The only argument to this would be if mitch was providing kane type playoff stats.... To which he isn't. And to your point, how much longer do you wait to see if he can figure it out? Plus I think he's cooked until he changes his inner circle but that's just me. I agree, we need to move on. And if we can't re-distribute his money, then trade him for a forward who could play a playoff game.
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Friedman says Jones wouldn’t sign here long term. For what it’s worth
Also no way do I want Hyman for 5-6 million.
Also no way do I want Hyman for 5-6 million.
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Assuming we can bring back Galchenyuk and Spezza on team friendly deals, this is what we could have have locked in before shopping for UFAs (depending on what happens in the expansion draft):
xxxx-Matthews-Marner
Galchenyuk-Tavares-Nylander
Robertson-Kerfoot-Spezza
Mikheyev-Brooks-Anderson
Engvall
Rielly-Brodie
Muzzin-Holl
Sandin-Liljegren
Dermott
Campbell
xxxx
That's actually not a bad starting point at all. I would love Hyman back, but I'm not sure he'll take the necessary hometown discount. I would also like Bogosian back, but I'm not sure if the interest is mutual.
If Dubas can make a few shrewd signings with the cap space we'll have available, we should still be able to make the playoffs in a much tougher division.
xxxx-Matthews-Marner
Galchenyuk-Tavares-Nylander
Robertson-Kerfoot-Spezza
Mikheyev-Brooks-Anderson
Engvall
Rielly-Brodie
Muzzin-Holl
Sandin-Liljegren
Dermott
Campbell
xxxx
That's actually not a bad starting point at all. I would love Hyman back, but I'm not sure he'll take the necessary hometown discount. I would also like Bogosian back, but I'm not sure if the interest is mutual.
If Dubas can make a few shrewd signings with the cap space we'll have available, we should still be able to make the playoffs in a much tougher division.
What does he needs to figure out?
Develop a better shot? I think he knows he got a weak shot since his Knights days.
Make simple plays instead of trying to dance around the other team trying to make highlight reel plays? This is coming from someone who said he deleted all his social medias apps before the playoffs. 1. It shows that he cares how he looks in social medias and he wants to impress fans with plays where he can get a couple of millions likes. 2. It shows he cant handle failure and already think he is going to fail. If he thinks he is going to do well, why delete the apps.
no it doesn’t show that, athletes are human. People forget that shit and it’s massively annoying. Making 11 million doesn’t make you less human or mean that you are exempt from emotions.
To expect them not to have emotions or feel like shit when thousands of people are shitting on them is just stupid.
you also have to consider their age! They are still young, social media is all this generation including myself knows. It’s our source of news, it’s how we keep up to date and in contact with our friends and family.
So to make any assumptions based on him deleting his social media is just plain stupidity,
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Never thought Perry would do what he did for the Habs either. I think he was probably third on the list of UFA fossils for the Leafs but they went with Simmonds because he is more of a tough guy than a rat, and Jumbo because he plays center. Based on his previous two seasons CP did not look like he had any gas left in the tank and I wouldn't have signed him either. Spezza was a huge surprise this year as he was scoreless in the play-ins and way more effective at ES this year.
Amazingly after Tavares went down, Keefe kept Spezza's ice time at 11:44 even though he led the club in pp60 in the regular season and was 2nd to Nylander in the playoffs. Its almost like he knew something nobody else did.
Completely forgot about Schmidt.
Not a bad trade, but Podkolzin won't be involve, most likely be draft picks.
Also, Boeser will do well with Marner. But Marner will screw up their internal cap.
Would be interesting to see blockbuster trade between Nucks and us.
lmao this is horrendous and laughable. Our team would suck for years with these trades and then we’ll be wanting to trade all these players because we can’t trust that core
just because you have the cap, it doesn’t mean those players want to sign here. Which is why no management team in their right mind would make that type of gamble. It’s stupid. You’re not signing all four of those guys in UFA. It’s just not happening. This isn’t EA Sports
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Not necessarily, Miller and Schimdt pretty much equals Marner salary and they get Holl at a solid cap hit. Of course my proposal is with the intention of moving Rielly for a solid package and giving us his cap space.
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Jones is going to bet signed to a contract this off-season that some team will come to regret within a couple years at most
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In season we didn’t, off-season is a different case all together. We’re not swimming in cap room but there’s flexibility if you want there to be
I am not saying they are not human or should not have emotions.
The reason he deleted the apps is bc he is afraid of all the negative stuff fans would comment, which shows going into the series, he doesn't have full confidence the Leafs and himself will do well. Bc if he got more confidence and have stronger belief, he would not have done that. This is not a backup plan but you can't go into a competition thinking you might fail. It is like playing to win or playing to not to lose.
Personally, I think all pro-athletes and public figures should have their manager and agent or just hire someone to run their social media accounts and just have an alias account for friends and families.
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Don’t care.
He’s primarily assist heavy when we would benefit more from a 6 million 30/30 Nylander.
That 90 point player becomes a 4/5 point player with no goals (or isn’t a scorer) come playoff time.
2 Nylanders
This would give us more money to spend on a 3rd line that has quality.
When you don’t have depth, those guys need to give you 1.5 - 2x more than the other team top 6 because you don’t get anything from the others.
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Fits with his career too. Never been on a team that's had a deep run, and scores like a 4th liner in the playoffs too. He's one of those players that has developed this strange following despite not really ever achieving much.
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The key to a successful Dubas offseason to meaningfully remake the team, produce upgrades and keep the Big 4 together can be found in the "Kapanen Method."
That is you take tradeable assets and move them out for pure futures to replenish the organization, while simultaneously translating those cap savings to buy big on a pandemic deflated free agent market.
In the Kapanen method, we got the Amirov pick, Hallander and a bunch of other trimmings for moving on from Kapanen.
This summer, I would probably look at trading Jake Muzzin as the big sacrifice, work with Seattle to determine whether they are picking Dermott or Kerfoot and then dispose of Kerfoot if Seattle doesn't want him and then also let Andersen walk and make a final decision on Hyman. If we lose all of these guys, we gain about $16 million cap space. Then there's the lower end free agents like Simmonds, Thornton who might add another $2.25 million to the pot.
Then I go spend that money like a drunken sailor: target big ticket Dougie Hamilton to replace Muzzin. Re-sign Morgan Rielly within reaason. Get a platoon goalie, and look at forward options like Palmieri, Granlund. If we don't have success with Hamilton, maybe we bring on a couple of extra D like Larsson, David Savard and a reclamation like Ryan Murray. Maybe be we look at Taylor Hall finally or Gabriel Landeskog.
Basically the idea is to carve out as much cap space for futures as possible and then spend the money aggressively. The big enemy here is a stagnant roster and nibbling around the edges. Dubas needs to attack the middle class contracts, bring in a flow of assets and then spend that new found cap. He did it last year. He's got to do the same again this year.
That is you take tradeable assets and move them out for pure futures to replenish the organization, while simultaneously translating those cap savings to buy big on a pandemic deflated free agent market.
In the Kapanen method, we got the Amirov pick, Hallander and a bunch of other trimmings for moving on from Kapanen.
This summer, I would probably look at trading Jake Muzzin as the big sacrifice, work with Seattle to determine whether they are picking Dermott or Kerfoot and then dispose of Kerfoot if Seattle doesn't want him and then also let Andersen walk and make a final decision on Hyman. If we lose all of these guys, we gain about $16 million cap space. Then there's the lower end free agents like Simmonds, Thornton who might add another $2.25 million to the pot.
Then I go spend that money like a drunken sailor: target big ticket Dougie Hamilton to replace Muzzin. Re-sign Morgan Rielly within reaason. Get a platoon goalie, and look at forward options like Palmieri, Granlund. If we don't have success with Hamilton, maybe we bring on a couple of extra D like Larsson, David Savard and a reclamation like Ryan Murray. Maybe be we look at Taylor Hall finally or Gabriel Landeskog.
Basically the idea is to carve out as much cap space for futures as possible and then spend the money aggressively. The big enemy here is a stagnant roster and nibbling around the edges. Dubas needs to attack the middle class contracts, bring in a flow of assets and then spend that new found cap. He did it last year. He's got to do the same again this year.
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Thats a pretty big overpay by the Leafs. Miller would have to be doing 2019-20 over and over again to make it remotely worth it. Marner just turned 24 and he was 4th in league scoring. A couple of weak playoffs or not you need a star back for him, or a boatload of value. I would also argue Schmidt had a worse year than Holl at double the contract.
I like the trade esp since Miller is part of it. The issue is Marner' s caphit and although Bennings seem dumb, I don't think he wants to set the internal cap to be 10.893mil before extending Petey and Hughes.
I think the owner of the Nucks might want to make a splash though.
Good thing is that, even Jones himself knows he won't sign for 10mil.
I think he is looking at 7-8mil/yr.
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The trade Muzzin to sign Hamilton is definitely intriguing. Though I'd want a guarantee from Hamilton he'd sign before pulling the trigger on it
Menzinger
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The flat cap definitely putting a bit of a cap on things.
He's got a recognizable name though, which always boosts prices. 7-8mil probably a fair guess
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