Player Discussion Trevor Zegras : Part III
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Watching Caufield light it up is also bumming me out. They used to be at the same development stage (Z was actually better) but now Cole is miles ahead of Z
anezthes
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Yeah let's trade the only guy that consistently creates offense, that'll solve all the offensive problems
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Absolutely absurd that they’re trying to turn this man into a mucker. This franchise is gonna pay for what they’ve done to this kid
I love Z but he has 3 f***ing points in 10 games. And he's a -4. This projects to be so much worse than his 60~ point seasons where he was -20 something.
Growing pains. Remember terry was like this. The coaches gave him a lot of leeway because he tries. Then the light bulb went on and the game slowed down.
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I think this is a good article about Z's year, and one part that sticks out to me is that the Killorn-Z-Cutter line has a 68.1% xG and a 67.6% shot share since they've been put together. That backs up the eye test that that line is dominating but is completely snakebitten.
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And the snake's name? Alex Killorn.
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Dr Johnny Fever
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I continue to have more respect for Z the longer he's here. It would be so easy for him to have a pissy attitude by now for how things have gone, how he's been treated and easy enough for him to say OK, fine, trade me. But he doesn't. He just digs in, tries to do what's asked of him and help the team in whatever way he can. All on top of being a real solid human being who goes out of his way for others. I don't want to lose this guy.
We really need to get this team better coaching because the talent is there and we cannot afford to lose out on what this team can be.
We really need to get this team better coaching because the talent is there and we cannot afford to lose out on what this team can be.
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I don’t think they’re completely snake bitten. I think Gauthier’s brain defaults to “shoot” within microseconds of the puck touching his stick, and he just fires shots off without taking the one extra move/step to improve his shooting angle. He’s trying to do what worked in college, and it isn’t working on NHL goalies. It’s why I want him sent down for a week or so, to get his confidence back and to learn to slow down.he took a shot last night when Zegras was completely alone at the back post for an easy tap in goal.
He shoots a LOT. I don’t see the majority of his shots and think “that was a great shot”
I agree. I also think Cronin’s preaching of just shoot more won’t do a kid like Gauthier any favours. He needs somebody to be telling him to slow down sometimes and look for other options.
Dr Johnny Fever
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I don't disagree with your analysis but I do wonder if occasionally shooting, when a pass would have worked better, is just the price you pay for a sniper who will hopefully get you 30+ goals for the next 10 years. Even the best players will, in hindsight, make a bad choice now and then.
Heaven knows, this team needs somebody who isn't afraid to shoot.
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sowcufucakky
Agreed.
However - he needs to hold shots until there’s someone in place for a rebound. Or a tip. Or a screen. Or another player around to help chase if he misses. Every shot he takes is making him grip the stick harder, and I think he never saw Zegras at the post because he’s so locked in on needing to get that first goal. He has geeat vision and passing, but he’s not using it much any more.
Dr Johnny Fever
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Oh, for sure I'd like to see somebody take his potential and add to it rather than subtract his positives in order to improve his deficiencies. But I don't think we currently have any coaches who can do that. And that worries me.
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sowcufucakky
It’s where having a team retiree around would be helpful. Getzlaf I think made Terry’s career.
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Exactly cutter G is a pure sniper doing sniper things.
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It obviously wouldn't hurt but I'm really beginning to worry that this team is a mental mess everywhere. Coaches, players, management.
I may be in the minority but I still don't see how Getz going to work with Parros is a positive career move, especially if the guy wants to be in team management. You don't get that by leaving a team to work for the bozos in the "player safety" corporate office.
Haven't there been a number of guys, though, who have gone that route? Brian Burke, Brendan Shanahan, Rob Blake - those guys all worked in the NHL corporate office and then went on to be in a front office (I'm sure there are more - those are the ones who come to mind).
I hate that Getzlaf is there because I want him to be with the Ducks. And I think there's something to the fact that his move indicates there might not be great vibes in the Ducks' front office. But I don't think this is necessarily a bad move for him if he wants a team job later.
