Trades & Free Agency Thread - Too Soon Off-Season Edition

[Menzinger]

Rask probably the wrong age and wrong price range for the team at the moment

 

[McSnypsky]

Bringing Rask here would be a nice symbolic way to close the loop on the start of a very terrible era. But he doesn't strike me as a player who would want anything to do with the Toronto Maple Leafs. His swagger would be a welcome addition though.

Rask doesn't seem like he has that Fleury fire to prove people wrong or that he's still got it and at 34 and a little banged up can't see it going well unless it's like for a 1 year contract.

 

[Stephen]

Rask doesn't seem like he has that Fleury fire to prove people wrong or that he's still got it and at 34 and a little banged up can't see it going well unless it's like for a 1 year contract.

He seems to have back issues and the Bruins are thinking the same thing.

 

[Phion Keneuf]

Grubauer / Campbell duo next season. Make it happen.

 

[Brobust]

Grubauer / Campbell duo next season. Make it happen.

Did you watch the game tonight?

 

[Phion Keneuf]

Did you watch the game tonight?

Highlights only. Bad game, good goalie.

 

[Rielly4]

We dont need a number one, Campbell is our guy for now but we definitely need a backup who is capable of being a #1 if Campbell shits the bed.

 

[SeaOfBlue]

We dont need a number one, Campbell is our guy for now but we definitely need a backup who is capable of being a #1 if Campbell shits the bed.

Mrazek seems like a good option, but at the same time just seems so mediocre...

Ullmark would be nice to have if he wants to leave Buffalo. Fits perfectly into that kind of tandem, even if he is not playoff tested.

 

[jaric1862]

I think first and foremost they need to make a decision on Rielly ASAP. Either extend him or trade him, you cannot let him walk right into free agency.

Also if the Leafs want to compete with the Lightning and Golden Knight's of the world they need to somehow ice a better team this year than they did last year...a tough feat to do in the flat cap.

 

[Rielly4]

Mrazek seems like a good option, but at the same time just seems so mediocre...

Ullmark would be nice to have if he wants to leave Buffalo. Fits perfectly into that kind of tandem, even if he is not playoff tested.

Could be Raanta in free agency too.

Best option is Driegder if available at a decent cap hit

 

[Mr Knies Guy]

Was just listening to Lebrun on overdrive and he was talking about Rielly. He said from what he gathered, the Leafs won't be able to afford Rielly's number and odds are the Leafs will have to make a decision on Rielly prior to making any significant moves. He then continued on saying Dubas does not want to have another player playing in his final year without an extension (Hyman, Anderson) He stated Dubas said it was difficult to make any moves with salary last year because of the uncertainty of the salary cap.

So in saying that, I wouldn't be surprised one bit if Rielly is traded pretty early in this off season.

Good, I’m ready for them to move on from one of the longest tenured and core of mentally weak players. I want two stay-at-home defensively responsible D on the top pair. Split his potential pay day (+8m) between Oleksiak and one of Savard/Hjalmarsson if by some miracle they make it to UFA.

 

[ShaneFalco]

Was just listening to Lebrun on overdrive and he was talking about Rielly. He said from what he gathered, the Leafs won't be able to afford Rielly's number and odds are the Leafs will have to make a decision on Rielly prior to making any significant moves. He then continued on saying Dubas does not want to have another player playing in his final year without an extension (Hyman, Anderson) He stated Dubas said it was difficult to make any moves with salary last year because of the uncertainty of the salary cap.

So in saying that, I wouldn't be surprised one bit if Rielly is traded pretty early in this off season.

It was difficult to make moves because you have an overpaid core

 

[VanW27]

I think first and foremost they need to make a decision on Rielly ASAP. Either extend him or trade him, you cannot let him walk right into free agency.

Also if the Leafs want to compete with the Lightning and Golden Knight's of the world they need to somehow ice a better team this year than they did last year...a tough feat to do in the flat cap.

I think first is a decision on Marner, then Hyman, then Rielly assuming the ask from Rielly isn't outrageous.

If you move on from Marner as long as the number is reasonable from Rielly you keep him.

If you keep Marner and let Hyman go you can probably still keep Rielly but the number probably needs to be a little lower.

 

[pspot]

sell low on marner < sell high on nylander

 

[VanW27]

sell low on marner < sell high on nylander

Leafs fans are being critical of Marner for his playoffs but he's also coming off a 4th in league scoring season - I don't see it as a sell low.

Some teams might have less interest but the teams that could get it done, the ones with the cap space and assets, are likely rebuilding/retooling and likely not as concerned.

 

[pspot]

wonder if avs would consider moving landy if they think that's the kind of shift they need. Let Mac step in to C

i consider moving marner in a deal like that Marner for Landy and D (Byram, Timmins, Graves, in that order)

I know avs are really high on Landy so doubt it but would be something id kick tires on for sure

 

[ryno23]

Leafs fans are being critical of Marner for his playoffs but he's also coming off a 4th in league scoring season - I don't see it as a sell low.

Some teams might have less interest but the teams that could get it done, the ones with the cap space and assets, are likely rebuilding/retooling and likely not as concerned.

It's not selling low it's fans of other teams saying he wouldn't fetch a huge price due to his playoff failures. These fans mind you are from teams who don't make the playoffs and need a star to help to score to make the playoffs which Marner can do. Now once in the playoffs that is a different story but fans of Buff, LA, SJ, DET, NJ,ARI shouldn't be concerned about playoff production Marner helps them get there

 

[mydnyte]

wonder if avs would consider moving landy if they think that's the kind of shift they need. Let Mac step in to C

i consider moving marner in a deal like that Marner for Landy and D (Byram, Timmins, Graves, in that order)

I know avs are really high on Landy so doubt it but would be something id kick tires on for sure

so, you'd move Marner for UFA Landy? who will likely be expecting 7-8+ and likely resigns with Col regardless

 

[pspot]

so, you'd move Marner for UFA Landy? who will likely be expecting 7-8+ and likely resigns with Col regardless

didn't realize he was ufa , he ticks so many boxes , pwf, captain, he does have injury concerns and probably 2 or 3 years in to that contract you'd be regretting it
you're right
so who's a younger Landy ....getting tkachuk from flames would be pretty amazing for the battle of Ontario
Marner and rights to Dermott for Tkachuk, Gio with retention and 11th

 

[mydnyte]

didn't realize he was ufa , he ticks so many boxes , pwf, captain, he does have injury concerns and probably 2 or 3 years in to that contract you'd be regretting it
you're right
so who's a younger Landy ....getting tkachuk from flames would be pretty amazing for the battle of Ontario
Marner and rights to Dermott for Tkachuk, Gio with retention and 11th

Landy is what some people here project Hyman to be, he is a total package power forward though, solid defensively, and offensively, and a threat everyplace on the ice. He is why Miko, and MacK are able to put up great numbers, because he compliments them great, and is always an offensive threat (unlike Hyman). His numbers may not look spectacular, but, he's better than his numbers.

 

[Looney Toonies]

No idea how it would happen, but I would love to see Jordan Greenway in the blue and white. Big, Mean, with lots of time left to grow offensively.

 

[WTFMAN99]

No idea how it would happen, but I would love to see Jordan Greenway in the blue and white. Big, Mean, with lots of time left to grow offensively.

Wouldn't mind him if the acquisition cost was right, would love to put him around the net similar to how Byfuglien went to the net to throw off Luongo while Toews and Kane peppered shots and Buff would pick up rebounds.

Sam Blais of STL is interesting to me as well if we removed someone like Soup from bottom 6.

 

[Clark4Ever]

Barring any trades, this is my UFA shopping list if the numbers make sense:

Hyman
Spezza
Galchenyuk
Perry
Bogosian

Backup goaltender

 

[WTFMAN99]

Barring any trades, this is my UFA shopping list if the numbers make sense:

Hyman
Spezza
Galchenyuk
Perry
Bogosian

Spezza 750k
Galchenyuk 1M
Perry 750k
Bogosian 1.2M (?)
Coleman 3.5Mish
Goodrow 2Mish
Saad 4-5M range

 

[LaPlante94]

Horrific? People are really under selling Marner. I understand people are upset with his playoff performance past couple years but he's still a good player lol. At 10.9m he might slightly overpaid but by 1 million or so.

First Year: 61 in 77gp
Second year: 69 in 82gp
Third year: 94 in 82
Fourth year: 67 in 59 (On pace for 94 if not for injury)
This year 67 in 55 (On pace for 100 points in full 82 game season)

Take a Look a the highest paid wingers and their point totals...

Panarin - 11.6m (Multiple 80 point seasons and one 90 point season)
Kane - 10.5m (He has had two 100+ point seasons and hasn't hit 90 points in any other.)
Ovie - 9.5m (He signed this contract in 2008) -- Ovies just a beast, and the greatest goal scorer to play the game.
Benn - 9.5m (Hasn't hit over 90 points once)
Stone - 9.5m (Highest point total was 65 points..)
Kucherov - 9.5m (Savage of a player, has hit 100 points twice and 90 points mutiple times)
Rantanen - 9.2m (Two 80 point seasons, was on past last year for 80 points)
Skinner - 9m (Now this is an horrific contract)

As much as people want to rip on Marner his play has been fine in the regular season and he might have not scored in 18 playoff games, he still has 25 points in 32 playoff games. The difference between Mitch and everyone listed above apart from Rantenen who are the same age (24) -- They are all older and declining while Mitch is just about to enter his prime.

All those players had 30-40+ goal seasons on their resume though along with all those points. Marner careers high was 26 at that time and you can say he was on pace to score 30 this season but does that really mean much with the division we were in because of the Covid situation? Also, I believe I saw something this morning that showed that Marner even struggled to produce offence or wasn't as effective without Matthews on the ice with him and it wasn't like that for Matthews with Marner off the ice. Not saying he sucks but I do think he is overpaid.