Training Camp and Preseason thread 2023

[BS45]

Kreider Zibs Laffy
Panarin Chytil Wheeler
Othmann Trocheck Kakko

agree with the 9 but I would adjust the actual lines for a few reasons
1- Kakko's game is about him possessing the puck. Playing with Panarin its a simple fact he will not have the puck on his stick enough to play his game.
2- Think Panarin needs more of a shooter/ finisher on his right side
3- rather Othmann plays RW then Laffy so he can get his one timer off

Laffy - Zibanejad - Wheeler
Kreider - Chytil - Kakko
Panarin - Trochek - Othmann
Vesey/ Pitlick - Bonino - Goodrow

Lindgren - Fox
Miller - Trouba
Gustafsson - Schneider
Harpur

think the #6 & #7 spots are between Gustafsson, Harpur, Hollowell and Jones

and think Gusty will get the 6 and prefer Harpur's size for the 7

Shesky
Quick

 

[E-Train]

I think the spot to be won is Pitlicks. (Apple keeps trying to correct to Potluck)

He's a 13th forward in an ideal setting. Vesey-Bonino-Goodrow can be the 4th line if a kid makes it.

I’d like to see a kid make it in that spot but I don’t think that’ll be the case opening night.

 

[zlev]

kreider-zibanejad-kakko
panarin-chytil-lafreniere
othmann-trocheck-wheeler
cuylle-goodrow-vesey
pitlick, brodzinski

miller-fox
lindgren-trouba
jones-gustavsson
schneider

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

kreider-zibanejad-kakko
panarin-chytil-lafreniere
othmann-trocheck-wheeler
cuylle-goodrow-vesey
pitlick, brodzinski

miller-fox
lindgren-trouba
jones-gustavsson
schneider

I think Othmann is the most likely to be the next to make his NHL debut. After that, Edström. But aside from those two, I doubt we see anyone until very late into the season.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Id like it very much if Rempe could be good enough to take a regular shift because he murders people in fights.

 

[HockeyBasedNYC]

Vesey will be getting 3rd line time once Lavy sees how he plays all sides of the puck. Thats something major he has over Othmann. He just has the experience.

If hes on the 4th then say goodbye to Pitlick in the lineups

Something like zlev has is closest to what we should see, IF Othmann makes the team. But hell start in Hartford IMO.

But hes missing Bonino

 

[will1066]

Id like it very much if Rempe could be good enough to take a regular shift because he murders people in fights.

You'll give Machinehead a heart attack

 

[Shesterkybomb]

kreider-zibanejad-kakko
panarin-chytil-lafreniere
othmann-trocheck-wheeler
cuylle-goodrow-vesey
pitlick, brodzinski

miller-fox
lindgren-trouba
jones-gustavsson
schneider

My bet is that Panarin and Zib are gonna be on a line together and probably Lafreniere...then Kreider Trochek Kakko...vesey Chytil Wheeler.. goodrow with 2 of Cullye, Bonino Pitlick

 

[Levitate]

kreider-zibanejad-kakko
panarin-chytil-lafreniere
othmann-trocheck-wheeler
cuylle-goodrow-vesey
pitlick, brodzinski

miller-fox
lindgren-trouba
jones-gustavsson
schneider

I'd be down for this except schneider isn't getting benched so that gustavsson or jones can play their off side

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

You'll give Machinehead a heart attack

Well I did say good enough to take a regular shift!

 

[leetch99]

And Edström has held his own too. I was wondering if his skating would translate to the NHL level, and I know it's just pre-season but he outskated players on several occasions. I think he's doing really well in that department for a guy who's 6'7"

I thought he had a great game ! I was switching back and forth between the game and the Blue Jays /Yankee game and I missed a lot but he looked good from what I did watch . He seemed to like getting in the puck chase and never took a back seat to anyone,,,,,,a very big kid who I thought moved really good as big guys can fool you and look slow . It is early in his career and hopefully he can keep improving for us . It is hard to teach size !

 

[The Crypto Guy]

Did they have camp today? Don't see anything here posted about it.

 

[GAGLine]

Will Cuylle positioning himself as NY Rangers next man up

Will Cuylle, the 2020 second-round pick, looks like he could be the first Rangers forward prospect to get an NHL look this season.

www.lohud.com

 

[will1066]

Panarin and his playoff, lead to a first rd loss, but we also had spent the preceding 3 weeks minimizing any impact the kids could have in the playoffs.
My statement stands

I think we both want the kids to be part of the ship, and I get what you're saying -- if the kids aren't looped in, then the team is toast for another year. I agree with that. My original point was that it will be hard for the fringe kids like Othmann, Cuylle, Rempe, Jones, Robertson, Hololens, etc. to break into the lineup because of all the additional veterans now here to plug the bottom of the lineup -- at least at the beginning of the season. Need to make the distinction between them and the "established" kids-- you know who they are. According to your post, you're now considering the established kids as part of the core. Well, I hope so. Nothing up to now has indicated that they are treated like core members.

Kakko probably eats alone.

 

[RangersFan1994]

Did they have camp today? Don't see anything here posted about it.

Tomorrow back to training camp. Day off today

 

[eco's bones]

Rempe is a better player than Reaves. Change my mind. New age enforcer. He seemed like a decent skater last night and with that size and reach he's like an aircraft carrier out there. Never be more than a 4th liner or 13th forward but he could add an important element to this team long term.

Rempe's still a bit gawky looking as a skater. He gets around and it's a lot better than it was but he's still kind of an ugly skater. Edstrom is much smoother. His draft year Rempe had serious balance issues. He's kind of rectified that. I don't think a lot of people realize that to fight on the ice calls for certain short area skating skills and maintaining balance while your opponent is trying to jerk you around or off your feet while you're also trying to avoid getting really clocked is another thing.

 

[duhmetreE]

I thought he had a great game ! I was switching back and forth between the game and the Blue Jays /Yankee game and I missed a lot but he looked good from what I did watch . He seemed to like getting in the puck chase and never took a back seat to anyone,,,,,,a very big kid who I thought moved really good as big guys can fool you and look slow . It is early in his career and hopefully he can keep improving for us . It is hard to teach size !

Why are you watching the Yankees?

 

[bhamill]

This is NOT meant as a direct-comparison, or projection of what Rempe might become

But watching Rempe, at 21, take on the toughest guy in their lineup,
gave me a Troy Mallette throwback vibe

Johnston is one of a few guys who might be considered the toughest guy in the league on any given night. I scored it a draw but if I HAD to pick a winner, Rempe landed the better shots. In two years Rempe will be a terror. You look at him he just looks like a big teenager. He’s a few years from his balance and coordination catching up to his size. He will be genuinely frightening. He himself seems fearless. HE went after one of the toughest there is because Ross took liberties with Tro. And then was laughing in the box after. But it won’t just be that. Him getting his balance and coordination will make him a better player as well. He was getting in on the forecheck nicely and seems far from clueless out there. He battled well along the boards, he was far from a pylon. IMO he could end up a hybrid of Brian Boyle and Derrick Boogaard. I think he will be a solid 4th liner and maybe the best of the dying breed of enforcers. Not too shabby for a 6th rounder.

 

[bhamill]

I don't think that's true, especially if you consider Reaves from when he was 27-30 years old.

He appears to have the skating and mindset to be an effective forecehker and he knows what he has to do in order to be effective. Keep the puck low, use his size, get to the net. There is a lot t be said to find a player who has that mindset and the skating ability at 6'8.

What I'd REALLY like to see is him work with the AHL coaching staff to better understand defensive hockey and positioning. If he can turn himself in to a 10-15 point 4th liner in the NHL who can also be relied on defensively he will have a full time role somewhere. Ideally we would see him hover around 25 points this season in the AHL over 75 games or so.

Rempe is a better player than Reaves right now. I think in two years he’s better than Reaves was at any time and I think he will be just as feared. Maybe more.

 

[Paulie Walnutz]

The Rangers are in a weird spot because none of their top picks have broken out to be star players. It’s a different story if Laf already hit his potential of being a Huberdeau, and Kakko being a Hossa. And you factor in the Lisa Andersson pick and replace him with Suzuki and you’re looking at a core of Mika, Panarin, Suzuki, Laf(hitting on the Huberdeau comparison), Kakko(hitting on the Hossa comparison). That’s not even including Kreider being thrown into the mix or Krapsoft. That’s a contending team right there and we’re not even talking about Fox, Igor, Miller, Lindy.

 

[gravey9]

Realistically, the only young guy with a chance to knock anyone out is Cuylle. Rempe, who has looked good, will be in AHL refining his game.

Cuylle has the shot to knock Vesey off that 3rd line with Trocheck and Wheeler/Kakko, which would knock Pitlick out and run a Goodrow-Bonino-Vesey/Pitlick 4th line.

BUT...with Lavi's seeming liking in the past few days and in last nights game, I'm going to guess we have no lineup surprises. He seems pretty content with the Goodrow-Bonino-Pitlick look.

Kreider-Zib, Panarin-Chytil, Vesey-Trocheck seem to be the set LW-C combos, and I would almost guarantee Kakko/Laf/Wheeler will be mixed and matched among until something takes. Preferably, Wheeler 3rd line with PP mins.

IF, someone does occupy the other top 9 spot over Vesey, it will be Kane signing a Wheeler-esque bonus-laden deal. But Rangers will be much more careful with that this go around.

The conventional thinking is that Pitlick is first out of the lineup. But based on just last night, he seems like a big, speedier forward who can actually get in on the forecheck. He was the reason the forecheck was effective, his pressure was the main reason a lot of it began. I would be far more hesitant to take him out of the lineup. I get that Bonino can take draws but he really didn't seem like he had the wheels to create O zone pressure. We've learned that without a guy like Motte or Pitlick (and Pitlick is a much bigger force) the 4th line has a hard establishing zone time. But that said, i get the logic. And it's also plausible that Lavi is thinking the same thing. But I personally would rather have Pitlick in there. I think the most effective 4th lines are the ones that can keep the puck behind the other teams blue line.

 

[Kords]

Rempe almost ended a kids career by merely falling on him in a gingerly manner. Seeing him casually go after Johnston like it was just another day in the office has turned me into a real Remphead. I Have my embroiderer on standby for whenever he makes the team.

 

[will1066]

Whoever is going the make the bottom part of the lineup, Lavi is going to want versatility on the penalty kill. The top guys will also kill penalties and represent shorthanded scoring threats, but Lavi also seeks dependable role players to form the other PK pairs. If you don't have penalty-killing on the resume, it's going to put you at a disadvantage when the coach trims the camp roster.

 

[duhmetreE]

Rempe almost ended a kids career by merely falling on him in a gingerly manner. Seeing him casually go after Johnston like it was just another day in the office has turned me into a real Remphead. I Have my embroiderer on standby for whenever he makes the team.

still only 21. Can fill out even more.

He can be a big problem for opposing teams.

The fact that he has that size and can skate is guarantee 4th line duties imo.

 

[will1066]

still only 21. Can fill out even more.

He can be a big problem for opposing teams.

The fact that he has that size and can skate is guarantee 4th line duties imo.

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