GDT: Trades & Free Agency -- Off-season edition

[aingefan]

Dobber -

Lindholm $7.96
Stephenson - $5.4
Monahan - $2.93

That Lindholm one seems high and the Monahan one a lil low.
Lindholm with the offensive dip, Monahan with the healthy year.

 

[Punch Drunk Loov]

You would have to full court press woo the hell out of Keith Tkachuk and family with Treliving (good relations with Matthew) and Berube (Blues credibility) plus Shanahan (contemporary of Tkachuk, ex-Blues icon). Bit of a long shot but Brady Tkachuk would definitely re-energize this build.

I would do cart wheels if Brady came here. That kind of heart and soul WITH skill is a short list. Usually you need to pick between skill or grind

 

[Malachi Crunch]

Tweet not working for me

I found the original source of the rumour. It's from a St. Louis Blues radio hit by Jeremy Rutherford. You can hear the discussion just after the 5 minute mark.

The Athletic’s Blues insider Jeremy Rutherford – 101 ESPN

JR joins the show to talk about his interview with Tom Stillman, the messaging coming out from the Blues about how the TV revenue won't affect on-ice moves, if

www.101espn.com

 

[LeafsFan89]

Lol. No way we get B. Tkachuk. Ottawa would never trade him, especially to the Leafs. And for what? No way Marner would waive to go to Ottawa lol.

 

[rumman]

I’d drive Marner to Ottawa myself for that deal.

See, the culture is already changing from selfishness to helping others relocate……..

 

[Trapper]

See, the culture is already changing from selfishness to helping others relocate……..

And in the spirit of helping, I would even consider letting him ride inside the car.

 

[rumman]

Domi came off an even better season last year scoring 20 goals and a pretty good playoffs. He only managed to sign a 1-year $3 mill AAV contract. He scored 9 goals with the Leafs and now the Leafs should pay him $4.5 mill AAV for term?? That doesn’t make any sense.

I’m not saying he won’t get that contract but I hate how he’s worth more now just because he played for the Leafs.

I liked Domi at $3 mill AAV. I know I’m going to hate Domi at $4.5+ mill AAV for term. The expectations are different.

This. I’d go higher than 3 mil, but definitely not into the 4 mil range, 3 mil times 4 year term is the midfle ground where player snd team can happily coexist imo…….

I bet he'd fit in the trunk fam

Come on, Gods don’t ride in trunks……

 

[613Leafer]

Lol. No way we get B. Tkachuk. Ottawa would never trade him, especially to the Leafs. And for what? No way Marner would waive to go to Ottawa lol.

Yep. I've seen way too many trade proposals with Marner going to Ottawa, Columbus, Calgary, Buffalo, Utah, etc. I really see no reason at all to expect Marner to waive for those destinations.

 

[Magic Man]

Lol. No way we get B. Tkachuk. Ottawa would never trade him, especially to the Leafs. And for what? No way Marner would waive to go to Ottawa lol.

Ottawa would give Mitch 12M per for him to stay. Mitch only has to move a few hours east. Tkachuk is going to walk in 4 years, if Mitch re-signs he will be there for 9 years.

9 years of a 90-100 point player that will almost certainly bring them to the playoffs on a yearly basis. Tkachuk should help the Leafs advance in the playoffs, Marner will bring the Senators to the playoffs. It is a win/win. The term favours Ottawa.

 

[ULF_55]

Yep. I've seen way too many trade proposals with Marner going to Ottawa, Columbus, Calgary, Buffalo, Utah, etc. I really see no reason at all to expect Marner to waive for those destinations.

Why would he waive for any destination when he's living his dream?

 

[Americanadian]

Liljegren for Cates

Cates appears to have fallen out of favor with the Flyers but his underlying numbers remain elite. He went from being listed at 6'2 165 lbs in 22-23 to 194 lbs in 23-24. He saw a significant decrease in ice time and offensive production this season. He was moved out to the wing for most of the season after playing C in his rookie year. He was 4th in ES defense WAR this season amongst centers behind Barkov, Drury and Dickinson. Unlike the Leafs defensive centers of the past, there appears to be some offense here:



Philly have a hole at 2/3RD, both players are the same age/draft.

 

[ToneDog]

Lol. No way we get B. Tkachuk. Ottawa would never trade him, especially to the Leafs. And for what? No way Marner would waive to go to Ottawa lol.

Doubt Sens also would be interested in paying him $100m. I know I wouldn't.

Why would he waive for any destination when he's living his dream?

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[Malachi Crunch]

Ottawa would give Mitch 12M per for him to stay. Mitch only has to move a few hours east. Tkachuk is going to walk in 4 years, if Mitch re-signs he will be there for 9 years.

9 years of a 90-100 point player that will almost certainly bring them to the playoffs on a yearly basis. Tkachuk should help the Leafs advance in the playoffs, Marner will bring the Senators to the playoffs. It is a win/win. The term favours Ottawa.

I completely agree with you. Also, if you are Ottawa management and want to lessen the rage of Ottawa fans from losing Tkachuk, Marner would be your best bet. My Ottawa friends love Marner. Win/win.

 

[Fogelhund]

That Lindholm one seems high and the Monahan one a lil low.
Lindholm with the offensive dip, Monahan with the healthy year.

We shall see on Lindholm. He's the top UFA C this year... on merit he deserves less, supply and demand might see him get there.

Monahan is an interesting one. How much do you pay a guy, who really has become a 3C, and power play specialist? No physicality to his game.... From a Leafs perspective, I look at it and wonder... what would we pay him... and then I think, he's just not a player that moves the needle for me at all. 1 point in the playoffs.... I mean, if he can come in at a 3C price, then he's got some value... but someone will pay him more, hoping for more. I think his final contract won't be much higher... maybe $3.5 if someone really likes him. I think $3 mil is entirely fair.

 

[weems]

Daily Faceoff AFP projected salaries

 

[Americanadian]

Daily Faceoff AFP projected salaries

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AFP Analytics released their final salary projections for 24-25 this week, of note:

Leafs:
Domi 2x3.6M
Bertuzzi 4x5.3M
Dewar 2x1.4M
Edmundson 2x1.7M
Liljegren 4x4.1M
Lyubushkin 2x1.5M
Robertson 2x1.4M

Notable UFA:
Montour 6x7.7M
Lindholm 5x6.75M
Pesce 5x6.25M
Roy 5x5.8M
Tanev 3x4.5M
Zadorov 5x5.3M
Debrusk 5x5.8M
Demelo 4x5.3M
Arvidsson 3x4.75M
Carrier 3x4M
Foegele 3x3.9M
Chatfield 4x3.65M
Joshua 4x3.25M
Trenin 3x2.55M
Stolarz 2x2.2M
Brossoit 2x2.1M

 

[notdoneyet]

I tried to play around on cap friendly as an exercise if we did run it back and to only resign: Domi, Robertson, Lilly, DeWar, Lyubushkin and the team is just painfully "fine".

There is some cap for a UFA defenseman or goalie but it's nothing inspiring and a very meh looking crew with not a ton of identity

Do the same with trading janrok and kampf
Lots of space to make an impact

 

[ULF_55]

Daily Faceoff AFP projected salaries

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Leafs can probably afford one near the top or two near the bottom.

 

[thusk]

Tre better trade and not sign our Huberdeau.

Maybe leafs Huberdeau is already signed...I know some will hate this but without all freedom keefe gave up to their player and with a coach with a north/south system... that can change a lot of thing and not all necessairly for the best


Personally i think they're a risk than Berube becoming Nylander kryptonite. Maybe we will start to see a little bit more the nylander of Babcock era and less the nylander of last 3-4 years under keefe era. No body know. Thing can change pretty quickly and we just don't have any kind of idea than ehat's will happen in 1-2-3 years...

 

[ToneDog]

Maybe leafs Huberdeau is already signed...I know some will hate this but without all freedom keefe gave up to their player and with a coach with a north/south system... that can change a lot of thing and not all necessairly for the best


Personally i think they're a risk than Berube becoming Nylander kryptonite. Maybe we will start to see a little bit more the nylander of Babcock era and less the nylander of last 3-4 years under keefe era. No body know. Thing can change pretty quickly and we just don't have any kind of idea than ehat's will happen in 1-2-3 years...

Agreed not sure whether Nylander and Berube will mesh. Personally I'd love to move both 16 and 88 but nobody is taking that Nylander contract, let alone giving you much back now.

 

[Sypher04]

Personally i think they're a risk than Berube becoming Nylander kryptonite

Agreed not sure whether Nylander and Berube will mesh. Personally I'd love to move both 16 and 88 but nobody is taking that Nylander contract, let alone giving you much back now.

Based on what exactly?

 

[ULF_55]

AFP Analytics released their final salary projections for 24-25 this week, of note:

Leafs:
Domi 2x3.6M
Bertuzzi 4x5.3M
Dewar 2x1.4M
Edmundson 2x1.7M
Liljegren 4x4.1M
Lyubushkin 2x1.5M
Robertson 2x1.4M

Edmondson currently makes $3.5mm, I doubt he takes that large of a cut on salary.
Lyubushkin is coming off $2.75mm. I don't see a reduction in his future.

 

[ToneDog]

Based on what exactly?

Nylander's rep as a floater and Berube's rep as being a demanding coach.

 

[thusk]

Based on what exactly?

Nylander is kind of player pretty inconsistent with the level of commitment in his game and who played with liberty under Keefe. I don't think Berube will accept and close his eyes as much than Keefe every shift Nylander taking off defensively or in the forecheck

So that can maybe help nylander to reach an other gear and be his kryptonite. I heard a lot of comparaison between huberdeau and marner but sorry the way huberdeau had been playing, thats make no sense at all. Nylander is closer to huberdeau type of player than marner..

 

[ULF_55]

Maybe leafs Huberdeau is already signed...I know some will hate this but without all freedom keefe gave up to their player and with a coach with a north/south system... that can change a lot of thing and not all necessairly for the best


Personally i think they're a risk than Berube becoming Nylander kryptonite. Maybe we will start to see a little bit more the nylander of Babcock era and less the nylander of last 3-4 years under keefe era. No body know. Thing can change pretty quickly and we just don't have any kind of idea than ehat's will happen in 1-2-3 years...

Who knows, but a couple players score more and a couple rely on others to score.

Huberdea - 831 games :
Assists: 495
Goals: 225

Nylander - 603 games:
Assists: 311
Goals: 217

marner - 576 games
Assists: 445
Goals: 194

Matthews - 562 games
Assists: 281
Goals: 368