make you wonder..

I guess Jets have scouter Compher for the last year, since he played with Connor, so whenever Jets watched Connor they watched Compher.....

Zadorov is closer to fit the bill what Jets want, even if I´m not sure a third team for Zadorov would be good for his development...