GDT: Trades & Free Agency

[PromisedLand]

Too many Connors in this world.

Sarah Connor will not agree. The AI Bots from future are sending their best in present

 

[LeafSteel]

Boston also spent a ton of assets last year and got bounced in round 1. This current regime has not won a Stanley Cup. Why do we hold them in such high regard?

Team culture
Building from the net out
Their leaders are leaders
Skill AND will
Leaders leave something at the negotiation table but leave it all on the ice.

Yeah, I like that more than what we have.

 

[Legion34]

Did we need the retention?
Wouldn’t that have saved pick capital?

 

[rumman]

This is a question to all the whining and moaning Leafs fans.

Are you stupid or are you lying?

If you're really as miserable as you seem to be, the you're stupid for continuing to do something that makes you miserable. Move on from the Leafs to something that brings you joy.

If you're not really as miserable as you seem to be, you're lying and should probably be considered a troll.

I love it when the "thought police" tell me what I should think

 

[Strangle]

No team is unbeatable, just ask the Panthers last year or the Habs a few years ago. I understand that this team is just a bunch of regular season heroes but gotta have some form of optimism they can finally do it. It is what it is.

I don't think it's fair to expect the manager of this team to have the same loser mentality.

I totally understand this sentiment, but we are leaf fans. We will cheer until we burst for these guys when it’s all on the line, but when the dust has settled, we need to be honest with ourselves and the direction of this team.

We want a cup before we are all dead, I don’t care if Nylander or Marner or Matthews lifts it, I really don’t care if they are on the team or not when we win. I just want to win one in my lifetime.

I’m half way dead already, im running out of time.

“Do what must be done.”
- Emperor Papatine

 

[myleafs]

That’s been the Dubas way

I’m hoping we can trade Marner back to Dubas, free up a lot of space, revamp the D in the offseason, pickup some wingers with huge balls, sign Tavares to under $4m and go out and get a 2nd line center

Lots of work to do, but if they can’t beat the bruins AND the panthers this year, the experiment has to be over and it’s time to go in another direction

I mean you would think that but Im not sure I can believe it til I see it.

 

[egd27]

Boston also spent a ton of assets last year and got bounced in round 1. This current regime has not won a Stanley Cup. Why do we hold them in such high regard?

Because they own us?

 

[myleafs]

Edit wait, Vegas got the 3rd not Sharks

This deal is worse than Kessel deal in that case by a bit

Hertl was unattractive thougu LT asset

They get out of the deal while VGK gets 2 or 3 good years then 2-3 horrible ones

somehow the Knights will turn those last couple years of that contract into gold piles of capspace and or a 40 goal 22 yr old. fkn vegas

 

[Smif]

Because they own us?

Everyone tells me the regular season doesn't matter

 

[Strangle]

I showed my daughter when wendel went after mcsorely and when Tucker attacked Neil on ottawas bench.

She had never seen anything like it before, her jaw hit the floor, she smiled so widely, and she said “hockey used to be SO COOL! Is this before they invented safety?”

I said, “yes sweetheart, it was before they invented safety. Have you ever seen goalies fight? Check out potvin here….”

I want a team like that again, skill, grit, heart, zero f***s given, a team like the bruins or the panthers or the knights.

You know, the good f***ing teams?

 

[TheTotalPackage]

This is a question to all the whining and moaning Leafs fans.

Are you stupid or are you lying?

If you're really as miserable as you seem to be, the you're stupid for continuing to do something that makes you miserable. Move on from the Leafs to something that brings you joy.

If you're not really as miserable as you seem to be, you're lying and should probably be considered a troll.

You get off on telling people how to feel and constantly begrudging passionate fans who express disappointment, don't you?

 

[Strangle]

I mean you would think that but Im not sure I can believe it til I see it.

Hopefully with Dubas gone Tre can right this ship

 

[rumman]

Treliving doesn’t believe in this core. Hopefully he’ll have the authority to try and change it.

I don't know what Tre thinks, lets ask Shanahan what Tre thinks...........

 

[IrishInOntario]

The tip was at free agency and Treliving only handing out 1 year deals.

They are giving this group with keefe one last chance then they are going to overhaul it

Bertuzzi: $5.5 million
Brodie: $5.0 million
Klingberg: $4.15 million
Samsonov: $3.55 million
Domi: $3.0 million
Kampf: $2.4 million
Liljegren: $1.4 million

Cap raise: $4.2 million

That's a really good chunk of money to reshape the team with. Especially if you expect a couple guys on ELC's to slot in.

 

[egd27]

Everyone tells me the regular season doesn't matter

Own us in the playoffs too

 

[Strangle]

This is a question to all the whining and moaning Leafs fans.

Are you stupid or are you lying?

If you're really as miserable as you seem to be, the you're stupid for continuing to do something that makes you miserable. Move on from the Leafs to something that brings you joy.

If you're not really as miserable as you seem to be, you're lying and should probably be considered a troll.

What are you, a f***ing teenager? I’ve been watching since the horrible 80’s, I’ll stop when I’m dead

The tip was at free agency and Treliving only handing out 1 year deals.

They are giving this group with keefe one last chance then they are going to overhaul it

This is EXACTLY what I’ve been saying since Montreal.

And if the answers aren’t coming from the room, then you change the room

Finally the last ride for this core

 

[LeafsFan89]

I showed my daughter when wendel went after mcsorely and when Tucker attacked Neil on ottawas bench.

She had never seen anything like it before, her jaw hit the floor, she smiled so widely, and she said “hockey used to be SO COOL! Is this before they invented safety?”

I said, “yes sweetheart, it was before they invented safety. Have you ever seen goalies fight? Check out potvin here….”

I want a team like that again, skill, grit, heart, zero f***s given, a team like the bruins or the panthers or the knights.

You know, the good f***ing teams?

I share a similar sentiment; Say what you want about those Sundin teams, Phaneuf/Kessel teams - I never once yelled at my TV or thought: "wow, these guys don't care". I say this regularly over the last 7 years with the Matthews' teams.

 

[Strangle]

I share a similar sentiment; Say what you want for those Sundin teams, Phaneuf/Kessel teams - I never once yelled at my TV or thought: "wow, these guys don't care". I say this regularly over the last 7 years with the Matthews' teams.

Preach, brother

I stand with you in solidarity. [MOD] hard nosed tough hockey is winning again. Time to get on the train or get off the f***ing tracks

Bring back the Bay Street Bullies

 

[Leaf Rocket]

I totally understand this sentiment, but we are leaf fans. We will cheer until we burst for these guys when it’s all on the line, but when the dust has settled, we need to be honest with ourselves and the direction of this team.

We want a cup before we are all dead, I don’t care if Nylander or Marner or Matthews lifts it, I really don’t care if they are on the team or not when we win. I just want to win one in my lifetime.

I’m half way dead already, im running out of time.

“Do what must be done.”
- Emperor Papatine

Spoiler alert...it doesn't end well for him...

 

[LeafsFan89]

Preach, brother

I stand with you in solidarity. p***y hockey is out again, hard nosed tough hockey is winning again. Time to get on the train or get off the f***ing tracks

Bring back the Bay Street Bullies

Hahaha. I would like a bit more more skill on my teams than the Sundin/Kessel days. But I feel we are on the opposite side of the spectrum - all small, skill, perimeter players.

I would loveeee a team like Boston, Vegas, Panthers. Good combination of skill and grit.

 

[rumman]

He got sucked into contract year Willy who had never played as hard as that before he signed and never will again. That harsh reality is setting in for Tre.

well he's got 8 years to regret thst move, not that I think it was Tre's decision..........

 

[Strangle]

Hahaha. I would like a bit more more skill on my teams than the Sundin/Kessel days. But I feel we are on the opposite side of the spectrum - all small, skill, perimeter players.

I would loveeee a team like Boston, Vegas, Panthers. Godo combination of skill and grit.

Me too, man, me too

 

[PromisedLand]

Didn't give up major assets - but I'm not super pumped giving up 5 mid picks for replacement level players (while also losing one to make room for them), either

My take is that he is saying playoffs are a different beast. Brodie is a pending UFA too. Tre is basically saying.... I am giving you Boosh (RHD b/c thats all I could afford);. Edmundson who is going to bring a clear the net, in your face kinda game and Dewar to help with the PK.

You guys wanted to get paid; and you got paid so now show me that I should spend on you more in the playoffs.

Tre is throwing them a bone and is asking them to play a different style of hockey instead of fancy crap that doesn't work when there is no time and space in playoffs.

If Edmundson is a good fit he can be re-signed for cheap; we let Brodie walk and thats at least an NHL level LHD that can be had for lower than Brodie AAV; while next season we get to see youngsters on the roster who get their feet wet in NHL (Cowen, Minten, etc...)

 

[Clark4Ever]

Everyone tells me the regular season doesn't matter

It doesn't. There are countless examples of teams that won playoff series against division rivals that owned them in the regular season.

That being said, Boston has a better defense core and goaltending tandem than we do, and their stars tend to show up when it matters. If we meet them in the playoffs and expect to win, our stars will need to flip the script.

 

[the real Fox mulder]

I view this trade deadline as a status quo. The real change was always going to come this off season, and it starts with the Keefe. If we don't make it to the conference final, Keefe is gone. We also have the cap space to make huge changes to our defense.