Trades & Free Agency Thread: Off-season Edition

[Americanadian]

I'm going to guess Liljegren goes to Seattle. They have a hole on 2/3RD and they seem to value players with good advanced numbers. His value seems incredibly diminished by the fact that he could get 3M+ in arbitration.

I woudn't be surprised if a deal is centered around Kartye or Winterton. Potentially Robertson+Liljegren for Kartye+Winterton.

 

[rumman]

IMO there's a good argument to be made for trading Marner for pennies but whatever. And 2025-25 is more than likely to be a similar outcome, Tavares being gone isn't going to magically cure what's wrong with this team.

Lising marner and JT leave two questionable playoff underperforming core members, one could hope that wakes them up, but it’s no guarantee…….

 

[Evilhomer]

I asked you why you're not worried about aging issues.

I'm not sure I see a big issue. Tanev will make between 3 and 4 million. It just won't be a big enough number to worry much about when the cap is $96 million. He'll be a lower-pair defenseman that will still be effective at penalty killing even when his foot speed is gone.

 

[rumman]

I'm going to guess Liljegren goes to Seattle. They have a hole on 2/3RD and they seem to value players with good advanced numbers. His value seems incredibly diminished by the fact that he could get 3M+ in arbitration.

I woudn't be surprised if a deal is centered around Kartye or Winterton. Potentially Robertson+Liljegren for Kartye+Winterton.

I’d trade him for Tanev and some sweetener…….

 

[LeafsOHLRangers98]

FWIW it would be

Rielly Tanev
McCabe Parayko


If those are the guys we had. Tanev is a far better partner for Reilly’s style. Parayko can move the puck quite well, and excels with a strong defensive partner as well.

Personally I think Parayko lines up really well with Rielly's play as he moves the puck better than Tanev. Neither guy (Rielly or Parayko)have ever had a partner as good as the other one though so hard to tell how they would mesh. Either way it would be a good problem to have.

 

[SprDaVE]

I'm going to guess Liljegren goes to Seattle. They have a hole on 2/3RD and they seem to value players with good advanced numbers. His value seems incredibly diminished by the fact that he could get 3M+ in arbitration.

I woudn't be surprised if a deal is centered around Kartye or Winterton. Potentially Robertson+Liljegren for Kartye+Winterton.

I’d trade him for Tanev and some sweetener…….

Yep I also see B. Tanev to be someone the Leafs target by the next trade deadline. I would not be shocked that he could be someone they get soon.

 

[Peasy]

Hilarious watching how aggressive a team like Tampa has been. They win b2b and make the finals 3 times in a row. Get bounced in round 1 b2b years and they decide to overhaul trading Serg, and likely not even re-signing THEIR CAPTAIN, and are in on the biggest FA. Now THAT is a serious organization. What we have here is a circus. They're not serious at all.

 

[Gary Nylund]

I'm not sure I see a big issue. Tanev will make between 3 and 4 million. It just won't be a big enough number to worry much about when the cap is $96 million. He'll be a lower-pair defenseman that will still be effective at penalty killing even when his foot speed is gone.

Yeah, like Brodie was. Ooooooooooookay.

I believe the cap this year is 88 so 96 is just below a 10% increase on that. You can shrug it off and pretend it's nothing to worry about but 3-4 million is still more than just a little bit significant.

 

[thusk]

Hilarious watching how aggressive a team like Tampa has been. They win b2b and make the finals 3 times in a row. Get bounced in round 1 b2b years and they decide to overhaul trading Serg, and likely not even re-signing THEIR CAPTAIN, and are in on the biggest FA. Now THAT is a serious organization. What we have here is a circus. They're not serious at all.

Doesn't mean its the right think to do

 

[rumman]

Hilarious watching how aggressive a team like Tampa has been. They win b2b and make the finals 3 times in a row. Get bounced in round 1 b2b years and they decide to overhaul trading Serg, and likely not even re-signing THEIR CAPTAIN, and are in on the biggest FA. Now THAT is a serious organization. What we have here is a circus. They're not serious at all.

Play hard on the ice, hard in the boardroom, how refreshing……

 

[Albz]

I’m happy with that return…….

So you're happy with basically getting shitall for a 100 point player who's also good defensively loll. We really don't deserve great players I swear

 

[the real Fox mulder]

It's gong to be a roster player, 1st round pick and a 3rd type trade imo. You can just never get fair value for superstars. If we could get a young star player in return, I'm open minded to it, but I just don't see it happening.

I'll just take picks and prospects for him. Getting some value and assets from him is a lot better than just letting him walk next year.

If Tre only wants picks and prospects in any Marner trade. I could see a team willing to give that up for just 1 year of Marner but a fully year. The biggest issue is getting him to waive his NMC

 

[LeafsOHLRangers98]

I'm going to guess Liljegren goes to Seattle. They have a hole on 2/3RD and they seem to value players with good advanced numbers. His value seems incredibly diminished by the fact that he could get 3M+ in arbitration.

I woudn't be surprised if a deal is centered around Kartye or Winterton. Potentially Robertson+Liljegren for Kartye+Winterton.

Why would he get $3M+ in arb?

The only guys that usually jump that much are guys that put up big offensive numbers and Liljegren has not done that to this point.

I have him at 1 lx $1.9M or 2 x$2.5M max and at that point you keep him unless you somehow acquire 3 better RHD. No point in adding Tanev just to remove Liljegren for no reason.

 

[57 Years No Cup]

yeah I agree either get Zadorov and move McCabe to the right side or keep McCabe on the left and get Roy to pair with him. Tavev plays 2nd pair with Mo

That's a bold statement...

 

[rumman]

So you're happy with basically getting shitall for a 100 point player who's also good defensively loll. We really don't deserve great players I swear

How can you say that when you don’t know what player, pick or prospect is involved in this supposed deal? Why not admit it, you wouldn’t trade Marner for anything……..

 

[OVO16]

Friedman stated in his 32 thoughts blog that trading Marner would be a mistake. Cant trade of incredible talent like that

Have to assume Berube wants to work with him and see if he can do something with him

 

[Peasy]

Doesn't mean its the right think to do

So you'd prefer them to just continue with status quo and hope for something to magically change like what we're doin here?

To each their own.

They were in the same situation with Serg as we were with Mitch last season. The year before their NTC kick in. Tampa decided to strike quick, while the Leafs decided to stick with what they know hasnt worked.

Friedman stated in his 32 thoughts blog that trading Marner would be a mistake. Cant trade of incredible talent like that

Have to assume Berube wants to work with him and see if he can do something with him

The media corporations that own this team are working overdrive to change the narrative.

 

[ErnieLeafs]

Friedman stated in his 32 thoughts blog that trading Marner would be a mistake. Cant trade of incredible talent like that

Have to assume Berube wants to work with him and see if he can do something with him

Which, regardless of what fans on a message board think, is completely fair. You have a hundred point player who's an elite playmaker, kills penalties, etc,.

The new coach wanting to work with that guy makes perfect sense, and if Marner doesn't want to waive, so be it. We roll into the season looking forward under new leadership and try to establish the identity Berube is trying to impart on the group.

 

[ToneDog]

Friedman stated in his 32 thoughts blog that trading Marner would be a mistake. Cant trade of incredible talent like that

Have to assume Berube wants to work with him and see if he can do something with him

We've won one round in nine attempts with that incredible talent ?

If only Marner was faster, bigger, stronger and not afraid of contact.

 

[the real Fox mulder]

Friedman stated in his 32 thoughts blog that trading Marner would be a mistake. Cant trade of incredible talent like that

Have to assume Berube wants to work with him and see if he can do something with him

It's also a mistake to let the core 4 stay together this long a mistake as well.

 

[Puckstuff]

I'll just take picks and prospects for him. Getting some value and assets from him is a lot better than just letting him walk next year.

If Tre only wants picks and prospects in any Marner trade. I could see a team willing to give that up for just 1 year of Marner but a fully year. The biggest issue is getting him to waive his NMC

I don't want to trade Marner for picks and prospects during the Matthews window. It makes no sense to me.

If the Leafs trade Marner, they need a new high end forward. Who would be the leafs 3rd best point getter after they axe Tavares and Marner? We're looking at Maxi Domi... I mean, it's a huge drop off...

There would need to be a plan to get a new #3 forward i.e a Guentzel or Robert Thomas type. Because I don't see that happening, I think they should keep Marner.

 

[ToneDog]

Which, regardless of what fans on a message board think, is completely fair. You have a hundred point player who's an elite playmaker, kills penalties, etc,.

The new coach wanting to work with that guy makes perfect sense, and if Marner doesn't want to waive, so be it. We roll into the season looking forward under new leadership and try to establish the identity Berube is trying to impart on the group.

If you cannot make a trade or he won't waive, what other choice is there ?

He's a 100 point player who turns into a 16 goal/72 point player in the playoffs. Worse in games 5-7.

 

[thusk]

So you'd prefer them to just continue with status quo and hope for something to magically change like what we're doin here?

To each their own.

They were in the same situation with Serg as we were with Mitch last season. The year before their NTC kick in. Tampa decided to strike quick, while the Leafs decided to stick with what they know hasnt worked.


The media corporations that own this team are working overdrive to change the narrative.

If tampa missed the playoff next season, do we tell it was a good idea to trade sergachev and let go Stamkos.

They made a choice but nobody know if its a good one or a bad one or just doesn't change anything

 

[Peasy]

Hilarious watching how aggressive a team like Tampa has been. They win b2b and make the finals 3 times in a row. Get bounced in round 1 b2b years and they decide to overhaul trading Serg, and likely not even re-signing THEIR CAPTAIN, and are in on the biggest FA. Now THAT is a serious organization. What we have here is a circus. They're not serious at all.

Florida did the exact same shit with Huberdeau. President trophy win, they get embarrassed, they recognize that the way they play wont work, and dumped the guy that just scored 115 points and set the assist record for LW because they knew he couldnt cut it come post season time. And that move got them a cup and another final appearance so far.

Still blows my mind the amount of people that are cool with running it back

You guys are so scared of making any kind of change or risk. What do we literally have to lose lmao. Its not like we've been successful.

 

[ErnieLeafs]

If you cannot make a trade or he won't waive, what other choice is there ?

He's a 100 point player who turns into a 16 goal/72 point player in the playoffs. Worse in games 5-7.

Yeah, that's been what's happened to date. We all know that. The point has been beaten with a 30 pound club.

Reality is, he's more than likely on this team until at least the deadline, nd probably until July 1st, next season, so I hope Berube has a plan to get the best out of him.

I'll cheer for the guy, like I always have, because he's wearing my team's shirt.