That's why it's hard to pinpoint. Who knows what the hiring process is like. Thompson was always good on faceoffs and he understands leadership, which isn't worthless. We'll never know, but it is certainly a thing with NHL teams so I suspect nepotism is present in at least some form. They all make these types of hires.
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Funny enough the Thompson one I'm far less upset about
He seemed to love it in his limited time here--but he's one of the few who didn't play with Blake, isn't a Kings legend, just made friends with lots of the younger guys and is well connected around the league. I'm sure in his last few years he started realizing the writing was on the wall and started looking for opportunities. I have no problem with that.
He seemed to love it in his limited time here--but he's one of the few who didn't play with Blake, isn't a Kings legend, just made friends with lots of the younger guys and is well connected around the league. I'm sure in his last few years he started realizing the writing was on the wall and started looking for opportunities. I have no problem with that.
One guy I'd love to see them hire when he hangs them up is Gaunce. Limited NHL time but seems to have a great mind for the game.
tigermask48
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I'm partially convinced this is part of it...
It feels like self sabotage and self parody at this point.
There is no way this management group can actually believe half of what they are saying when there actions indicate the exact opposite right?
The Byfield thing, ok so they took Byfield over Player X knowing Byfield would take longer to reach his ceiling. But then they almost immediately turn around abandon the rebuild/retool to go all in. Wouldn't Player X who could step in now be the better choice if going all in was the plan?
There logic makes no sense at all if you think about it for more than 10 seconds.
Same thing with Petersen, Kaliev, Clarke, and Vilardi and others.
Edit: Forgot to add this thought earlier; the reason there aren't many players that leave the Kings and excel is because you don't get a mulligan on key development times.
A player can't break into the league twice. You can't send a guy back to college for his junior and senior season year if he flops in the AHL. The majority of these prospects we are discussing as never living up to their potential elsewhere are the way they are because they spent their formative years in the Kings development system.
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Nobody would think a late first round pick is being slow rolled by staying in Sweden for a season or two. It’s pretty typical for a Swedish player to stay in Europem especially a blueliner.
I think he will be ultimately fine but they have damaged his ceiling by not letting him develop his offensive game in Sweden. He was definitely rushed, for no good reason I can see.
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LeBrun rumblings: NHL coaches on expiring contracts, Gerard Gallant 'eager' to return and more
Also in rumblings: what Team Canada's management staff could look like if the NHL, NHLPA, IOC and IIHF reach an agreement on the Olympics.
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From Lebrun:
"McLellan has proved to be an excellent hire for a rebuilt Kings team that has ascended quicker than expected. He signed a five-year deal worth around $5 million per season in April 2019 when he was hired. My understanding is that the Kings have had extension talks with McLellan and that something should get done. Or at least that’s where it seems to be headed."
Not surprising, unfortunately. To be fair nothing is signed yet but if you're in the crowd who thinks he's on his way out you might have to start mentally preparing yourself.
All we can do is hope Blake gets fired first.LeBrun rumblings: NHL coaches on expiring contracts, Gerard Gallant 'eager' to return and more
Also in rumblings: what Team Canada's management staff could look like if the NHL, NHLPA, IOC and IIHF reach an agreement on the Olympics.
From Lebrun:
"McLellan has proved to be an excellent hire for a rebuilt Kings team that has ascended quicker than expected. He signed a five-year deal worth around $5 million per season in April 2019 when he was hired. My understanding is that the Kings have had extension talks with McLellan and that something should get done. Or at least that’s where it seems to be headed."
Not surprising, unfortunately. To be fair nothing is signed yet but if you're in the crowd who thinks he's on his way out you might have to start mentally preparing yourself.
I'm fine with the Thompson hiring. He seems like a coach in the makings. Type of player that had to give it 110% each and every game just to stay in the lineup. Guy could be instrumental in helping the young players along showing them what it'll take to improve their game. I have zero problems with that.
Lt Dan
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Well...LeBrun rumblings: NHL coaches on expiring contracts, Gerard Gallant 'eager' to return and more
Also in rumblings: what Team Canada's management staff could look like if the NHL, NHLPA, IOC and IIHF reach an agreement on the Olympics.
From Lebrun:
"McLellan has proved to be an excellent hire for a rebuilt Kings team that has ascended quicker than expected. He signed a five-year deal worth around $5 million per season in April 2019 when he was hired. My understanding is that the Kings have had extension talks with McLellan and that something should get done. Or at least that’s where it seems to be headed."
Not surprising, unfortunately. To be fair nothing is signed yet but if you're in the crowd who thinks he's on his way out you might have to start mentally preparing yourself.
I guess the saving grace is that ownership made DL fire Murray and then Sutter. so hoipefully lightning strikes again
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If Blake extends TM, then Blake will be the first of the two to ultimately get fired.
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It’s too early and unnecessary.
If he suddenly get Byfield and Clarke breaking out and they do it consistently then sure ink him around the TDL but there are too many questions right now.
If he suddenly get Byfield and Clarke breaking out and they do it consistently then sure ink him around the TDL but there are too many questions right now.
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Early and unnecessary is this management groups calling card.
Herby
How could Blake have known?
This is why I have argued for years to keep players away from the AHL as much as possible. It’s not a development league, it’s a league you send guys who have aged out of the CHL or are to good for the previous level (Europe, NCAA). The Kings have used it as a development league for teenagers, with absolutely horrific results. But they are to stubborn to ever admit they were wrong (see Emerson telling Pravda how great it was that QB got so much time there)
Bjornfot wasn’t to good to go back to Sweden
Fagemo wasn’t to good to go back to Sweden
Helenius wasn’t to good to go back to Finland
Turcotte wasn’t to good to go back to Wisconsin
Byfield never should have been there as a teenager because there is no evidence of 18 year old CHL players being successful in that league, while there are dozens of successful stories of top 5 picks junking right to the NHL.
Although to be real here, and I hate to sound like Axl, but the overwhelming sentiment on this forum was excitement about the 2020-21 Reign and having all these teenage players in the AHL. And not a single one, not a single one has yet to show it benefitted them being there. The only only one who should have been there was Kaliyev because they had no choice, other than to send him overseas.
If TMac is extended, they will get fired at the same time like Sutter and Lombardi.
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Herby, want to play devil's advocate a bit here if I can...
Wouldn't the idea that you don't maintain signing rights to a player for as long as you used to, suggest that it's better getting a player under contract, into the AHL and learning the team's system as soon as possible?
Not disagreeing with you, more genuinely curious on this philosophy and line of thinking.
I ask because I think of Thomas Hickey having to play 4 seasons in the CHL and can't help but wonder if it hampered his development because he clearly had nothing else to prove in the CHL after his D+1 season. He wasn't ready for the NHL but there was no other option available to him. If you allow players like that into the AHL does it not encourage younger players to develop quicker and create new stars, earlier?
Wouldn't the idea that you don't maintain signing rights to a player for as long as you used to, suggest that it's better getting a player under contract, into the AHL and learning the team's system as soon as possible?
Not disagreeing with you, more genuinely curious on this philosophy and line of thinking.
I ask because I think of Thomas Hickey having to play 4 seasons in the CHL and can't help but wonder if it hampered his development because he clearly had nothing else to prove in the CHL after his D+1 season. He wasn't ready for the NHL but there was no other option available to him. If you allow players like that into the AHL does it not encourage younger players to develop quicker and create new stars, earlier?
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The Fiala trade was what I was specifically thinking of first, and the trade for Dubois also falls into that category as well.
High acquisition cost. High salary cost. All for a team that doesn’t even have an identity yet, and with HUGE question marks all over.
Straight up putting the cart in front of the horse.
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LeBrun rumblings: NHL coaches on expiring contracts, Gerard Gallant 'eager' to return and more
Also in rumblings: what Team Canada's management staff could look like if the NHL, NHLPA, IOC and IIHF reach an agreement on the Olympics.
From Lebrun:
"McLellan has proved to be an excellent hire for a rebuilt Kings team that has ascended quicker than expected. He signed a five-year deal worth around $5 million per season in April 2019 when he was hired. My understanding is that the Kings have had extension talks with McLellan and that something should get done. Or at least that’s where it seems to be headed."
Not surprising, unfortunately. To be fair nothing is signed yet but if you're in the crowd who thinks he's on his way out you might have to start mentally preparing yourself.
Its just not a good idea. Much like when Kopitar got extended, I'm not against the idea, but lets see how the season plays out before we do anything that we might end up regretting.
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do coach negotiations generally go to the offseason? i don't really follow them but i feel like any extensions i can think of are done before expiration?
i don't like him but it would be tough to fire a coach if he manages to get this team out of the 1st round. maybe if they fail, AEG cleans house regardless of a todd extension? timing's right in a lot of ways
i don't like him but it would be tough to fire a coach if he manages to get this team out of the 1st round. maybe if they fail, AEG cleans house regardless of a todd extension? timing's right in a lot of ways
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What this thread is clearly saying is that we don’t have any training camp updates 
DoktorJeep
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I hope the plan was "We need to get to round 2 or we'll both be kissing our asses goodbye."
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LeBrun rumblings: NHL coaches on expiring contracts, Gerard Gallant 'eager' to return and more
Also in rumblings: what Team Canada's management staff could look like if the NHL, NHLPA, IOC and IIHF reach an agreement on the Olympics.
From Lebrun:
"McLellan has proved to be an excellent hire for a rebuilt Kings team that has ascended quicker than expected. He signed a five-year deal worth around $5 million per season in April 2019 when he was hired. My understanding is that the Kings have had extension talks with McLellan and that something should get done. Or at least that’s where it seems to be headed."
Not surprising, unfortunately. To be fair nothing is signed yet but if you're in the crowd who thinks he's on his way out you might have to start mentally preparing yourself.
Good info but I am still hopeful TMac must advance or is gone.
How accurate is Lebrun and he says its his "understanding? Backpeddle feature activated.
If Blake renews TMac it might cost him an extension or he could even get fired.
More likely TMac is the fall guys and Blake gets one more coaching mulligan before the execs need to decide whether to extend him.
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