Trades & Free Agency Thread: Off-season Edition

[Stephen]

You just described several players on the Leafs, Holmberg isn’t alone in this that’s for damn sure…….

For some reason they love those utility type guys with no pop.

 

[Maple Leaf]

For some reason they love those utility type guys with no pop.

I want those board crunching cycle players who get in the dirty areas you know what I mean?

 

[Legion34]

3 players I can see the Leafs interested in come trade deadline will be,

Scott Laughton (who seems like every season the Leafs have interest)

Morgan Frost

Ross Colton

Personally my favorite out of the 3 would be Colton as he would make a solid 3rd line center for this team.

My bet was frost for Lilly. I still think jt makes sense

 

[ULF_55]

So holmberg is already nearing the cast off line?

Why cant he just be an internal 3rd 4th line player for a couple years and get better

We must not let them get comfortable.

When is the last time a Leafs prospect/player broke out at age 26.

"Pay no attention to the player behind the curtain!"

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Grading the Maple Leafs' Top 8 Defensemen - The Hockey Writers Latest News, Analysis & More

In grading the Toronto Maple Leafs top eight defensemen, there are surprises. Who grades out the highest? Who has the highest contract value?

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Top-Rated Maple Leafs Defenseman: Timothy Liljegren: Defensive Dynamo ​

Second-Rated Maple Leafs Defenseman: Morgan Rielly: Offensive Powerhouse With Defensive Challenges
Third-Ranked Maple Leafs Defenseman: Conor Timmins: Balanced Contributor
Fourth-Rated Maple Leafs Defenseman: Jake McCabe: Reliable Two-Way Player
Fifth-Ranked Maple Leafs Defenseman: Mark Giordano: Veteran Presence With Defensive Challenges
Sixth-Ranked Maple Leafs Defenseman: TJ Brodie: Offensive Flair With Defensive Struggles
Seventh-Rated Maple Leafs Defenseman: Simon Benoit: Defensive Specialist With Offensive Challenges
Eighth-Rated Maple Leafs Defenseman: William Lagesson: Defensive Focus With Limited Offensive Impact

Timmins is likely to be waived, if he's ranked at #3 your entire list is invalid

 

[LeafSteel]

Grading the Maple Leafs' Top 8 Defensemen - The Hockey Writers Latest News, Analysis & More

In grading the Toronto Maple Leafs top eight defensemen, there are surprises. Who grades out the highest? Who has the highest contract value?

thehockeywriters.com

Top-Rated Maple Leafs Defenseman: Timothy Liljegren: Defensive Dynamo ​

Second-Rated Maple Leafs Defenseman: Morgan Rielly: Offensive Powerhouse With Defensive Challenges
Third-Ranked Maple Leafs Defenseman: Conor Timmins: Balanced Contributor
Fourth-Rated Maple Leafs Defenseman: Jake McCabe: Reliable Two-Way Player
Fifth-Ranked Maple Leafs Defenseman: Mark Giordano: Veteran Presence With Defensive Challenges
Sixth-Ranked Maple Leafs Defenseman: TJ Brodie: Offensive Flair With Defensive Struggles
Seventh-Rated Maple Leafs Defenseman: Simon Benoit: Defensive Specialist With Offensive Challenges
Eighth-Rated Maple Leafs Defenseman: William Lagesson: Defensive Focus With Limited Offensive Impact

The best thing about this list is that it reminds me Brodie and Gio are no longer on the team.

 

[Contenderorpretender]

I’ll point out his 28.6% shooting in the playoffs points to luck, not some skill we should be excited about. He also only put up 3 points in the regular season. He’s not that good.

Sooo marner just has bad luck? You take advantage of opportunities and ge clearly did.

 

[ULF_55]

Timmins is likely to be waived, if he's ranked at #3 your entire list is invalid

Not my list ... and it is like advanced stats, doesn't mean much if it overlooks what happened rather than what might have happened in some alternate reality.

 

[Roo]

No way they move Holmberg. He's had what, 80-something games in the NHL? Even if he's 25 he still has potential upside, he's good defensively, can play any forward position, and his cap hit is minimal. Seems like someone you keep for sure, but I could be wrong.

 

[ACC1224]

No way they move Holmberg. He's had what, 80-something games in the NHL? Even if he's 25 he still has potential upside, he's good defensively, can play any forward position, and his cap hit is minimal. Seems like someone you keep for sure, but I could be wrong.

He wouldn't be on my list to move either.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Not my list ... and it is like advanced stats, doesn't mean much if it overlooks what happened rather than what might have happened in some alternate reality.

I'm aware It's not your list.

But any list that has Timmins ranked 3rd is a completely invalid list.

 

[ULF_55]

He wouldn't be on my list to move either.

He's also the lowest paid and wants to be there.
Does PK.

 

[ULF_55]

I'm aware It's not your list.

But any list that has Timmins ranked 3rd is a completely invalid list.

Yeah, it is an Analytical Rating.

It is like most other analytical ratings ...

 

[Fogelhund]

Sooo marner just has bad luck? You take advantage of opportunities and ge clearly did.

I'm not sure how to respond to this. I mean, is this a case of purposefully being difficult, or having a complete lack of knowledge of stats... I really can't tell. Statistical variances beyond the norm, aren't valid measurements of any future success. Lorentz's career shooting is 8%... expecting nearly 29% going forward, based on two goals in 7 shots is foolish at best.

Marner's shooting % in the playoffs career is 7.6%... That's what you'd expect from him going forward, unless somehow he makes changes in his game to improve that. He shot just above that this year.

 

[SprDaVE]

Once rumoured to the Leafs on a PTO.

https://x.com/i/web/status/1834601280305521055

 

[rumman]

Once rumoured to the Leafs on a PTO.

https://x.com/i/web/status/1834601280305521055

If Patches gets a look, why wouldn’t Clutterbuck? Poor man’s Bertuzzi…….

 

[SprDaVE]

If Patches gets a look, why wouldn’t Clutterbuck? Poor man’s Bertuzzi…….

I'd probably prefer Clutterbuck over Reaves for sure. He can PK and hits a lot.

If the Leafs finally pull off a trade (or two) maybe they circle back to Clutterbuck on the cheap.

 

[OVO16]

Clutterbuck wants a contract and not a PTO. I'm almost 100% certain that the leafs were one of the teams that offered a PTO but he's holding out for a contract

Treliving switched to Lorentz instead is my guess

I dont see a pathway for Clutterbuck on the leafs now. Too many bodies, unless we start trading people. I can see him going to Nashville to reunite with Trotz

 

[notdoneyet]

I think Timmins jarnkrok and kampf future
With the team hinges on whether Cowan
Minten and grebonkin show if they have the skill to make the team
I know Timmins is a dman but it’s just his cap hit that one of the kids will replace
IMHO kampf and jarnkrok for sure should be gone
Both are now redundant on the team now
Use that 4.5 million in cap to go after a third line center
Trade chips Timmins Robertson Bprospect like Voit/abruzuzeee draft pick etc

 

[Sypher04]

If we didn’t trade Robertson while he was refusing to sign, I don’t see why we would now with him signed to a measily 875k. He is very likely to score 20+ goals for us

 

[VanW27]

I think Timmins jarnkrok and kampf future
With the team hinges on whether Cowan
Minten and grebonkin show if they have the skill to make the team
I know Timmins is a dman but it’s just his cap hit that one of the kids will replace
IMHO kampf and jarnkrok for sure should be gone
Both are now redundant on the team now
Use that 4.5 million in cap to go after a third line center
Trade chips Timmins Robertson Bprospect like Voit/abruzuzeee draft pick etc

There's no scenario, outside injuries that Timmins is on the team.

I get that people like the tools and the frequent injuries might make you think there's room to grow, and maybe there is, but he may be the single "dumbest" defenseman I've ever seen wear a Leafs uniform. He makes Ric Jackman look like Nic Lidstrom with his decision making out there.

He'll be waived and he won't be claimed.

 

[SprDaVE]

If we didn’t trade Robertson while he was refusing to sign, I don’t see why we would now with him signed to a measily 875k. He is very likely to score 20+ goals for us

He probably still wants to be traded so the Leafs could trade him if a team offer up a return that is good/makes sense. Could be something that materializes by the deadline.

 

[ACC1224]

There's no scenario, outside injuries that Timmins is on the team.

I get that people like the tools and the frequent injuries might make you think there's room to grow, and maybe there is, but he may be the single "dumbest" defenseman I've ever seen wear a Leafs uniform. He makes Ric Jackman look like Nic Lidstrom with his decision making out there.

He'll be waived and he won't be claimed.

+9 in 25 games, wish they had more players that dumb.

 

[Sypher04]

He probably still wants to be traded so the Leafs could trade him if a team offer up a return that is good/makes sense.

I’m generally of the opinion who cares what he wants. He gets his chance and plays well under Berube this year and even that probably changes. He’s also an RFA again at the end of this his new deal.

I mean sure if it makes sense for us fine, but the price for Robertson is only going up imo and nobody wanted him during the offseason.

He is probably going to be one of our best value contracts this year.

 

[Fogelhund]

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