Proposal: Trouba all encompassing trade thread

[SeaOfBlue]

I tried one with Gardiner, but the more I think about it, the less I think that's the route we'd take, nor would Winnipeg want. So I'll try the three team trade:


James Van Riemsdyk (to ANA)
Matt Hunwick (to WPG)


Cam Fowler (to WPG)


Jacob Trouba (to TOR)

Additional pieces added as needed. ANA would need to work out cap situation still (i.e. find someone who will take on Stoner), but at least they get a top 6 LW.

 

[La Bamba]

First glance: Jets get bent over, Jackets win big.

 

[Ducksgo*]

And he demanded a trade, which drops value again.

That's another thing to think about. It shows the type of character Trouba is on a damn RFA contract. I would be really reluctant on bringing him into any organization knowing the back story.

 

[Crede777]

If it were Trouba for Werenski, who adds? How much do they add?

1. Columbus doesn't have the cap space for this deal.
2. Columbus is already protecting Murray, Jones, and Savard in the expansion draft. If they brought on Trouba, they'd have to expose Savard and lose him for nothing.

Not interested.

 

[ujju2]

NO from the Oilers. Letestu on the 3rd line? He's a mediocre 4th liner at best. RNH is also an overpayment for Trouba. RNH is going nowhere.

 

[howkie]

Not sure JJ is the defender we need. Already have buff and Myers roaming around and JJ is not knowns for his quality d-play...

 

[Ducksgo*]

I tried one with Gardiner, but the more I think about it, the less I think that's the route we'd take, nor would Winnipeg want. So I'll try the three team trade:


James Van Riemsdyk (to ANA)
Matt Hunwick (to WPG)


Cam Fowler (to WPG)


Jacob Trouba (to TOR)

Additional pieces added as needed. ANA would need to work out cap situation still (i.e. find someone who will take on Stoner), but at least they get a top 6 LW.

Once again you Leaf fans are forgetting we NEED to sign Lindholm and Rakell. We are adding an extra million in cap by adding JVR and dumping fowler. Unless you take Stoner or Bieksa back this deal doesn't work.

So to make this work: % retained on JVR or Toronto takes a cap dump back.

 

[izzy]

Pretty nice for Columbus

 

[Toggel]

I haven't seen this posted yet:

Come on down DARNELL NURSE

 

[gamer1035]

Once again you Leaf fans are forgetting we NEED to sign Lindholm and Rakell. We are adding an extra million in cap by adding JVR and dumping fowler. Unless you take Stoner or Bieksa back this deal doesn't work.

So to make this work: % retained on JVR or Toronto takes a cap dump back.

I'd do either of those things to make the deal work

 

[Maukkis]

Come on down DARNELL NURSE

Noticed the words "same calibre"?

 

[BoldNewLettuce]

Leon Draisaitl



Jacob Trouba
Adam Lowry
Jansen Harkins
top 5 protected 1st in 2017

 

[larmex99]

Come on down DARNELL NURSE

Worse by a lot does not equal same caliber. Maybe in 3 years, but not today.

 

[larmex99]

Leon Draisaitl



Jacob Trouba
Adam Lowry
Jansen Harkins
top 5 protected 1st in 2017

OK, that is funny. Good one.

 

[Ducksgo*]

I'd do either of those things to make the deal work

Well then there's a deal to be had.

Beggars can't be choosers at this point with Anaheims roster.

 

[Hunter368]

No thx from Jets.

Did you not see Chevy reported asking price? FYI this doesn't match it

 

[Hunter368]

Come on down DARNELL NURSE

Not even close

 

[hawksrule]

I don't have time to read the whole thread, so I apologize in advance if this has been discussed, but isn't Hamonic for Trouba the obvious move?

As a hawks fan I'd move Seabrook+Pokka. Not sure if that's enough, but it should be in the ballpark.

 

[SeaOfBlue]

Once again you Leaf fans are forgetting we NEED to sign Lindholm and Rakell. We are adding an extra million by adding JVR and dumping fowler. Unless you take Stoner or Bieksa back this deal doesn't work.

So to make this work: % retained on JVR or Toronto takes a cap dump back.

You are taking back an extra 250k by adding JVR (4 mill vs. 4.25) . If you want retention on JVR, you'd be including high end prospects and picks.

I know you have to resign Lindholm and Rakell. I didn't forget. I also know that this deal doesn't need to solve all of ANA's problems in one. This deal fills holes in each team's respective lineups (ANA top 6 LW, WPG top 4 LD, TOR young RD with potential) while keeping the cap situation relative equal to what it was before (technically WPG takes on an extra 5.2 mill and we free up 5.45 million, but considering we'll probably have to pay Trouba between 5-5.5 mill, it's about equal).

Now all ANA has to do is find a taker for Stoner outside of this deal. It would probably cost you fewer assets and would make the deal run a lot smoother. Considering the amount of cap dump deals that have occurred this year, it wouldn't be surprising nor that hard given ANA has some decent prospects they can probably live without in exchange for dumping him.

If Stoner has to be a part of the deal, then I'm sure we'd take him on IF we can find a different taker to take him on. But once again, that makes the deal more choppy. I should also say that this is already more than most Leafs fans want to give up value wise... And I somewhat don't blame them since we'd take on the most risk and maybe not even get the most reward.

 

[Ducksgo*]

No thx from Jets.

Did you not see Chevy reported asking price? FYI this doesn't match it

Does the 3 way trade work with Toronto? Ducks may have to make it happen soon. Every day goes by and Rakell isn't signed is one less legit player on our wing position that isn't filled on our roster.

 

[Hunter368]

I tried one with Gardiner, but the more I think about it, the less I think that's the route we'd take, nor would Winnipeg want. So I'll try the three team trade:


James Van Riemsdyk (to ANA)
Matt Hunwick (to WPG)


Cam Fowler (to WPG)


Jacob Trouba (to TOR)

Additional pieces added as needed. ANA would need to work out cap situation still (i.e. find someone who will take on Stoner), but at least they get a top 6 LW.

No interest in Fowler as a return.

 

[Ducksgo*]

No interest in Fowler as a return.

Well your fan base wanted Fowler months ago because of Trouba not signing. You wanted to do a swap of defenseman 1 for 1 with a few trickled add ins. Now you don't want him? Well you don't have much a choice now with Trouba

 

[BowDangles]

I don't have time to read the whole thread, so I apologize in advance if this has been discussed, but isn't Hamonic for Trouba the obvious move?

As a hawks fan I'd move Seabrook+Pokka. Not sure if that's enough, but it should be in the ballpark.

Hamonic is a RHD, jets want a LHD

 

[Hunter368]

Well your fan base wanted Fowler months ago because of Trouba not signing. You wanted to do a swap of defenseman 1 for 1 with a few trickled add ins. Now you don't want him? Well you don't have much a choice now with Trouba

Sorry not sure where you got that idea from, I'm on the Jets forum daily.....the general mass of Jets fans aren't high on Fowler then or now and yes we see him play lots. We have lots of choices, haven't you seen the reports of "many" GMs calling Chevy about Trouba? Suspect Fowler isn't in Chevy top 3 returns

 

[SirSamofHouseBennett]

Harmonic is a RHD, jets want a LHD

Who ?