GDT: Trades & Free Agency -- Off-season edition

[Dion TheFluff]

There is a good chance that the team that wins the Cup this season isn't going to have the traditional elite number one defenseman that others have traditionally had. Dallas doesn't, Florida doesn't, Edmonton doesn't - then it's a question of whether Fox or Hughes fall into that category (hard to argue against Hughes). At least one or two of the guys on potential Cup winners are likely going to be Leafs next season (Montour, Zadorov and Tanev).

Heiskanen??

 

[aingefan]

I've warmed up to this idea. I didn't realize Tomasino was from Mississauga. Sometimes, an "immaturity" issue could be homesickness. Not everyone is ready to leave home at 17 or 18. Being back home could help him both get support and a kick in the ass from family members. He's got all the tools to be a Top 6 forward.

Fabbro, like Lilly, has shown signs that he can play high in the line-up. Maybe it's as simple as a fresh start/new coach/new system for him to reach his potential.

Saros - I'm higher on him than others in this thread. I keep hearing about his size. That would be a concern if he was a prospect, but he's played 9 years in the NHL! That's a massive sample size. He's been over a .900 save percentage for 8 of the 9 years, which includes the last 3 where he's played over 60 games. I mean, there should not be any worry about his size or ability level at this point in time.

I’m on board with Tomasino and Fabbri as buy low candidates.
Same with Morgan Frost.

 

[Evilhomer]

Heiskanen??

I'm not quite there with him yet.

 

[ACC1224]

Where do people realistically think Rielly waives to go? For all players I default to hometown (VAN) or one of the 4 desired markets (DAL, VGK, FLA, TB) and you can maybe include NSH. Of those 6 teams the only one that makes any sense for Rielly is VAN. DAL/TB/NSH/VGK already have 2 high paid LD. FLA has cap troubles and would most likely rather pay Ekblad and Montour 7.5M than being in Rielly. SEA would be close to home and they also have no state tax but they also have LD depth. VAN could have a real hole at 2LD next season if Zadorov walks.

Curious what other teams people think Rielly would be willing to go to.

Detroit? Pretty sure his wife is from Windsor.

 

[SprDaVE]

Seravalli thinks Zadorov might want/get 6x6M for his next deal.

 

[LeafParade]

I’m on board with Tomasino and Fabbri as buy low candidates.
Same with Morgan Frost.

This is a good list, but is Frost really available?

Tomasino is in and out of the lineup, I think he could be had cheap.

 

[Avilaj07]

With Necas looking like his time in Carolina is over, I wonder if we could put together a package for him. Still young at only 25 years old, right handed shot center who could really solidify our top 6. Carolina is looking for a top 4 rhd and wing options.

To Toronto-
Martin Necas

To Carolina-
Timothy Liljegren
Calle Jarnkrok
Nick Robertson

 

[ToneDog]

Marner (extended at 12M per for 8 years)

for

Brady Tkachuk

9 guaranteed years of Marner for 4 guaranteed years of Tkachuk. Tkachuk hasn't led the Senators to the playoffs and Marner has struggled to get the Leafs out of the first round. Ottawa could use some help getting into the playoffs and making playoff revenue and Toronto might like a complimentary power forward to add to their skill up front.

I doubt any team is paying him $12mx8, especially Ottawa.

With Necas looking like his time in Carolina is over, I wonder if we could put together a package for him. Still young at only 25 years old, right handed shot center who could really solidify our top 6. Carolina is looking for a top 4 rhd and wing options.

To Toronto-
Martin Necas

To Carolina-
Timothy Liljegren
Calle Jarnkrok
Nick Robertson

That would be highway robbery IMO.

 

[Torontonian]

Seravalli thinks Zadorov might want/get 6x6M for his next deal.

I feel sorry for whoever has a GM that thinks thats a good deal for him.

I'm not quite there with him yet.

Then you haven't watched enough Dallas, guy is elite.

 

[Magic Man]

I doubt any team is paying him $12mx8, especially Ottawa.


That would be highway robbery IMO.

I figured there would be an Ottawa tax applied. If he was going to waive and sign an extension there they would have to pay FA prices. There is no tax advantage and he is a UFA in a year with a NMC. He is coming off an 11M dollar contract and will likely seek a raise to play in Ontario.

 

[LeafParade]

With Necas looking like his time in Carolina is over, I wonder if we could put together a package for him. Still young at only 25 years old, right handed shot center who could really solidify our top 6. Carolina is looking for a top 4 rhd and wing options.

To Toronto-
Martin Necas

To Carolina-
Timothy Liljegren
Calle Jarnkrok
Nick Robertson

Necas wants to be on the 1st line and 1st unit powerplay, and also that offer does not get it done.

 

[TMLAM34]

Detroit? Pretty sure his wife is from Windsor.

Born in London but raised in Windsor. A Rielly - Seider pair would be real nice. I wish the Wings would do a Marner for Seider deal but that’s wishful thinking.

With Necas looking like his time in Carolina is over, I wonder if we could put together a package for him. Still young at only 25 years old, right handed shot center who could really solidify our top 6. Carolina is looking for a top 4 rhd and wing options.

To Toronto-
Martin Necas

To Carolina-
Timothy Liljegren
Calle Jarnkrok
Nick Robertson

He hasn’t played much center for Carolina and when he has, he’s sucked in the circle. You’re better off moving Nylander in the middle if you’re trying to address the second line center position.

 

[Burnie97]

Seravalli thinks Zadorov might want/get 6x6M for his next deal.

Don't want him then. Way too much.

4.5 max but some GM will get stupid like usual. Hopefully not Tre.

 

[TMLAM34]

I’m leaning towards trying to facilitate a three way trade that involves Vegas with Theodore coming to Toronto, Marner going to Vegas (players always seem to waive to go to Vegas) and Chicago retaining 50% of Marners contract.

 

[Dreakmur]

No, it's a must

Improving the culture is great but you don't win the Kentucky Derby on a donkey, you still need horses

Individual sports and team sports are very different. Talent is a lot more important when you don’t have to worry about team dynamics.

 

[BM14]

Marner for Rantanen…who says no and why?

 

[Sypher04]

Marner for Rantanen…who says no and why?

Rantanen is cheaper, and better imo with a more well rounded offensive skillset. Easy no for Avs. No slight intended to Marner who is also a great player.

 

[Americanadian]

Detroit? Pretty sure his wife is from Windsor.

I like the idea although Detroit is in cap trouble. Leafs might have to take Holl back in the deal.

 

[ToneDog]

I figured there would be an Ottawa tax applied. If he was going to waive and sign an extension there they would have to pay FA prices. There is no tax advantage and he is a UFA in a year with a NMC. He is coming off an 11M dollar contract and will likely seek a raise to play in Ontario.

Yeah, but I doubt anybody is giving him a raise. See Johnny Hockey.

 

[Americanadian]

Improving the culture is great but you don't win the Kentucky Derby on a donkey, you still need horses

FWIW Berube is the only coach to win a cup without a point per game forward (regular season and playoffs) since Claude Julien in 2011.

 

[ToneDog]

Marner for Rantanen…who says no and why?

Sakic and Mack. Ranta has 13 points (7 goals) in 12 elimination games. Doubt Marner is close. Ranta also cheaper and has more remaining term.

 

[rumman]

Where do people realistically think Rielly waives to go? For all players I default to hometown (VAN) or one of the 4 desired markets (DAL, VGK, FLA, TB) and you can maybe include NSH. Of those 6 teams the only one that makes any sense for Rielly is VAN. DAL/TB/NSH/VGK already have 2 high paid LD. FLA has cap troubles and would most likely rather pay Ekblad and Montour 7.5M than being in Rielly. SEA would be close to home and they also have no state tax but they also have LD depth. VAN could have a real hole at 2LD next season if Zadorov walks.

Curious what other teams people think Rielly would be willing to go to.

Seattle

 

[Fogelhund]

I'm not quite there with him yet.

He’s a very good D man. Certainly a #1.


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I’m still in the camp of moving Marner for forwards plus pick and signing D men. There are quite a few D men available this year.

Marner for Wright + 1st
Marner, Kampf, Jarnkrok for Crouse, McBain + 1st.

You could end up with Lindstrom or Silayev with the Utah pick or Dickinson with the Seattle pick.

 

[rumman]

FWIW Berube is the only coach to win a cup without a point per game forward (regular season and playoffs) since Claude Julien in 2011.

Prefer a team where the cap is evenly distributed……

 

[Americanadian]

Seattle

I mentioned them but they don't have room for him unless Oleksiak is coming back.

I would sign up for Rielly for Oleksiak in a heartbeat.

Prefer a team where the cap is evenly distributed……

It seems people on this board are finally coming to that realization.