Trades & Free Agency Thread: Off-season Edition

[SprDaVE]

It better be really good imo. Just a pick won't help much. Dump a bigger contract instead.

Robertson played very well with Nylander and McMann so I think he will stay.

https://x.com/i/web/status/1839743837134012460

 

[LeafsFan89]

It better be really good imo. Just a pick won't help much. Dump a bigger contract instead.

Robertson played very well with Nylander and McMann so I think he will stay.

https://x.com/i/web/status/1839743837134012460

I think moving Robertson is a big mistake given our circumstances. You can't teach "the motor" the kid has (look at our team, how many people have the motor he does?), and he scored 15 goals last season playing third line minutes, limited PP time, in and out of the line up.

 

[stickty111]

It better be really good imo. Just a pick won't help much. Dump a bigger contract instead.

Robertson played very well with Nylander and McMann so I think he will stay.

https://x.com/i/web/status/1839743837134012460

One of these days Seravelli will be right about something

 

[Jimmy Firecracker]

Trading Nick Robertson to make room for Max Pacioretty would be this generations version of waiving Steve Sullivan to make room for Dmitri Khristich. Just a monumentally stupid move that would bite this franchise in the ass for years afterwards.

 

[Jacquestrapless]

lol Robertson would be playing on the 3rd line with tavares, mcmann while getting lesser matchups. This season would be easy to pump his value up.

 

[LeafSteel]

According to who?
The only time I’ve ever heard us being linked to Weegar was Dubas offering a package involving Andreas Johnsson which Florida obviously turned down

And if we’re taking both having been UFAs, there are a ton of reasons why players don’t end up in certain cities that have nothing to do with the team choosing the other option over them.

Not going into this in detail as there is plenty on the topic in past posts, but it involved Johnsson and Dermott .

Dubas chose to resign both as opposed to pushing that trade over the finish line.

 

[uncleben]

says lorentz is likely to get a contract as well

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[SprDaVE]

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Big 4th line guy.

He's a huge Leafs fan and seems excited to be here though. And he was good last night against an AHL team. So could be a useful depth player. Doesn't seem like Treliving liked or likes the current depth options too much.

 

[Roo]

Seravelli has no idea what’s going on… not credible imo

 

[Fogelhund]

Not going into this in detail as there is plenty on the topic in past posts, but it involved Johnsson and Kapanen.

Dubas chose to resign both as opposed to pushing that trade over the finish line.

A theory proposed by media, that was later denied by Florida, but seems to live one anyway.

 

[LeafSteel]

A theory proposed by media, that was later denied by Florida, but seems to live one anyway.

This is not an Ecklund trash thing, this was an Elliott Friedman thing.

Don’t have to like it and no interest in revisiting it, but it isn’t to be dismissed either.

Everyone can believe whatever they want.

Leaving it at this.

 

[conFABulator]

Trading Nick Robertson to make room for Max Pacioretty would be this generations version of waiving Steve Sullivan to make room for Dmitri Khristich. Just a monumentally stupid move that would bite this franchise in the ass for years afterwards.

I agree and I like the reference too.

What I can't figure out is why Lorentz and Pacioretty are here on PTOs without contracts. The implication has been that Pacioretty is all but signed and it's a formality.

I have a theory and I am not even sure if it is possible under the CBA. Is there any chance that one or both of those guys don't get signed when camp ends but they stay working out with the team? A month into the season (possibly sooner) we should know if Cowan is staying or going (9 games), we might have an injury or two, or maybe we trade Kampf and/or Jarnkrok to make room? These things could happen sooner and make this easier to navigate but it does give us some flexibility to not have to make moves.

 

[Jimmy Firecracker]

Kampf or Jarnkrok. Those two IMO are the most expendable players on the roster and I can't narrow down which one the Leafs would miss the least.

Kampf:

Strengths: Plays centre, defensively responsible, PKs, good on the draw.

Weaknesses: Offensively challenged, not particularly fast, soft, can't play higher in the lineup than fourth line.

Jarnkrok:

Strengths: Good for 15-ish goals and 30-35 points every healthy 82 game season, defensively responsible, PKs, can play centre in a pinch, able to play on lines 2-4, shoots right-handed.

Weaknesses: Soft, not particularly fast, not good on the draw, disappears in the playoffs.



Moving Jarnkrok would leave Reaves as our next best right-handed winger after Marner, assuming Nylander sticks at centre, which doesn't feel ideal. On the other hand it'd be easier to replace Jarnkrok on the wing than Kampf at centre. Are any of Holmberg, Dewar, or Lorentz capable of eating Kampf's minutes and crucially winning D-zone faceoffs? Holmberg's got the numbers, maybe it's time to let him run with the role. Holmberg could also usurp Jarnkrok's role as the swiss-army winger.

The biggest hang-up in all of this is if any team even want Kampf at his cap-hit. Jarnkrok would be an easier sell on a team and we likely wouldn't have to add anything to off-load him. Jarnkrok is the more versatile player, but as a winger we should have an easier time replacing him. This is such a dumb problem. Could've avoided all of this of Treliving just kept Lafferty as 4C last season and let Kampf walk.

Feels like Jarny's on the way out. Hopefully that's enough to fix the cap crunch.

 

[Menzinger]

It better be really good imo. Just a pick won't help much. Dump a bigger contract instead.

Robertson played very well with Nylander and McMann so I think he will stay.

https://x.com/i/web/status/1839743837134012460

Imo Seravalli is saving face..

Most of the media chatter I think points to be Leafs wanting to keep Robertson

 

[WTFMAN99]

With the Kings losing Doughty from month to month, would they have an interest in Timmins for a 6th-7th round pick? Spence and Clarke are their only other RD I see.

 

[Rare Jewel]

Trading Nick Robertson to make room for Max Pacioretty would be this generations version of waiving Steve Sullivan to make room for Dmitri Khristich. Just a monumentally stupid move that would bite this franchise in the ass for years afterwards.

Perhaps, but hopefully, they get a good return. Also, with Cowan coming and looking decent now from last night, it's not especially for Pacioretty.

 

[Kiwi]

I'm not against trading Robertson, I get the feeling he still wants to be traded at some point soon to but if we're going to do that let's pump up his value beforehand

Put the kid with a couple of playmakers and give him plenty of PP time, inflate the hell out of his stats and let's trade the kid at the peak of his value

 

[hamzarocks]

According to who?
The only time I’ve ever heard us being linked to Weegar was Dubas offering a package involving Andreas Johnsson which Florida obviously turned down

And if we’re taking both having been UFAs, there are a ton of reasons why players don’t end up in certain cities that have nothing to do with the team choosing the other option over them.

I dont remember the panthers turning it down

I thought It was Johnsson + Dermott for Weegar in 2020 offseason which dubas turned down



This would be before Weegar became a #2/3D in 2021 but we handled the situation poorly as Dermott was lost shortly in the next year or so for a 3rd and Johnsson was dealt for Joey Anderson who never became anything for us

 

[LeafSteel]

I dont remember the panthers turning it down

I thought It was Johnsson + Dermott for Weegar in 2020 offseason which dubas turned down



This would be before Weegar became a #2/3D in 2021 but we handled the situation poorly as Dermott was lost shortly in the next year or so for a 3rd and Johnsson was dealt for Joey Anderson who never became anything for us

Right, I forgot it was Dermott and Johnsson.

Thanks for posting but don’t post it too loudly as this piece seems to rankle some to no end and leads to an immediate and blanket denial, followed by the assertion that it was a made up media rumor and will be summarily dismissed…..

The immediate denials will then be Liked by the Dubasites here who can’t tolerate any besmirching of their idols legacy.