GDT: Trades & Free Agency -- Off-season edition

[Jimmy Firecracker]

If Marner had even 10% of the stones Wilson does he just might be worth most of his cap hit

Tom Wilson of 5 years ago? Hell yeah. Tom Wilson today and in the future? Hard pass. Power forwards age terribly and Wilson is already on the decline. Stones or not we can't use our best trade chip (assuming Mitch even waives) on a 30 year old power-forward on the back 9 of his career with a cap hit of $6.5 million per season until 2031.

 

[Rude Dog]

Rumour is Debrusk for 6m.

That is awful. This is what worries me with getting cap room by trading Marner. Spending it foolishly

 

[Kiwi]

That is awful. This is what worries me with getting cap room by trading Marner. Spending it foolishly

You can almost guarantee we make at least one gigantic mistake

Honestly I'd like them to fall asleep until day 3 of free agency and then start looking for players

 

[Jimmy Firecracker]

Rumour is Debrusk for 6m.

Yeah this is the biggest difference between DeBrusk and Bertuzzi. DeBrusk would cost more and while he is younger I'm not sure the difference for that is $1 million or more against the cap.

 

[Roo]

Not sure why we would be pursuing Debrusk, he’s not that good. At $6m that is just ewww.

 

[ULF_55]

I don't like this. you?

https://x.com/i/web/status/1803598352350679269

Tampering?

Is this not a thing?

 

[LaPlante94]

Once again these insiders are saying we're interested in every FA on the market to get some impressions. I guess if you name off every FA and one of them does sign you can claim you were the first to report interest.

About DeBrusk I can see us giving him and Bertuzzi the same contract offer and see who wants it. Don't really think either should get more than 5.25 tbh. I'd say Barbashev is a fair comparable and I believe 5.25 would equal to what his deal is today.

 

[TheMadHatTrick]

Eww @ Debrusk for 6 million. Just sign Bertuzzi. At least Bert already has had time to acclimate to Toronto. Plus Debrusk has never tallied more than 50 points in any season.

 

[Kiwi]

Eww @ Debrusk for 6 million. Just sign Bertuzzi. At least Bert already has had time to acclimate to Toronto. Plus Debrusk has never tallied more than 50 points in any season.

Don't sign either, both of them are going to be overpaid

**** UFA, all I see is landmines right now

 

[Brobust]

Tampering?

Is this not a thing?

The didn't punish the Oilers over Hyman but they may punish the leafs.

 

[TMLAM34]

I’d rather we just re-sign Bertuzzi over DeBrusk but I’d be fine with either player. I do think DeBrusk has a little more to given than what we’ve seen from him and playing with either Matthews or Nylander could unlock that.

 

[Malachi Crunch]

I know people are down on Bertuzzi, but you have to remember that he stunk for the first half of the year and still managed to get 21 goals. Him getting 30 goes next year is not out of the question. In fact, given his chemistry with Matthews, I kind of expect it. 30 goal scorers are not a dime a dozen And we’re gonna need those goals when Marner is traded.

 

[stats1]

Signing DeBrusk and possibly Bertuzzi and Domi doesn’t make sense unless you’re working on a Marner trade. Why are we wasting more cap on a winger. We have massive holes on D and in net

Sign DeBrusk, trade Marner to Vegas for Theodore, Thompson+?

 

[Malachi Crunch]

Signing DeBrusk and possibly Bertuzzi and Domi doesn’t make sense unless you’re working on a Marner trade. Why are we wasting more cap on a winger. We have massive holes on D and in net

Sign DeBrusk, trade Marner to Vegas for Theodore, Thompson+?

I think you nailed it on the head. Marner is
getting traded. I think that’s why we’re supposedly in on all the UFA wingers lately.

 

[stats1]

I think you nailed it on the head. Marner is
getting traded. I think that’s why we’re supposedly in on all the UFA wingers lately.

That’s what I’m guessing. It makes zero sense giving DeBrusk 5-6 million/signing Bertuzzi/Domi and neglecting the net and D.

 

[Burnie97]

I think you nailed it on the head. Marner is
getting traded. I think that’s why we’re supposedly in on all the UFA wingers lately.

Yeah. Reading between the lines... if we really are in on all of these wingers... it's looking more like Marner is traded and the media saying he's not going to be forsure... is just to keep his value higher.

In the end who knows but seems to make sense.

 

[Trapper]

That’s what I’m guessing. It makes zero sense giving DeBrusk 5-6 million/signing Bertuzzi/Domi and neglecting the net and D.

This is assuming they are signing them all.
It might be plan A, plan B, etc.
They may be looking at 3 players to determine who they can get for the dollars and term they want.

Domi may want too much, they may like Bertuzzi but feel if they are going to go 5 million for multiple years Debrusk is the better long term solution because he is younger.

 

[BertCorbeau]

I like Debrusk’s speed which would fit Berube’s north-south style and ability to get up on the forecheck

 

[Torontonian]

Arvidsson probably has the best 'bang for buck' potential in the market. Might be had for under 5m on a medium term with potential to be a very strong top-six.

Yes, Arvidsson is someone Toronto should be looking into, I don't think he sniffs higher then what he makes now. You can probably get two players that can get as many points as Bert/Domi/Debrusk playing on the top line and in the 3rd line role for cheaper then the 3 I just mentioned. All 3 of them had 43,47,41 points each and want 5m in the open market? No shot I'd pay any of them that.

Arvidsson
Duclair
Mantha
Pacioretty
Olafsson
Perron

 

[hullsy47]

I guess it's time to start fresh for all the crazy madness people wanna throw out there. Let's start with:

Not a sure any high thought of free agent will commit to toronto until the marner circus is either puy to bed either way
I mean im already tired of the DAILY DREGER show
The leafs just are a mess .how dubas and shanahan are still working is amazing
But unless toronto is the place your ckient dreamed of as a kid ,i think most will pass ,the marner scrutiny has a half million fans wanting him gone
Not worth it if im montour or tanev

 

[Trapper]

Not a sure any high thought of free agent will commit to toronto until the marner circus is either puy to bed either way
I mean im already tired of the DAILY DREGER show
The leafs just are a mess .how dubas and shanahan are still working is amazing
But unless toronto is the place your ckient dreamed of as a kid ,i think most will pass ,the marner scrutiny has a half million fans wanting him gone
Not worth it if im montour or tanev

We are really limited to free agents until the Marner issue is resolved. It will determine who you can and can’t pursue UFA. You may want 2 top 4 D, a 2nd line centre and a goalie, but you have to do that assuming Marner and 11 million is staying right now.

 

[JEI]

I think the fact Bertuzzis's agent came out speaking about how they've discussed contracts but the Leafs have more pressing issues at the moment (paraphrasing) tells me their either Trying to figure out the Marner stuff or anticipating going after some top UFA defensemen and then seeing what's left for cash with Marner on the roster.

There is a world where they can spend 7.5m on a defenseman and get another for 5-6m while also finding a tandem for Woll around 2-3m.

 

[stats1]

This is assuming they are signing them all.
It might be plan A, plan B, etc.
They may be looking at 3 players to determine who they can get for the dollars and term they want.

Domi may want too much, they may like Bertuzzi but feel if they are going to go 5 million for multiple years Debrusk is the better long term solution because he is younger.

I think Bertuzzi will be squeezed if they sign DeBrusk. Might not want to take another short term deal or pay cut to stay

 

[aingefan]

@ToneDog mentioned Debrusk not long ago and I think signing him would be a great move for us over Bertuzzi. Like to see that for sure.

I like moves that help the team and thin the competition.

 

[Trapper]

I like Debrusk’s speed which would fit Berube’s north-south style and ability to get up on the forecheck

I do as well. I like a Matthews/Debrusk and Knies/Nylander 2 line punch.
Good mix of skill/straight line.