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The points will come… it’s not like he’s not generating chances. He’s just been a bit unlucky
Player Discussion Trevor Zegras : Part III
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darkwingduck
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I have no hockey background to prove this besides being a keyboard warrior, but I feel like the vacuum blackhole that is the ducks third line is allowing teams to zero in on our top two. While McTs line has been resilient, to me that feels like part of the reason Terry and Zegras are snakebitten.
Deuce22
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This is a development year. It shouldn't be about not having enough wingers to fill three scoring lines. It should be about developing our three (potentially great) centers. The goal in a year or two should be to run three legit scoring lines.
70sSanO
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McDonald19
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I noticed this as well last night. The Ducks got so very little from that third line. Silf has been toast for a few years now, but Jones was back to his puck-fumbling self, and Henrique looks like he's forgotten how to play hockey. The 4th line isn't good, but they're doing what they need to do - provide energy and a surprising offensive zone shift every now and again while punishing teams physically. The third line is really bad, and it's bringing the rest of the team's performance down.
70sSanO
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As long as they never have the same number of fights…Trevor Zegras 7 GP 0 G 1 A 1 Pt.
Ross Johnston 7 GP 0 G 1 A 1 Pt.
John
IMO, the shittyness of the 3rd line is direct reflection of how important Lundy is to this team's future. He's never going to put up the points like Leo or Z, but that 3rd line is a black hole without him.
As for Z - i like how he has responded to benchings and teaching moments so far, both this yr and last yr under Eakins. Big thing now for him is to realize to become a professional in this league, he should be working on holding himself accountable, and not have to wait until the coach gives him the riot act or staples him to the pine before he reverts back to a complete game.
Honestly, Gaucher is my hope for that 3rd line. I think Lundestrom is pretty bad too. I know he's still young, but Lundestrom is already a non-prospect for me. I think he'd be fine as a 4th line center with a couple of big wingers, but his lines get caved in regularly. The glimmer of hope is that he's played under Eakins his whole career and he's mostly been stapled to the slowly decaying body of zombie Silfverberg. But it's only a fool's hope.
Back to Zegras, that game last night told me a lot. He didn't score, and there were some frustrating moments when he and Terry had opportunities to create offense and weren't on the same page, so it would have been easy for him to check out or do his own thing. But he kept going hard, on both the forecheck and the backcheck, and was instrumental in that comeback. There will be moments of immaturity from him I'm sure, but if this is how he responds, we can live with that. And I expect they'll be less frequent as he ages.
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Quack Shot
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We need to break Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce up, obviously it’s been the problem for Z
That passes the eye test.
The only people that think he has been bad are people watch the box scores.
He just hasn't been clicking with his linemates. Or his linemates haven't been clicking with eachother or with him either. He has 2 points in 10 games. If he had been playing the exact same but had 2-3 extra points, it wouldn't be a talking point. Except its the start of the season and we got shuffling lines so the spotlight is on his 2 points in 10 games.
I don't think he has been guilty of any major mistakes. He is hustling out there. He is definitely not floating, not looking slow, not looking lost. Its just down to using his talent and skill with other people. He isn't dominating face-offs, but his numbers are maybe creeping up.
Terry got his hat-trick last game to catch up on his stats. Zegras is one good game from righting the ship in terms of point totals. Then we can go back to talking about Minty all day.
70sSanO
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It has been a tough off season for Trevor. He ended the season as the 1C with visions of being the franchise player.
He comes back and the Ducks have been transformed with a new toy. He has little chance to become the permanent 1C, or even the 2C now. And those limited times when Carlsson sits, he’ll need to produce.
Zegras has played wing in the past, but he has bet his future on how well he performs over the next 3 years. A lot to take in for a 22 year old.
John
He comes back and the Ducks have been transformed with a new toy. He has little chance to become the permanent 1C, or even the 2C now. And those limited times when Carlsson sits, he’ll need to produce.
Zegras has played wing in the past, but he has bet his future on how well he performs over the next 3 years. A lot to take in for a 22 year old.
John
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Hockey Duckie
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Z has been playing well, but the points haven't come. With how he's playing, the points will come. It's the fact Z is involving his teammates makes the offense more dangerous. I'll take that over "puck hog" Terry version all day, everyday.
Terry's hat trick is a bit odd. Two of his goals came on the PP. The third came in OT, 3v3. Terry is still learning to relinquish the puck to others. Let's hope that this recent good play of Terry will make Terry share the puck more often instead of having the possession die on his stick.
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Stop blaming Terry. Zegras has 1 goal on 28 shots, and Terry is feeding him for a lot of those shots. Zegras skipped training camp and is having the type of offensive struggles that almost always occur when that happens. He’s got the lowest shooting percentage of any Duck who’s scored a goal. Eventually the rust will get shaken off, but that’s a him thing.
Some of the evaluations of Terry thus far are crazy. He’s been really good for the most part, one of our better forwards honestly. Swear to God I’m watching a different game.
Zegs has to find ways to produce on his own. He shouldn’t need to rely on other guys.
Zegs has to find ways to produce on his own. He shouldn’t need to rely on other guys.
I’m not blaming Terry for Zegras not producing, but I do feel there have been quite a few more plays then I’d like that die on Terrys stick due to him trying one to many moves. Overall I feel he’s been fine, and when he simplified his game he’s looked much better.
Smirnov2Chistov
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Give Zegras time, Nylander had the same issue with his contract holdout
We should grab Nylander then, and he help Zegras work through his issues, no?
AngelDuck
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Terry is a dangler and a high skilled puck possession player. It’s ugly when it’s not clicking but when he finds it…good night league
Hockey Duckie
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Some people are too hung up on production over process. Zegras' process has been good, but not fine tuned yet. All the possession stats show he's been very helpful on the ice. Also, some people are too impatient as well as extreme in reviews. Either they're flashy good or they need to be in the AHL.
70sSanO
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Because in every sport the top players produce. I’m not saying Zegras’ won’t start putting up numbers, but that is how he will be judged.
There are few Ryan Kesler types in the league who are considered to be elite players without the numbers.
John
