Trades & Free Agency Thread: Off-season Edition

[Peasy]

If tampa missed the playoff next season, do we tell it was a good idea to trade sergachev and let go Stamkos.

They made a choice but nobody know if its a good one or a bad one or just doesn't change anything

You honestly think theyre going to miss the playoffs by swapping serg with mcdonagh, gaining 8m from a poor 5 on 5 player and defensive liability, and possibly getting guentzel?

I know I for sure wouldnt bet on that happening.

 

[OVO16]

Regarding Bertuzzi and Domi, it's pretty clear that both Bertuzzi/Domi wants to stay and that the Leafs want them back as well. Trelving has told them to stand pat as he needs to shore up his defense first and needs all available cap-space he can get

Treliving negotiated with both of them and has an idea of what they want and what they would need to stay. He just wants his defense figured out first

 

[rumman]

Friedman stated in his 32 thoughts blog that trading Marner would be a mistake. Cant trade of incredible talent like that

Have to assume Berube wants to work with him and see if he can do something with him

Gretzky was traded, you can’t trade a more talented player so Friedman is out to lunch on this topic…….

 

[Budz]

I will go on the record. I am for Zadorov. I personally believe he will a fine 4D. I’m ok going over 5 million as well.

I predict he’s an instant fan favourite and exactly what this team needs. He’s getting better, not slowing down.

 

[weems]

If we sign Tanev, we need to be careful with the following defensive acquisition that it doesn't push us too far in the struggle to move the puck territory.

I like Zadorov as a player but not sure I like committing that type of money to a guy that's strengths are physicality, big shot, strength in front of the net right after signing Tanev. I would rather get someone that is better at retrieving pucks and being able to really turn it up the ice with some speed.

 

[stats1]

If we sign Tanev, we need to be careful with the following defense acquisition that it doesn't push us too far in the struggle to move the puck territory.

I like Zadorov as a player but not sure I like committing that type of money to a guy that's strengths are physicality, big shot, strength in front of the net right after signing Tanev. I would rather get someone that is better at retrieving pucks and being able to really turn it up the ice with some speed.

Pretty clear Treliving is all in this summer, I’m expecting Zadorov, OEL, Tanev. One of Domi/Bert back and Lilejgren traded. Also swapping 2nd rounders allows Brad to have some ammo for the trade deadline

 

[the real Fox mulder]

I don't want to trade Marner for picks and prospects during the Matthews window. It makes no sense to me.

If the Leafs trade Marner, they need a new high end forward. Who would be the leafs 3rd best point getter after they axe Tavares and Marner? We're looking at Maxi Domi... I mean, it's a huge drop off...

There would need to be a plan to get a new #3 forward i.e a Guentzel or Robert Thomas type. Because I don't see that happening, I think they should keep Marner.

I think we need to come to terms that we don't need 3 to 4 superstar players to win the cup. I rather we take a step back from being an offensive powerhouse team to an all rounder team.

Tre can still trade Marner for picks and prospects and then use some of the acquired assets to bring in a player like Pavel Buchnevich or someone else, while still have cap space to make an impactful signing.

 

[Americanadian]

Why would he get $3M+ in arb?

The only guys that usually jump that much are guys that put up big offensive numbers and Liljegren has not done that to this point.

I have him at 1 lx $1.9M or 2 x$2.5M max and at that point you keep him unless you somehow acquire 3 better RHD. No point in adding Tanev just to remove Liljegren for no reason.

He played over 19 minutes/game. That’s closer to 2nd pair than 3rd. He’s projected at 4M+ by both AFP and EvolvingHockey. He most likely gets 3+.

Assuming he gets 3, which he deserves, and the Leafs sign one more top 4D - why pay that much for a 3rd pair D who you don’t trust in the playoffs?

 

[OVO16]

I find it insane that neither Jarknkrok or Kampf has been traded yet

 

[BM14]

I find it insane that neither Jarknkrok or Kampf has been traded yet

Fun fact: you need a partner who wants the asset in order to trade!

 

[SprDaVE]

I'd prefer him over OEL I think.

https://x.com/i/web/status/1807429747699331397

 

[I am Canadian]

With this Tanev deal, I really hope the Leafs recognize that he can probably be a #4 for maybe the next 1-2 years.

After that, he needs to be on the bottom pair. I see no internal defenders who are going to be top 4 anytime some so they need to explore the trade market.

 

[CincoHolio]

I will go on the record. I am for Zadorov. I personally believe he will a fine 4D. I’m ok going over 5 million as well.

I predict he’s an instant fan favourite and exactly what this team needs. He’s getting better, not slowing down.

Agreed.

Tanev, Zadorov, McCabe, Benoit. That's a big, mean and hard to play against blue line. Add in players like Knies & Reaves on the front end and damn, the composition of this team all of the sudden looks mighty intimidating. I love it.

Folks need to head over to the Canucks and Stars boards and read what they have to say about Zadorov and Tanev respectively. IDK, sure sounds like 2 guys both teams near desperately wanted to keep around and figure hard to replace - in particular Zadorov. Both Berube type players too. Don't care about the grumbles around here, I'm thoroughly excited by Tre's supposed targets.

 

[Puckstuff]

I think we need to come to terms that we don't need 3 to 4 superstar players to win the cup. I rather we take a step back from being an offensive powerhouse team to an all rounder team.

Tre can still trade Marner for picks and prospects and then use some of the acquired assets to bring in a player like Pavel Buchnevich or someone else, while still have cap space to make an impactful signing.

An all around team still has offence though. If we're trading Marner and letting Tavares go as everyone seems to want, our new 3rd best forward would need to be much better then Buchnevich.

The winner of the Stanley cup had 4 players aged 26-28 with 70+ points.

1. Reinhart - 94
2. Tkachuck - 88
3. Barkov - 80
4. Verhaeghe - 72

I don't think we're going to be able to get a 24-28 year old winger capable of 75+ points for Marner or else I would do the trade. I would trade Marner for Robert Thomas but not Buchnevich. But it's not happening so we may as well just keep Marner.

 

[I am Canadian]

I don't want to trade Marner for picks and prospects during the Matthews window. It makes no sense to me.

If the Leafs trade Marner, they need a new high end forward. Who would be the leafs 3rd best point getter after they axe Tavares and Marner? We're looking at Maxi Domi... I mean, it's a huge drop off...

There would need to be a plan to get a new #3 forward i.e a Guentzel or Robert Thomas type. Because I don't see that happening, I think they should keep Marner.

The Bruins kicked our asses with only pastranak having more than 70 points.

Nylander and Matthews are good for 80-100+ points a year.

Vegas had only one PPG player in their winning season.

Replacing Marner with a guy like DeBrusk, Bertuzzi etc in addition to getting actual defenders will be a positive.

Mitch's 90+ points don't mean anything when it doesn't work in the playoffs

 

[TheDoldrums]

Do you realize than Roy bring absolutly nothing more than Mccabe except he's a RHD?

a RHD McCabe would be great tho? We'd actually have 4 defensemen worthy of being in a top 4 for the first time in the cap era

Florida did the exact same shit with Huberdeau. President trophy win, they get embarrassed, they recognize that the way they play wont work, and dumped the guy that just scored 115 points and set the assist record for LW because they knew he couldnt cut it come post season time. And that move got them a cup and another final appearance so far.

Still blows my mind the amount of people that are cool with running it back

You guys are so scared of making any kind of change or risk. What do we literally have to lose lmao. Its not like we've been successful.

I don't think most people are cool with running it back, most just recognize Marner isn't waiving his NMC and would rather discuss the future rather than things that won't happen

 

[Apex Predator]

Tampa bay acquired Guentzels rights.

Has a team ever acquired a players right and not signed them?

 

[francis246]

Tampa bay acquired Guentzels rights.

Has a team ever acquired a players right and not signed them?

Yes quite a few times. Leafs did that with Evan Rodrigues lol

 

[thusk]

You honestly think theyre going to miss the playoffs by swapping serg with mcdonagh, gaining 8m from a poor 5 on 5 player and defensive liability, and possibly getting guentzel?

I know I for sure wouldnt bet on that happening.

difference sometime between be in playoff and missed it its like 3 game... we dont know what will happen

vegas finished 8th after winning the cup

last year, Florida was 1 win from pittsburgh vs chicago

We just dont know what could happen

 

[DarkKnight]

Love Zadorov, but if what he’s asking for is true, hard pass.

 

[SprDaVE]

Tampa bay acquired Guentzels rights.

Has a team ever acquired a players right and not signed them?

For a 3rd... That's a high price to get him 1 day early.

It's rare players of that stature dont sign after getting acquired.

 

[thusk]

a RHD McCabe would be great tho? We'd actually have 4 defensemen worthy of being in a top 4 for the first time in the cap era



I don't think most people are cool with running it back, most just recognize Marner isn't waiving his NMC and would rather discuss the future rather than things that won't happen

Trading mccabe at 2M to get a RHD mccabe at 6M???

 

[Apex Predator]

Yes quite a few times. Leafs did that with Evan Rodrigues lol

Of course the first example is the leafs lol

 

[francis246]

Gretzky was traded, you can’t trade a more talented player so Friedman is out to lunch on this topic…….

That was in a pre-cap world. It’s not even the same thing.

 

[Burnie97]

f*** Tampa