Hall's nickname should be Tigger for the amount he bounces and pounces between teams … people should understand this for the warning flag it is.
He bounces between NHL teams more than your Mom!
He bounces between NHL teams more than your Mom!
Rumor: Trades/Proposals: This Offseason can we transition from the "Wasted Years" to living in the Golden Y
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Hall's nickname should be Tigger for the amount he bounces and pounces between teams … people should understand this for the warning flag it is.
He bounces between NHL teams more than your Mom!
Always fun to have a few drinks and post on HFboards
TheNumber4
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If we didn't trade him in an effort to plug the gaping hole at RHD, he'd have stayed. Oh and we wouldn't have had that gaping hole at RHD if the OBC didn't screw us out of the talents of Petry and/or Schultz. His bouncing around after leaving here could be signs of concern though, but Hall probably didn't have his heart in it on tire-fire teams like NJ, Arizona, and Buffalo... his Heart was always in Edmonton, so let's bring him back so he and the Oilers can be whole again.Hall's nickname should be Tigger for the amount he bounces and pounces between teams … people should understand this for the warning flag it is.
He bounces between NHL teams more than your Mom!
TheNumber4
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Picked a random BlackHawks game to iso watch Keith from this last season. First goal against, Kieth makes a weak rim around the boards to clear his zone, gets intercepted at the Blue line. D-man shoots on net, Kieth accidentally tips it into his own net while attempting to clear the front of the net with a cross check push. Eeeek.... I'll watch more though...
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A player like Keith can help the Oilers a lot. A hall of fame defenseman with loads of experience.. the value in the locker room can’t be measured. I also think a change of scenery could do well for him on ice.
I just can’t find any reason we would trade legit assets for him without Neal or Koskinen involved.
I just can’t find any reason we would trade legit assets for him without Neal or Koskinen involved.
We also got out-depthed in the Winnipeg series. Abundantly clear when you shutdown McDrai, it makes the job significantly easier. Heck of a lot more went down in the Chicago series, too than just goaltending. Larsson getting hurt and Bear losing Cinderella's slipper definitely didn't help.
Goaltending plays a big part, which is why it shouldn't be ignored. But you could have prime Brodeur. If your roster in front is turning the puck over frequently, giving up five-bell chances left and right, they're still gonna lose.
Improve the team up front and you won't need a Vezina calibre starter between the pipes.
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In the Winnipeg series the Oilers didn't give the Jets much in the first two games, Helleybuck was simply one save better, in the 3rd game they shit the bed after getting up 4-1, which is something that goes back to the 2017 playoffs even (collapsed against the Ducks multiple times).
4th game is kinda a who cares by that point, you're not coming back from 0-3 down, but Helleybuck again made 1 extra save over Smith anyway.
This team just expects to lose when the goalie is not standing on their head. You can see it also whenever Koskinen is in net, the whole team shrinks and slumps any time a goal is scored. They don't have the maturity/confidence to overcome a situation where the goalie on the other side of the rink is playing better than their guy. Which stems from not having enough talent, they know only 2 guys can do anything offensively and if the other team won't oblige them and play a somewhat loose game, it becomes very hard.
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If we have prime Brodeur, would we also have prime coach-Larry Robinson or prime Pat Burns? Because that makes a big difference over Dave Tipp too.
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McShogun99
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He didn’t really bounce around. Jersey traded him because they were out of the playoffs and he wasn’t long to re sign with them. He picked Buffalo as a UFA and it ended up being the same situation as Jersey. Arizona offered him a contract which he turned down and now Boston is going to offer him a contract. This Hall is a bad player or bad teammate narrative is a load of BS.
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The only fair trade for Kieth is Neal straight up. Kieths contract is buyout proof and Neal’s contract isn’t. If Chicago buys out Kieth they save almost nothing and won’t be able to go all in for Hamilton or Jones. Why should we be the team to help them out? At least with a Neal buyout they save 3.5 million in cap space.
Goes hand in hand with the out-depthed comment. Just because you've got the better cards doesn't mean you're going to win the hand.
It's not like the Oilers need superstar depth, if they had signed or taken off waivers Galchenyuk and Perry for peanuts that probably gives them far more of a boost in the playoffs than the likes of Kahun and Turris.
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Its a lazy narrative still being used especially by these anti Hall brigade fans here
Galchenyuk or Perry do squat for either of the Oilers' checking lines last season. They had two lines and one pairing they could rely on with any kind of consistency last season. Tippett's strategy of stacking the top line limited that to one line in the Winnipeg series.
Again, look at who their second pairing options were last season: Kulikov, Russell, Koekkoek, Jones, Lagesson. That isn't good enough.
I think a 3 way deal would help with the cap issues. How about something like this?
Edmonton receives Duncan Keith at 1.4M.
Chicago retains 50% of Keith's contract (2.75M) and receives Edmontons 1st round pick in addition to James Neal at 5.75M and consecutively bought out for 1.916M against the cap.
Detroit/Seattle receives Chicagos 3rd rounder for retaining 50% of Keith's 2.75M contract (1.375M).
Maybe this is too rich for Chicago but at least they get something significant back (1st rounder) and can spin that however they want.
Edmonton receives Duncan Keith at 1.4M.
Chicago retains 50% of Keith's contract (2.75M) and receives Edmontons 1st round pick in addition to James Neal at 5.75M and consecutively bought out for 1.916M against the cap.
Detroit/Seattle receives Chicagos 3rd rounder for retaining 50% of Keith's 2.75M contract (1.375M).
Maybe this is too rich for Chicago but at least they get something significant back (1st rounder) and can spin that however they want.
And if you invested right you could've been a billionaire and owed the Oilers and did as you pleased . Hindsight is 20/20 .
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Well I’ll join your petition. I would like him as well
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Sorry about the above post ...kinda tired of the Ovi, Landeskog, Hall, Coleman, Schwartz etc etc brigade.
But yes it will take a trade ...its highly unlikely to be Rakell even though he would work for a couple of years.
But yes it will take a trade ...its highly unlikely to be Rakell even though he would work for a couple of years.
If the Oilers are going to take the last two years of this ridiculously long Keith contract then Chicago should pony up. A first rd pick for the whole cap hit, a swap of firsts for 50%. Can’t do other teams any favours, grind them and if they don’t pay up, no dice.
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Why? Anaheim was listening to offers for him last year. Their fanbase seems to think he could be had for a 1st and a forward prospect, so unless they are stuck on it being Holloway there is a deal to be had there I believe.
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Unless it can't happen i still think the best deal for Chicago is to mutually terminate the contract.
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