Trades & Free Agency Thread: 2024-2025 Season Edition

[ULF_55]

Do you mean use Nylanders number?
Marner is still signed, his money wasn’t available for those players. Nylanders could have been.

Edit - like Roo says. No idea how that got quoted

And Nylander was signed way before July 1st. so no one was available to move on from.

 

[WTFMAN99]

Coaches call

I wouldn't shed a tear over any of those guys including Kampf


Throw Kampf in there as well as guys I don't care about

I was hoping Holmberg would make Kampf replaceable but had some rough looks on the PK.

 

[conFABulator]

It depends on who you ask; some say it doesn't matter who Liljegren is with "he's just bad'. Mostly because they remember him getting pushed over against Boston. Like I said, no one remembers the spell when Rielly was suspended.

But if the way to compensate for or allay any concerns about his lack of aggressivity is to put him with McCabe to start, getting McCabe back on his strong side is also a plus.

It's the best way to use these 8 defencemen, IMO.

It's funny you say that, I do clearly remember the period when Reilly was out and this is why I had hope for Lilly. I had him penciled in beside OEL on our second pairing all off-season. I worry that he is not a Berube guy and that happens, new coaching casualties.

I still want to see OEL and Lily and that leaves Benoit, Myers, or Hakanpaa beside McCabe.

 

[Rare Jewel]

It's funny you say that, I do clearly remember the period when Reilly was out and this is why I had hope for Lilly. I had him penciled in beside OEL on our second pairing all off-season. I worry that he is not a Berube guy and that happens, new coaching casualties.

I still want to see OEL and Lily and that leaves Benoit, Myers, or Hakanpaa beside McCabe.

It's likely the case, which is why even though I'm vouching for him, I expect he'll be moved.

 

[conFABulator]

It's likely the case, which is why even though I'm vouching for him, I expect he'll be moved.

Yeah, same.

I do wonder how much "message sending" to specific players and to the team might be going on too.

It's only been three games. Do they want something from Lilly that they believe he has, but hasn't shown yet? Is having him behind Timmins and Benoit a wake up call? I don't know and I am just reaching. It does seem like either move him now or play him. It's not like our bottom pairing guys are playing great and TL's value is dropping by the daym

 

[ACC1224]

And Nylander was signed way before July 1st. so no one was available to move on from.

Yes they chose to sign him instead of saving the money for UFA that summer, that was the whole point. That option wasn’t there with Marner.

 

[Puckstuff]

Honestly would rather have Justin Holl straight up for liljegren (wings retain 400k). Both players have one more year left, Holl was fine in a bottom pairing role and on the pk.
At this point I'm sure both would welcome a change of scenery.

Rielly Tanev
OEL McCabe
Benoit Holl

If we’re going back in history then I’d circle back on Cody Ceci once San Jose eliminates them selves by the deadline. Getting Ceci + Granlund out of San Jose would be a coup if we can dump Lilly, Jarnkrok and Kampf for cap space. Both are free agents so getting retention should be fine.

This core would be ridiculous and can’t be matched by anyone, except maybe Edmonton.

Matthews-Domi
Granlund-Nylander
Tavares-Marner

Rielly—Tanev
McCabe-Ceci
OEL-Hakanpaa

Woll/Stolarz

 

[conFABulator]

It’s more of a market value comparable and more like what his actual market value is vs paying a premium because it’s Toronto.

He said he’d take less, and $11.5 was an overpay.

Would send a clear message that if someone wants to be here, you will be paid but it has to make sense.

Not onboard, need a gross overpay? GTFO.

I would like Nylander and everyone for less too. If we let Nylander walk this past off-season how specifically are we spending that $11.5M to be a better team?

That's what you have to be prepared to answer because there is no guarantee Willy signs here for less.

 

[Kiwi]

I was hoping Holmberg would make Kampf replaceable but had some rough looks on the PK.

I think that's one of those jobs you get better at the more you do it, Kampf didn't look like a world beater last season on the PK either

I'd rather strap Elon to it instead, actually.


Anyway, if Detroit wants to move him and get Liljegren, that'll cost a 1st+.

Hate to tell you but he's probably the best entrepreneur we've seen in the last half century

Yeah they ain't doing that

 

[LeafChief]

If we’re going back in history then I’d circle back on Cody Ceci once San Jose eliminates them selves by the deadline. Getting Ceci + Granlund out of San Jose would be a coup if we can dump Lilly, Jarnkrok and Kampf for cap space. Both are free agents so getting retention should be fine.

This core would be ridiculous and can’t be matched by anyone, except maybe Edmonton.

Matthews-Domi
Granlund-Nylander
Tavares-Marner

Rielly—Tanev
McCabe-Ceci
OEL-Hakanpaa

Woll/Stolarz

Why in the f*** would we want to add Ceci to this team?

 

[All Mod Cons]

If we’re going back in history then I’d circle back on Cody Ceci once San Jose eliminates them selves by the deadline. Getting Ceci + Granlund out of San Jose would be a coup if we can dump Lilly, Jarnkrok and Kampf for cap space. Both are free agents so getting retention should be fine.

This core would be ridiculous and can’t be matched by anyone, except maybe Edmonton.

Matthews-Domi
Granlund-Nylander
Tavares-Marner

Rielly—Tanev
McCabe-Ceci
OEL-Hakanpaa

Woll/Stolarz

Cody Ceci?

In one thread we've had calls to bring back Justin Holl and Cody Ceci. I think we're broken as a fanbase.

 

[meefer]

Cody Ceci?

In one thread we've had calls to bring back Justin Holl and Cody Ceci. I think we're broken as a fanbase.

I liked your comment, but it was a toss-up between the thumbs up or the laughing tears emoji. Justin and Codi…OMG

 

[Gabriel426]

Cody Ceci?

In one thread we've had calls to bring back Justin Holl and Cody Ceci. I think we're broken as a fanbase.

I will say adding Barrie will be key to our Cup hope, lol.

 

[Rare Jewel]

Hate to tell you but he's probably the best entrepreneur we've seen in the last half century

Yeah they ain't doing that

Good for him; that's not how I like to judge people.

I could tolerate him when he was just a Tony Stark wannabe, but he's got a new dimension now that's more narcissistic and misguided.



Anyway, yeah, Detroit will likely say no.

 

[LeafSteel]

#bringbackAkiBerg

 

[OVO16]

when is Hakanpaa and Dewar eligible to come off IR?

 

[conFABulator]

when is Hakanpaa and Dewar eligible to come off IR?

8 more games l believe. That will be 11 games but the minimum number of days required.

 

[Lightsol]

I was hoping Holmberg would make Kampf replaceable but had some rough looks on the PK.

What catches my attention is that Berube is barely using Kampf on the PK. Which strongly suggests he might be on the way out, because as a fourth liner he has to bring something beyond "good defensively", and without PK'ing, he's not. And then you remember he's making more than the entire third line...

 

[Dreakmur]

What catches my attention is that Berube is barely using Kampf on the PK. Which strongly suggests he might be on the way out, because as a fourth liner he has to bring something beyond "good defensively", and without PK'ing, he's not. And then you remember he's making more than the entire third line...

It appears that they are experimenting a bit. They want to see if Holmberg can replace Kampf for less money.

If Kampf's not going to be the top PKer, he's not worth that money. I think he's easily the best PKer on this team, but if Berube doesn't, they should be moving him.

 

[arso40]

What catches my attention is that Berube is barely using Kampf on the PK. Which strongly suggests he might be on the way out, because as a fourth liner he has to bring something beyond "good defensively", and without PK'ing, he's not. And then you remember he's making more than the entire third line...

Clearly he’s the cap clear imo at the moment anyway either that or he’s developing holmberg but with minten in the wing also Kampf looks like his days are really numbered

 

[LeafParade]

Between Holmberg, and Minten playing in the AHL, I would move Kampf ASAP.

Once a player's playing time or role decreases so does his value.

 

[darrylsittler27]

Myers, Rifai, and even Timmins are better value players than Lilly, I’m really hoping they can trade him soon because his value will only go down if he’s in the line up. He’s going to be this year’s Brodie if given the chance……..


Addition by subtraction……..

Part of the Leafs magic formula is fantasing about how Lily , a cap dump is worth something like an effective 2c. So then we package Kampf, Jarnkrok, Lily and pretend someone would pay more. Our best bet to get a cup is to trade Tavares for Crosby..

Between Holmberg, and Minten playing in the AHL, I would move Kampf ASAP.

Once a player's playing time or role decreases so does his value.

There is not much demand for 2.4 million 4C or a 3 million 7D or a Jarnkrok.

 

[Clark4Ever]

Even with diminishing returns, the true value in moving the likes of Kampf, Jarnkrok and potentially Liljegren would be the cap space that is freed up. 7-8 million combined is substantial for 3 players that are redundant on the roster at this point.

 

[rumman]

Part of the Leafs magic formula is fantasing about how Lily , a cap dump is worth something like an effective 2c. So then we package Kampf, Jarnkrok, Lily and pretend someone would pay more. Our best bet to get a cup is to trade Tavares for Crosby..


There is not much demand for 2.4 million 4C or a 3 million 7D or a Jarnkrok.

I gave never suggested Lilly would return anything near a second line centre, in fact the statement “addition by subtraction” pretty much tells you how much I think Lilly would return…….

 

[darrylsittler27]

I gave never suggested Lilly would return anything near a second line centre, in fact the statement “addition by subtraction” pretty much tells you how much I think Lilly would return…….

Ok now call Dumbass and trade Tavares for Crosby, then we are contenders. Right now I think they could win 2 rounds depending on health and draw. This team/lineup won't win 3 rounds.