Player Discussion Trevor Zegras : Part III

[Leonardo87]

I don't like that. Imo, you try to get him signed longterm

I prefer long term also, but as long as he is still a RFA, and a bridge is 2 or 3 year term. So he will be. Betting on himself, but now will be really motivated the next couple of years to really prove himself. Not to say he wouldn’t work hard on a long term deal but this gives him extra motivation now If it does end up being a bridge.

 

[Leonardo87]

This is my thinking. If Zegras signs a long term deal now, would probably be 6.5 to 7 million per year, don’t see it being more than Terry.

He signs a bridge for 6.5 for 3 years, then can sign a long term contract between 8 and 9 million if he truly reaches his potential and is like a PPG player. So he is betting on himself.

Signing a long term contract now he is leaving money on the table. A good amount of money to be honest. Cap is going up and that means so will AAV’s to contracts.

 

[DaGeneral]

I still think he waves to show his value as a center.

 

[AngelDuck]

This is my thinking. If Zegras signs a long term deal now, would probably be 6.5 to 7 million per year, don’t see it being more than Terry.

He signs a bridge for 6.5 for 3 years, then can sign a long term contract between 8 and 9 million if he truly reaches his potential and is like a PPG player. So he is betting on himself.

Signing a long term contract now he is leaving money on the table. A good amount of money to be honest. Cap is going up and that means so will AAV’s to contracts.

He will be signing for significantly more than 8 million if he proves himself as a PPG center and irons out his defensive game these next 3 years. That’s the risk we’re running - it’s very likely he gets 10+M if he does that

 

[MMC]

I don't like that. Imo, you try to get him signed longterm

The fact that he hasn’t signed yet indicitates that that’s what they’ve been trying to do

 

[Leonardo87]

The fact that he hasn’t signed yet indicitates that that’s what they’ve been trying to do

I get that feeling also. They likely want to lock him up 7+ years for 7 million, similar to Terry, but Zegras is betting on himself to get an even bigger contract in a few years.

As long as he remains RFA don’t see it being the end of the world.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

I get that feeling also. They likely want to lock him up 7+ years for 7 million, similar to Terry, but Zegras is betting on himself to get an even bigger contract in a few years.

As long as he remains RFA don’t see it being the end of the world.

No way zegras goes 7+ under 8…. I think anything under 9.5 we end up winning in the contract.

Bridge just makes more sense 6.x 3…. But then your prob looking at something like 8 year 100 million on his next deal

 

[DuckDuckGetz]

I’d much prefer a long term deal but don’t think its the end of the world if we bridge.

If he earns a big paycheck then we’ll have the cap space to pay him and if he doesn’t earn it, we’ll be able to use our money on someone else.

 

[AngelDuck]

I’m more surprised that Drysdale hasn’t been signed. I don’t feel like he has much bargaining power due to the injury. 3X3 seems like an obvious contract for both sides. I do wonder if Anaheim is trying to potentially steal him on a long term bargain deal if they’re confident in his progression. Something like 6-7 years at 5 million

 

[All Mighty]

If I were Zegras, I would tell the Ducks that I would be willing to sign long term for an overpayment ($9M AAV or so), or I would take a bridge deal to build my resume and wait for the cap to increase so he can get an even bigger contract. From the Ducks' perspective, I would not want to give him that much money quite yet, so the bridge would likely be preferable. Logically speaking, the bridge always seemed to be the likeliest outcome.

 

[HanSolo]

I prefer long term also, but as long as he is still a RFA, and a bridge is 2 or 3 year term. So he will be. Betting on himself, but now will be really motivated the next couple of years to really prove himself. Not to say he wouldn’t work hard on a long term deal but this gives him extra motivation now If it does end up being a bridge.

This is what I was thinking and said on the trade board a little less concisely.

He either proves he's worth the 9.5-10m he thinks he's worth or he doesn't. Either way he'll be motivated to improve and get some real good development out of it.

 

[Leonardo87]

This is what I was thinking and said on the trade board a little less concisely.

He either proves he's worth the 9.5-10m he thinks he's worth or he doesn't. Either way he'll be motivated to improve and get some real good development out of it.

Yup. I actually like the idea of him proving himself to be worth more, and I think he is going to work hard to stay in the 1C role. Heck, we could end up having three 1C’s in 2-3 years. I have no issues then with Mac or Leo moving to wing, if he beats them out.

I wanted the long term for cap reasons, not with fear of him leaving. Btw I apologize for some Rangers fans trolling in the mains. But yeah he is betting on himself. You do the math and the potential of money he will leave on the table is a lot. Look at Hughes, just hit 99 points last season and he is a 8 million cap hit.

 

[DavidBL]

This is what I was thinking and said on the trade board a little less concisely.

He either proves he's worth the 9.5-10m he thinks he's worth or he doesn't. Either way he'll be motivated to improve and get some real good development out of it.

There is plenty of logic for it for both sides. I'm just worried about Z getting the itch to play elsewhere. There's no evidence of that but it does seem to be a trend on the ride for young star players.

 

[Leonardo87]

There is plenty of logic for it for both sides. I'm just worried about Z getting the itch to play elsewhere. There's no evidence of that but it does seem to be a trend on the ride for young star players.

If this team starts turning the ship this year, and are competitive within 2 years, should not be a concern.

 

[HanSolo]

There is plenty of logic for it for both sides. I'm just worried about Z getting the itch to play elsewhere. There's no evidence of that but it does seem to be a trend on the ride for young star players.

Yeah I mean it's a valid concern. It's just...you can't really force a player to sign a long term deal. You can pitch and hope they get antsy enough to cave on AAV, but I think it's fair to think of the positives of a bridge contract. I'd prefer term now as well, but there's benefits on the other end.

 

[ScarTroy]

Yeah I mean it's a valid concern. It's just...you can't really force a player to sign a long term deal. You can pitch and hope they get antsy enough to cave on AAV, but I think it's fair to think of the positives of a bridge contract. I'd prefer term now as well, but there's benefits on the other end.

I agree, I’d also prefer term now, but a bridge will force him to become a more complete player if he wants to get paid. If he proves himself to be a 10 mil player and we pay a couple more million in a few years, then great. At least we’d hopefully get an 8 year term at that point so we’d have him 2+ years longer than if we were to give him term now.

 

[DavidBL]

If this team starts turning the ship this year, and are competitive within 2 years, should not be a concern.

That's the hope.

 

[Leonardo87]

That's the hope.

If we don’t turn the ship and start making the playoffs by the time his next deal is up (granted he takes a 2-3 year bridge) I won’t blame him if he wants out.

 

[TheGoodShepard1]

Yup. I actually like the idea of him proving himself to be worth more, and I think he is going to work hard to stay in the 1C role. Heck, we could end up having three 1C’s in 2-3 years. I have no issues then with Mac or Leo moving to wing, if he beats them out.

I wanted the long term for cap reasons, not with fear of him leaving. Btw I apologize for some Rangers fans trolling in the mains. But yeah he is betting on himself. You do the math and the potential of money he will leave on the table is a lot. Look at Hughes, just hit 99 points last season and he is a 8 million cap hit.

That's his boy. You can't tell me Z didn't see that and say "hey. if I have that kind of year, I can get the big money off the back of it."

Of course, we should try offering him $8,000,001 per year just for the bragging rights and see if he takes it.

 

[CrazyDuck4u]

That's his boy. You can't tell me Z didn't see that and say "hey. if I have that kind of year, I can get the big money off the back of it."

Of course, we should try offering him $8,000,001 per year just for the bragging rights and see if he takes it.

Z needs the support Hughes had or he is not hitting that

 

[Dr Johnny Fever]

IMO, Drysdale on a bridge should be under $2.0 AAV.

You guys worry way too much about doomsday always striking the Ducks. If Z wants to go short term he's risking just as much as the team, that his performance will reach the level of his desired contract. A whole lot of things can go sideways over 2-3 years. Plus, shorter contracts give the team more flexibility when things don't go quite the way they are supposed to.

Can't wait for the start of the season!

 

[dracom]

at this point just sign him and drysdale, bridge deal or long term i don't really care now

 

[Kalv]

at this point just sign him and drysdale, bridge deal or long term i don't really care now

This is why Pat is playing the long game, he hopes Trevor and Jamie thinks the same

 

[AngelDuck]

IMO, Drysdale on a bridge should be under $2.0 AAV.

You guys worry way too much about doomsday always striking the Ducks. If Z wants to go short term he's risking just as much as the team, that his performance will reach the level of his desired contract. A whole lot of things can go sideways over 2-3 years. Plus, shorter contracts give the team more flexibility when things don't go quite the way they are supposed to.

Can't wait for the start of the season!

Don’t agree that Drysdale will be paid less than 2M although that’d be remarkable

2.5-3 is likely IMo

He was on a solid trajectory before his injury and was a 6th overall pick with considerable upside

 

[Leonardo87]

Thinking it will be 2 years @ 6.5 million.