Not sure if Fagemo is good enough to be impactful at the NHL level so for that reason I'm not gonna be upset about losing him. However it is another once highly thought of prospect who amounted to nothing in this organization. At some point there should be some questions asked in regards to their development program.
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Herby
How could Blake have known?
I disagree on part 1, JAD is a dime-a-dozen type player. Part 2 happens with every prospect on here, largely based on where they are drafted. It’s the reason you still have Turcotte included on the 2nd line in some projected lineups despite showing no signs of being able to be a scorer in any of the last 4 seasons. Hickey was also in everyone’s lineups up until the moment he left.
We will see what happens with Fagemo, alot of times when guys like this are claimed the new team takes a quick look and realizes he’s not good enough for their roster and they hit waivers again.
Nashville was right in the middle for priority so some teams did pass.
King'sPawn
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They have to stay on the NHL roster for 30 days. Because they are against the cap, they can't afford it, unless it's around $1 million and they waive/assign someone else to the AHL.
It is those moves combined with the fact they have to lose at least one, probably more, of Arvidsson, Roy, and Lizotte next summer for cap reasons. The Kings are losing guys that slot right in to the spots for one last "run" when the Kings still have glaring holes that make them a question mark to
DAkings20
Kings can't score
The Kings front office old boys club needs to be cleaned out completely.
The same stupid answers they give when gift wrapped questions is laughable.
The same stupid answers they give when gift wrapped questions is laughable.
Schrute farms
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I don't think Blake realizes you are allowed to trade your prospects that have no spot or need a change of scenery for some return assets. You can only waive them or toss away for nothing into trades. But you can trade FOR other team's such guys (ala Andersson).
Fun times Blakey...fun times indeed
Fun times Blakey...fun times indeed
Sol
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LMFAOOOOO only Byfield is an entry from the rebuild. You can even argue that byfield is on the Kings purely on draft position. What a f***ing idiot. f*** off. what a stupid comment to make. You can say it sucks to lose him but don’t act like it’s drafting that’s taken the spots.
Sol
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If you think people are hung up on Fagemo it’s not that, it’s how he’s gone. He’s left with no experience from the team that’s drafted him. He was supposed to be a decent player but we will never know because the Kings just threw him away because some dumb ass like Lewis took up another spot because Todd doesn’t know how to run a PK.
I have zero faith in this organization.
I have zero faith in this organization.
Steve Zissou
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If Blake was serious about this he would have included Fagemo in the Philly/Lumbus trade so he wouldn't have had to take on $2 million of Provorov's contract for 2 f***ing years.
Blake is proving he only does trades and or transactions in a vacuum void of any of foresight into the foreeseable future of this club.
bland
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The bigger concern is that the Kings are now exposed to an offer sheet on those young players should either break out this year.
I see that line of reasoning. But I also see a character/energy guy outproducing a scoring guy when they’ve had the same opportunity in the AHL. In 3 years he’s never shown that he can do all the little things all over the ice or score enough to make up for it. He’s also regressed when he should be showing more. Im not high on JAD either, but at least he’s made progress in the AHL.
I dont get all the fury when guys like Fagemo, or better, hit waivers in the preseason every year from every team. That’s what the system is designed for.
The Kings are losing prospects this season to keep UFAs that they will lose in July.
King'sPawn
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The scrambling to defend their organizational decisions in the wake of unforced errors is almost entertaining if it wasn't infuriating.
JAD is a bottom-six defensive forward at best. Fagemo is a middle-six scoring forward at best.
JAD has had a pretty rough camp, where even he has struggled in his role. Fagemo has lacked an identity since the Kings drafted him and moved him around, but you still see he likes to be a triggerman, like Martin Frk.
Unlike Frk, Fagemo is in an NHL landscape where teams are trying to get 3 scoring lines and an energy line, which evolved from the previous roster composition.
A team can try to give him more time to try to establish his identity.
Even if he never becomes an NHLer, he was lost for nothing. And it was almost 100% because Blake put the Kings up against the cap, and he decided on the NHL roster by the time Lewis was signed.
This is plain roster mismanagement.
Over $10M will be freed up with Roy, RV, and Kopitars reduction, so if someone breaks out they can cover it. Both will be replaced from within. Plus the cap will increase on top of that so not only can they cover offer sheets, they can add.
The joke is on Nashville. They coulda just waited a couple more days and claimed Kaliyev.
In my eyes, JAD has the same offensive upside as Fagemo, and hes a checker.
Regardless of that, this is a legit gripe. You gotta get something back, because the writing was on the wall with Fagemo last season. You arent gonna find a trade partner right now, it should have happened over summer. He regressed a bit so its not a mystery that he’s been meh in camp.
Getting nothing back pisses me off a lot more than losing Fagemo.
The Kings don't have a single goalie under contract for next year. The replacements for the UFAs you named will further reduce that 10 million figure. With the cap going up, the prices for UFAs will be higher than this summer. There were bargains to be had this summer, but the Kings decided to be the big spenders instead.
AbsentMojo
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Kaliyev is still waiver exempt 1 more season
Raccoon Jesus
We were right there
But how are they supposed to know what he'll become when they artificially glass ceiling him?
He came in and got two points and was immediately sent back down, lol.
If it were JUST Fagemo, it would be one thing. But this is a long-standing and ongoing pattern.
I'm sorry Fishhead I appreciate you trying to be reasonable and pull some of us off the ledge but I don't see how this behavior pattern is defensible. Blake is running out of assets before the window is even open. It's like winning the lottery and spending it all in one year instead of getting any return on investment.
head eyes
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Still, thats plenty to cover. Many teams are in worse situations than the Kings and wont have space either, so I’ll be shocked if UFA rates go up for a couple more years. They can also choose not to tender QO’s to Grundstrom or Lizotte. Lots of options.
If Byfield or Kaliyev breaks out, this team is in fabulous shape.
I really think Blake is just going to give Roy and Arvidsson whatever they want to sign long term. 2024-25 is shaping up to be the true go for broke season with Kopi's reduction and Gavrikov's final year, so they've painted themselves into a corner where they can't afford to let effective NHL players like Roy and Arvy walk. Those extensions plus a goalie will eat up any excess cap so it will be the RFA's like Spence or Kaliyev that get axed simply because anything more than league minimum isn't feasible.
It's really going to be Vilardi part 2. They'll be dealt at a discount, Kings mediasphere will fabricate rumors about how they were "greedy" and wanted a big payday then go radio silent when the player signs at a perfectly affordable AAV. This time next year we'll be talking about a 19 man roster and the next wave of Laferriere and Clarke needing to break out to replace the guys who just broke out the previous year.
My comments are about BOTH breaking out. Their raises would eat up most/all of the cap savings you mentioned before the Kings address goaltending and replacing the UFAs. The Kings might trade several prospects to address goaltending so the UFA replacements might be the lesser of the current prospects. This is a mess.
It probably was Fagemo’s next 7 games with 1 point and a -6 that did him in.
And thanks, l dont mind providing therapy services! I just dont remember anyone the Kings waived under Blake going somewhere else and lighting it up. Losing assets for a far bigger concern for me and I dont think that can be defended at all. They should never get a pass for that.
I simply think the Kings drafted poorly in the late first and second rounds for a while there and their second tier of guys just aren’t that good.
Raccoon Jesus
We were right there
Rofl, lost in the rest of the mess is that the Kings are relying on three elderly journeymen to contend and may yet lose one to waivers
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