Blue Jays Discussion: Trades for Troy Tulowitzki .. And some other guy named David Price

[LaCarriere]

when wins are the currancy you look at WAR. You'll be lucky to get 2 WAR out of Price for the rest of the year, look at the post immediately below yours to see what a #5 guys brings.

Absolutely a Price is more valuable this year. That's why I said 1 of 3 things have to happen, win now(world series), re-sign price, or Norris not becomes a starter of any level.

If we don't win the world series, and price walks then even a #5 is more valuable when you're looking at 6 years versus 2 months we had of Price.

I generally agree with what you said, but Price has the potential to be worth probably closer to 4ish WAR to the Jays this year since that #5 spot was downright awful since Sanchez was injured.

That's still very catchable for 3 lefty pitching prospects with potential over 6 years of control though.

If the Jays don't at least go to the ALCS or preferably a WS appearance and he walks this trade can't be looked at as anything but a bust. A one game WC or 5 game ALDS series isn't good enough.

 

[GoodKiwi]

Has anyone here considered the financial ramifications should the Jays make the playoffs and win a round or two? Don't you think it's feasible the ownership took that into consideration when going all-in this trade deadline?

I don't know the numbers myself, but it's something that's been on my mind as a possible stimulus.

 

[Diamond Joe Quimby]

Players around the league are looking at this right now and wondering how they can be a part of this.

Even if Price doesn't stay the offseason should be fun.

I really feel like there is a decent chance to resign him IF the org is willing to commit to money and term. Meaning, his willingness to play in Toronto long term is there.

 

[tml19]

Has anyone here considered the financial ramifications should the Jays make the playoffs and win a round or two? Don't you think it's feasible the ownership took that into consideration when going all-in this trade deadline?

I don't know the numbers myself, but it's something that's been on my mind as a possible stimulus.

Just getting into the first round (win wildcard or winning the east) is enough to bring back Price financially IMO.

 

[Blitzkrug]

I love having Price here, but i don't think he's gonna be here for the long haul.

He has a LOT of connections in the Cubs organization. They also happen to have a boatload of money to get a guy to put alongside Lester.

But hey, maybe he falls in love with playing in Toronto and i'm proven wrong. I'd be alright with that.

 

[StuckOutHere]

Well, at least we get to talk to him first.

 

[GoodKiwi]

I love having Price here, but i don't think he's gonna be here for the long haul.

He has a LOT of connections in the Cubs organization. They also happen to have a boatload of money to get a guy to put alongside Lester.

But hey, maybe he falls in love with playing in Toronto and i'm proven wrong. I'd be alright with that.

Yes, I agree. In my mind he'll be either a Cub or a Dodger come the opening night of the next season.

 

[The Apologist]

Maybe we Jays fans need to show him why he NEEDS to be here...

 

[Eyedea]

Maybe we Jays fans need to show him why he NEEDS to be here...

He already knows why and it's the popcorn.

 

[Man Bear Pig]

Some people are talking about Stroman coming back to the rotation. If he comes back he'll be in the pen.

Normally, yes. In this specific case, maybe not. Stroman didn't hurt an elbow or shoulder, he hurt his knee. I don't think starting him comes with much risk. ACL surgery/recovery has come a long way in the last few years. Maybe start him in the pen as the long man and give him a few starts to finish the regular season.

 

[LaCarriere]

He already knows why and it's the popcorn.

Price will look like Colon by the end of an 8 year deal in Toronto.

 

[maketrades]

Just getting into the first round (win wildcard or winning the east) is enough to bring back Price financially IMO.

I agree, it would dramatically impact their attendance numbers next year to get playoff baseball back in Toronto.

 

[Scion]

I really feel like there is a decent chance to resign him IF the org is willing to commit to money and term. Meaning, his willingness to play in Toronto long term is there.

What is the highest figure that the Jays can pay and still realistically recieve positive value from the deal, assuming that every WAR Price produces for the next 3 years has leveraged value?

 

[Eyedea]

What is the highest figure that the Jays can pay and still realistically recieve positive value from the deal, assuming that every WAR Price produces for the next 3 years has leveraged value?

 

[Blitzkrug]

As far as him starting concerned, i think you sit him until the Twins series.

Win against KC = 0.5 game made up

Win against Minny = 1.0 game made up.

That Twins series could very well be the season as crazy is that is. Four game set, huge implications for the wild card.

 

[Suntouchable13]

As far as him starting concerned, i think you sit him until the Twins series.

Win against KC = 0.5 game made up

Win against Minny = 1.0 game made up.

That Twins series could very well be the season as crazy is that is. Four game set, huge implications for the wild card.

No it's not. I don't think the Yankees will stay up top. Do people really think that the division is already a lock to go to the Yankees?

 

[Shwaguy*]

**** it let's go get Shields and Kimbrel

 

[DaBolts]

Gang, you got a class act and one hell of a pitcher. Take it from a Tampa fan, you added at least 8 wins in the regular season and a lot more in the playoffs. Let's hope it's the Rays and Jays in and the Yankees at home.

FWIW, he's great with kids and youngsters too. You're really going to appreciate him as a fan, A LOT.

 

[varsaku]

We better make the playoffs after all these trades or I am going to cry.

 

[Sokil]

it really sucks that the canadian dollar blows right now..

 

[Hyperglide]

Really stoked for this trade. Hoping AA can lock him up long term. Seems like a pretty risky trade for a 2 month rental.

 

[maketrades]

No it's not. I don't think the Yankees will stay up top. Do people really think that the division is already a lock to go to the Yankees?

I agree, we shouldn't be shooting for the crapshoot wildcard game.

 

[Liminality]

Not the biggest baseball fan but this gets me excited to see some playoff baseball.



Sounds impressive

 

[Sokil]

I agree, we shouldn't be shooting for the crapshoot wildcard game.

they're hot right now but all streaks come to an end, hopefully its against us

 

[King Mapes]

Just getting into the first round (win wildcard or winning the east) is enough to bring back Price financially IMO.

Thing is, now we'll sell out much more often, even being in the race.