Value of: Trevor Zegras this offseason
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- Jul 25, 2012
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You should bring that over to the Canadians boards... might end up rich
Rangers would probably need to move Shesterkin in a separate deal for what Anaheim needs. Team needs are young, potential top pair defensive RHD and scoring/offense. Shesterkin is a great goalie, but a year away from UFA and not a position of need for the Ducks. And Ducks won't want to take on the risk/extra work of flipping him after trading for him.
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Were prob pretty comfortable in net... got some good goalies in the system... dostal looks like the future.
Def no interest in moving zegras for a goalie.
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I thought that it may be something in trading Rein for Z if we pick Lavshunov (because Lindstrome and Demidov are not there). But that is looking pretty remote because there is now talk of Sennecke and Iggy.
I don't think there will be anything done. Maybe a lower level 26th and pieces for a struggling youngster that has top 6 potential stamped on his resume.
I don't think there will be anything done. Maybe a lower level 26th and pieces for a struggling youngster that has top 6 potential stamped on his resume.
The deal would be done by now if Montreal was willing to trade that pick
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I feel like Montreal wouldnt make the move until they see how the pieces start to fall.
Yeah. We have the rose glasses on. I think it’s your blind hatred of a player you don’t even watch that makes you the one with the glasses pal.
at #5 in this years draft you're easily looking at someone with 1st line or 1st pair potential, if Zegras is that type of player then why is Anaheim trading him?
Zegras doesn't have 1st line player value after the year he had, he's getting nowhere close to #5 OA in this years draft
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If I’m the Ducks, I trade him when his stock is higher. He’s not a player you win with. He’s a complimentary player. A great one? Absolutely. But not one that will show up when it matters.
At #5 this year, you're looking at a player who has bust potential, if you can get a player like Zegras then why isn't Montreal trading for him?
See it can be spun either way. Thing is, we don't know what the negotiations are like. Montreal might be saying no to #5 or Verbeek might be demanding more than the 5th, he may not even want a pick and wants a player instead.
If you look at drafts from Zegras back, there's usually about 3 players in every top 10 as good or better than Zegras. One is almost always the #1 pick (like this year). With so many question marks around players in this draft and Verbeek wanting to start improving now, he may not even be targeting the pick.
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I dunno, showed up pretty big in the WJCs.
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How do you know if Zegras won't show up when it matters ? The Ducks have been lottery-bound by Xmas for the last several years.
Alex Turcotte, Barrett Hayton, Elias Pettersson, Olli Joulevi, Noah Hanafin... the 5 #5 picks taken the year Zegras was taken and before him. How many of them would you take over Zegras? 2? Draft is a crap shoot, several of these guys being drafted in the top 10 are going to bust/disappoint. Sure, there are probably going to be 2-4 (based on average drafts) that are better, but this isn't like last year's draft where it's a loaded draft. If you keep going back in the drafts, you're probably looking at a 50/50 chance of a player as good or better.
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how many times does it need repeating, Ducks aren't actively shopping him. Teams are asking and Ducks are listening and apparently asking for a high price. easy to assume they value him highly.
also any player drafted in the top 10 would be lucky to have the career Zegras already has. some people value picks and potential way too highly lol
at #5 you can pick anyone remaining in the draft, you just can't pick the people that went in front of #5, cherry picking a bunch of names is meaningless because at #5 the team that picked could have picked any of the other studs that went after the #5 pick
basically at #5 IN A DEEP DRAFT (this is key) you get to pick from a deep pool of top prospects (so the team picking gets their pick at someone they view as an elite prospect), whereas if the Ducks are moving Zegras it means they don't think he has 1st line value anymore.. because why on earth would a team move a young 1st line player otherwise?
this is all theoretical but my main point is the Ducks either won't move him (because they really do value him highly) but if they do don't expect a return like #5 OA (because that would mean they don't)
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I love people acting like Zegras is some game changer. He’s talented absolutely, he’s a point producer but he is not what makes a team a winning team
One-dimensional, defensively challenged players don't have much value. Especially when that one dimension isn't even elite.
Top 6 potential? He has 2 60 point seasons before his 23rd birthday. More like top line center potential.
Would you trad that for the 26+?
But you get one pick... and far more players at or behind 5 are going to be worse than Zegras than better. Your percentage of players go down if you look at every player in the draft. Out of 224 players maybe 20 end up better? 1 in 11. Looking at top 10 picks (included guys that could have dropped to the pick and guys in the range of the #5 pick) on average about 3 guys are as good or better. You're not going to pick a guy ranked 30 at the #5 pick. You know Celebrini is going to be better... that leaves 1-3 players (depending on how strong you view the draft being) that'll be picked in the top 10 that will be as good or better, unless you feel this year is one of those super drafts where there are loads of impact players. Last year, I'd agree with you. The #5 pick was more valuable. This year, every player has issues and we don't know which ones will overcome those.
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