Axl Rhoadz
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Yeah, this is always a fun exercise....we should all go back the last 20 years and identify who we 'should' have picked. yay, fun!
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Axl Rhoadz
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If that means a lifetime of NOT throwing around baseless accusations against the org, I’m good with that. But you carry on, however your accusations should be grounds for a ban around here. Disgusting.
AbsentMojo
F-ing get up and hunt! Cmon Todd!
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Loved the touch pass from Gavi to Fiala.. there was a lot to like here as you said
Raccoon Jesus
We were right there
I just hate that the roster is decided in July by age and waivers, not in camp battles.
Laferriere is evidence that there is literally nothing you can do to change the org's mind. Thomas getting a hat trick and getting waived. Turcotte getting only 3 preseason games at age 22. At least Fagemo is free now; who's next? Toby? How many top 50 picks are we gonna give up for free so we can play a journeyman AHLer or someone else that won't be on the roster next year?
Laferriere is evidence that there is literally nothing you can do to change the org's mind. Thomas getting a hat trick and getting waived. Turcotte getting only 3 preseason games at age 22. At least Fagemo is free now; who's next? Toby? How many top 50 picks are we gonna give up for free so we can play a journeyman AHLer or someone else that won't be on the roster next year?
KingsFan7824
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That's the NHL in a cap and Redden rule world. What team has an open camp for whoever does best? Every team has 1, maybe 2 spots for the worst of teams, that are "open" for competition.
You can leave a spot open because you fully expect a young guy to make the team, or do what DL did with Visnovsky(taking advantage of his non-NTC status) once they knew they were getting an NHL ready Doughty, Beyond that, what's to hate? Other than the cap itself. But that's what caps in economics do. They don't allow for the best in every situation. Same with the PA and guaranteed contracts. It doesn't allow for the best player to make a team all the time, or for a crap ass player to get sent home all the time.
Are you new to that game?
We have to wait 2 more years to observe who of this draft actually produces and and only then we step forward and say: I would have picked player X who was actually drafted #173
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bland
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Well, that was certainly a questionable training camp.
Top picks can't make the squad again. Over-achievers don't get rewarded - or can't because of cap problems they created for themselves. Line combos decided before the first practice. A quality waiver loss. Three headed veteran goalie battle where the best guy likely comes out of it in the third spot due to "respect".
Top picks can't make the squad again. Over-achievers don't get rewarded - or can't because of cap problems they created for themselves. Line combos decided before the first practice. A quality waiver loss. Three headed veteran goalie battle where the best guy likely comes out of it in the third spot due to "respect".
kingsfan28
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It's easy to look at it now, because most have time in the nhl. You can do it in any draft after that fact. But at the time none of the guys you listed were consistantly listed in the top 5. Sanderson was listed anywhere from 4-16th . You're definatley not drafting Askarov or Mercer at 2
. Laf, Byfield and Stutzle were all top 3 on almost every list.
kilowatt
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It's easy to look at it now, because most have time in the nhl. You can do it in any draft after that fact. But at the time none of the guys you listed were consistantly listed in the top 5. Sanderson was listed anywhere from 4-16th . You're definatley not drafting Askarov or Mercer at 2
For sure, I’m saying with the benefit of hindsight it’s easy to say who we and New York should have taken.
kingsfan28
Its A Kingspiracy !
Damn, I am on vacation and out of the country for 2 wks ... therefore I am temporarily unable to locate my copy and cite the evaluator's quotes from the prospect Black Book involving Kaliyev.
I will supply such when I get back...their concerns are more frequent and consistently negative than you can imagine, and very unusual in word and form.
I find it frustrating that so many (not you) have a hard time accepting that a prospect's ability to process, learn, apply and communicate will largely determine their success with coaches/GMs/etc and their ultimate success on the ice. Not only is Bedard amazingly talented, I guarantee you that he is also blessed with the ability to process, learn, apply and communicate at levels of the 99th percentile. All elite performing NHL hockey players combine the skill, mental aptitude and work ethic. And this applies at all levels as well, not just elite. Pete Rose's elite cognition and drive pushed an athlete with average skills into elite athletic performance, as just one example. (Unfortunately the reverse is by far the norm...elite physical talent sinks athletes with less than optimal cognition factors and/or motivational drive.) That one would even dispute the importance of these non-physical skill factors in overall performance is remarkable.
It is well known, I would say obvious, that cognition and motivation are hugely explanatory as to why talented athletes underperform vs become very successful.
This roster was decided in July. It was cute that they gave Laf a free trip to SLC for his good performance though. IMO it's a blessing in disguise if Rittich is claimed, forces Marco to give substantial minutes to Portillo instead of a wasted year of development.
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At 31, Rittich is right in the wheelhouse for Kings goaltender prospects. Talbot is 36 this year, Quick was 36 last year, if all goes well Rittich will emerge from our elite AHL goalie pipeline in 5 years ready to start for the Kings. Kopitar will have signed a 3 year extension for $8.5 million. Doughty will have complained to the media that Blake hasn’t traded enough picks and prospects to build a contending team. Byfield will be on the verge of a breakout after nearly scoring 10 goals the season prior (five years running). We will have suffered another first round exit at the hands of the Oilers, after McDavid scored a smooth 80 goals and 120 assists in the regular season. Todd calls it a moral victory.
Wow this post depressed me. Maybe because it’s true.
Why can’t the Kings give Thomas a shot? Or Laffy or Turcotte a shot?
Why are they so married to the Trevor Moore, Grundstrom and Lizottes of the world.
SettlementRichie10
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Because those are the players Blake signed to idiotic deals. Moore became untradeable the moment he signed that deal.
If Blake had any balls or brains at all he would’ve sold high on Roy this summer, cleared cap, and paved the way for Clarke and Spence on the right hand side.
If Blake had any balls or brains at all he would’ve sold high on Roy this summer, cleared cap, and paved the way for Clarke and Spence on the right hand side.
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I’ve been saying that since before the end of last season. Gavrikov enables them to do that and have balanced pairs. If Clarke and Spence can’t do it we have big problems anyway and now is the time to find out.
I wouldn’t deal Roy - Spence is very small, same with Anderson. I stood next to both again today at the season ticket event. So basically that would leave Doughty, Gabby, and Englund as the only big Kings D. I wouldn’t call Doughty big either.
One of the reasons Vegas beat Edmonton is their D is huge and made it tough on the skilled forwards. Hague, McNabb, Petro are all huge and physical. Even Whitecloud plays a chippy game. Theodore and Martinez aren’t small either and they aren’t scared to get involved physically either.
One of the reasons Vegas beat Edmonton is their D is huge and made it tough on the skilled forwards. Hague, McNabb, Petro are all huge and physical. Even Whitecloud plays a chippy game. Theodore and Martinez aren’t small either and they aren’t scared to get involved physically either.
Double post here.
One of the most exciting games I watched as a Kings fan was a pre season game dated 10-6-21.
This is the game that Kayilev scored a hat trick. This also the game the Kings played Turcotte, JAD, Kupari, Vilardi and no Kopitar. They also played Grunstrom and Lemieux for physicality. It was fast, physical and filled with youth.
It always make me wonder why didn’t play just pull the plug on the entire thing and go this route. Maybe Blake can’t deal Kopitar or Doughty, but why not just roll out all the prospects around them? Why sign Danault and trade for Arvidsson. Could have put Turcotte and Fagemo in instead. If Doughty didn’t like it, then trade him and his contract like San Jose did with Karlsson. Kopitar would have probably stayed.
One of the most exciting games I watched as a Kings fan was a pre season game dated 10-6-21.
This is the game that Kayilev scored a hat trick. This also the game the Kings played Turcotte, JAD, Kupari, Vilardi and no Kopitar. They also played Grunstrom and Lemieux for physicality. It was fast, physical and filled with youth.
It always make me wonder why didn’t play just pull the plug on the entire thing and go this route. Maybe Blake can’t deal Kopitar or Doughty, but why not just roll out all the prospects around them? Why sign Danault and trade for Arvidsson. Could have put Turcotte and Fagemo in instead. If Doughty didn’t like it, then trade him and his contract like San Jose did with Karlsson. Kopitar would have probably stayed.
No Name The Nameless
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Well Stutzle has shown superstar traits all over the ice. At Byfield’s best he looks like a board hound.
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