GDT: Training Camp 2023

[KingsHockey24]

Not me, I wanted Stutzle from day one.

Someone just needs to bump that thread.

 

[Brownie to Pancakes]

Weird ass projection going on here with Kaliyev lol

 

[Fishhead]

It does hurt to watch this young guy who is a poor communicator ( russian or farsi was probably his first language) Get worked over by todd/ blake and the system for being different. It always surprizes me the hypocrisy of the "new, inclusive nhl" in regards to an awkward young man while an entire organization basically gets a pass for ignoring and thereby enabling an active violent sexual predator (adios mr wertz). It seems "you CAN play" applies to all except if youre a nervous young man that communicates poorly.
I have to be careful with allowing my own youthful experiences as a young man to transfer too much of arty's experience. If i let it, it could really negatively affect me and my very long status as a fan of the kings. My morale as fan is already at an all time low with present mgmt.
I look forward to following arty's career wherever it goes. It looks pretty bleak here and as i have written in multiple other places. Arty would probably be better off being traded elsewhere. Its obvious to the most casual observer the idiot kings mgmt dont realize whst they have in this guy.
Also, thank you for so eloquently writing and expressing my own opinions about ak.

This is some of the weirdest shit I've ever read on here. Farsi?

 

[chris kontos]

This is some of the weirdest shit I've ever read on here. Farsi?

Thanks for your usual intelligent contribution.
Some of your best were "im sure thats it" and other pearls of wisdom. If you dont like what i write either dont read it or block me. There- now you can go back to screaming at your mom for meatloaf from her basement

 

[Fishhead]

Thanks for your usual intelligent contribution.
Some of your best were "im sure thats it" and other pearls of wisdom. If you dont like what i write either dont read it or block me. There- now you can go back to screaming at your mom for meatloaf from her basement

You're welcome!

I'm not the one inferring that Arty can't communicate and is getting singled out. He's lived here since he was 2, he played for Team USA ffs. WTF does inclusion have to do with anything? Arty isn't different, he's been playing hockey in North America for years.

It's fine if you don't like management or how they treat Arty, just say so. But don't make up a bunch of crap to stoke outrage about nothing at all. And I still can't figure out where Farsi came from, they don't speak that in Uzbekistan.

And I'm too lazy to scream at Mom, I have one of those bat phones so she knows when to send pizza down here.

 

[Trash Panda]

Out of all the things to bitch about on this roster, the composition of the 4th line isn’t one of them.

I’ll fully admit to thinking that the Lewis of old was gone, but he has been f***ing nails for the entire pre season.

 

[riznat]

Where did this one sprout up from?

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

I just went through the thread quickly and found this one, I honestly remember quite a bit of dislike directed at Stutzle at the time and I thought it was shocking how contentious it was, even more than the Dewey/Bogo draft threads were. It didn't seem clear cut to me at the time who the BPA was and the discussion here made it seem like it was clear. There also weren't many at all supporting Stutzle.

Also, what's your deal man?

I'm just sick of this narrative that if you wanted Byfield on the team it's because you hated Stutzle...especially from posters that were here. We spent literally an entire offseason parsing how close they were, I'm surprised we weren't digging thru their stool samples for who had the better diet. It's insulting to the forum's intelligence, and especially dismissive of the pretty sizeable contingent who was VOCALLY in favor of Stutzle. But the reason I have a problem with it is it makes it sound like we're incapable of actually analysis and just spent that entire offseason just pissing all over TS.

Do you really think we are capable of NOT overthinking?

 

[FeartheFur]

This whole Byfield vs Stutzle thing is crazy. I guarantee you he wouldn’t get 20 minutes a game on the King’s first line as a rookie. Not only that the stupid Koala bear and Blake would of had him in the AHL his first season.

 

[Axl Rhoadz]

It does hurt to watch this young guy who is a poor communicator ( russian or farsi was probably his first language) Get worked over by todd/ blake and the system for being different. It always surprizes me the hypocrisy of the "new, inclusive nhl" in regards to an awkward young man while an entire organization basically gets a pass for ignoring and thereby enabling an active violent sexual predator (adios mr wertz). It seems "you CAN play" applies to all except if youre a nervous young man that communicates poorly.
I have to be careful with allowing my own youthful experiences as a young man to transfer too much of arty's experience. If i let it, it could really negatively affect me and my very long status as a fan of the kings. My morale as fan is already at an all time low with present mgmt.
I look forward to following arty's career wherever it goes. It looks pretty bleak here and as i have written in multiple other places. Arty would probably be better off being traded elsewhere. Its obvious to the most casual observer the idiot kings mgmt dont realize whst they have in this guy.
Also, thank you for so eloquently writing and expressing my own opinions about ak.

May I be the first to say....WTF are you talking about? And let me add...how the F would you know about any of this....and F your accusations too. Holy hell...

 

[kingsfan28]

There is so much to like about this goal. Totally forgot LAF pasted that guy into the boards earlier in the shift.

 

[Johnny Utah]

Kings need a power forward playing with PL and Fiala not a skilled shooter. Laffy was a good match last game in that spot.

Also, funniest thing about the 2020 draft is after QB the Kings selected Grans, Faber, Laffy and Chromiak.

All the players after might end up better than him.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

There is so much to like about this goal. Totally forgot LAF pasted that guy into the boards earlier in the shift.

Laf's always moving his feet, finishing checks, and supporting the puck. that line does need an Iafallo-style support winger, which is why Turcotte/Laf are better fits than Arty.

Arty needs to be with heavy possession guys like Danault/Moore that can do their own dirty work more often than not.

 

[King'sPawn]

You're welcome!

I'm not the one inferring that Arty can't communicate and is getting singled out. He's lived here since he was 2, he played for Team USA ffs. WTF does inclusion have to do with anything? Arty isn't different, he's been playing hockey in North America for years.

It's fine if you don't like management or how they treat Arty, just say so. But don't make up a bunch of crap to stoke outrage about nothing at all. And I still can't figure out where Farsi came from, they don't speak that in Uzbekistan.

And I'm too lazy to scream at Mom, I have one of those bat phones so she knows when to send pizza down here.

FWIW, there was some talk around the time of the draft that Kaliyev was a poor interview and generally awkward. I think it actually did have a bit of an impact on his draft stock, because he was otherwise considered a first-round talent. More specifically, he was considered the second-best shooter of the draft after Cole Caufield. I don't attribute that awkwardness to anything else (like some have), but it was a point of discussion.

Gare Joyce's Future Greats and Heartbreaks catalogued how he followed the Columbus Blue Jackets, and Phil Kessel was an awful interview with them. He turned out pretty well.

And no, I'm not saying Kaliyev will be Kessel. Just that awkwardness and being a bad interview isn't an indicator of how much they'll succeed. It's also part of the reason why Yannetti hates the combine - the kids just give a bunch of canned answers instead of showing their personality.

 

[Fishhead]

FWIW, there was some talk around the time of the draft that Kaliyev was a poor interview and generally awkward. I think it actually did have a bit of an impact on his draft stock, because he was otherwise considered a first-round talent. More specifically, he was considered the second-best shooter of the draft after Cole Caufield. I don't attribute that awkwardness to anything else (like some have), but it was a point of discussion.

Gare Joyce's Future Greats and Heartbreaks catalogued how he followed the Columbus Blue Jackets, and Phil Kessel was an awful interview with them. He turned out pretty well.

And no, I'm not saying Kaliyev will be Kessel. Just that awkwardness and being a bad interview isn't an indicator of how much they'll succeed. It's also part of the reason why Yannetti hates the combine - the kids just give a bunch of canned answers instead of showing their personality.

You could see how nervous he was at the combine for sure. His interviews during and after games are much better when he's in the moment.

 

[kingsfan28]

Why were the guys sent down today instead of after camp ended and the final preseason game played? Didn't think there was a cap until the first game.

 

[Fishhead]

Why were the guys sent down today instead of after camp ended and the final preseason game played? Didn't think there was a cap until the first game.

Good question. Reign camp is also in El Segundo so it's not like they were actually sent anywhere. I think the reign play at home on Sunday.

 

[King'sPawn]

Why were the guys sent down today instead of after camp ended and the final preseason game played? Didn't think there was a cap until the first game.

Ontario has their own training camp and preseason. In fact, they were supposed to play tonight, but had to be postponed due to a power outage.

 

[Vino]

Ontario has their own training camp and preseason. In fact, they were supposed to play tonight, but had to be postponed due to a power outage.

So they will have only one preseason game. That's not good, because they have so many left shooting D. Krygier, Hicketts, Moverare, Connauton, Nousiainen, Inamoto, Martin, Greenway, Modry.

Right shooting D: Clarke, Santini, Wylie.

Have you seen any practises? Has Moverare, Hicketts or Nousiainen been right side?

 

[King'sPawn]

So they will have only one preseason game. That's not good, because they have so many left shooting D. Krygier, Hicketts, Moverare, Connauton, Nousiainen, Inamoto, Martin, Greenway, Modry.

Right shooting D: Clarke, Santini, Wylie.

Have you seen any practises? Has Moverare, Hicketts or Nousiainen been right side?

I live up near Seattle now, so I am unable to get any in-person viewings until I make a trip back down south.

When watching the preseason games, there was a lot of movement of the pairs for both Hicketts (I forget his regular partner) and Moverare when he was paired with Bjornfot (although Bjornfot was put on the right side by default).

There are others, like regulate, who track that much better than I do. Apologies to those I forgot to mention.

You'll mostly hear me yammering about the other prospects and the 2024 Draft hopefuls, as I'm making it a project to gather footage to make as many draft videos as I can. I have my work cut out for me with all I've gathered this early in the season

 

[Axl Rhoadz]

Good question. Reign camp is also in El Segundo so it's not like they were actually sent anywhere. I think the reign play at home on Sunday.

Remember, they were 'loaned' not 'assigned'....don't really know the difference, but I thought it was interesting.

 

[Axl Rhoadz]

This whole Byfield vs Stutzle thing is crazy. I guarantee you he wouldn’t get 20 minutes a game on the King’s first line as a rookie. Not only that the stupid Koala bear and Blake would of had him in the AHL his first season.

NYR have been playing Alex Lafreniere (that's the guy picked BEFORE Byfield) on the big club since day one. How's that working out for them?

 

[King'sPawn]

NYR have been playing Alex Lafreniere (that's the guy picked BEFORE Byfield) on the big club since day one. How's that working out for them?

As have the Senators with Stutzle.

 

[Axl Rhoadz]

The main issue I see currently is that Blake has no clue how to scout and aquire players that Todd can use correctly...

And Todd has no clue or ability to adapt his system to the players Blake acquires.

The two are not a good fit together no matter how much they claim otherwise.

How do you accumulate 200+ points in last two seasons by not using your players correctly? Danault, Fiala, Gavrikov -- all more than successful acquisitions, now we see was PLD can do but no reason to think it won't be just as good as the others.

Are you thinking of a different team?

As have the Senators with Stutzle.

So I guess what we are saying is that Stutze should have went #1...stupid NYR, lol!

So who goes #2?

 

[kilowatt]

How do you accumulate 200+ points in last two seasons by not using your players correctly? Danault, Fiala, Gavrikov -- all more than successful acquisitions, now we see was PLD can do but no reason to think it won't be just as good as the others.

Are you thinking of a different team?


So I guess what we are saying is that Stutze should have went #1...stupid NYR, lol!

So who goes #2?

Not sure if you’re joking but yes New York should be kicking themselves as well. We should have taken Sanderson at 2, or maybe even Raymond, Mercer, or Askarov.