Blue Jays Discussion: Trades for Troy Tulowitzki .. And some other guy named David Price

[GoodKiwi]

This press conference starting soon?

Let me call AA and ask for you!

 

[Suntouchable13]

You guys are funny re the Yankees. The thing is they have a much better record than the Jays. The facts. Easier to play from their position. We have certainly increased our odds of a possible WC. 7 games is a lot to make up.

Screw the Yankees. Yes, they do have a better record. How? I don't know. They are not a great team. Every single guy in our clubhouse believes we can overtake them. That's how it should be. You think Bautista, Donaldson, Tulo, Price, Martin are settling for a wild card spot? Hell no! They are coming after the geriatric squad!

 

[LaCarriere]

+ we have 13 games vs. Yankees.
if we win those series, and catch up somewhere else...

Even if they go 8-5 in those games against them they only make up 3 of the 7 games they are back.

If your banking on those games to make up ground they almost need to go 9-4 or 10-3 against them, which is pretty tough.

 

[Longshot]

I'm reading the Yankees have lost Pineda.

What happened? Is it serious?

 

[Cor]

Shi Davidi once again hinted at a possible Left Field addition.

He through out the name Ben Revere this time.

 

[p.l.f.]

AA now

 

[Longshot]

This seems hard to believe:

Jays rotation ERA: 4.34

Yankees rotation ERA: 4.32.

Is their bullpen that big of a difference?

 

[canucksfan]

If Price leaves for FA do the Jays get a pick?

 

[Longshot]

I love AA's logic:

"We always look to get players under control, but that doesn't mean you walk away from David Price."

 

[GoodKiwi]

This seems hard to believe:

Jays rotation ERA: 4.34

Yankees rotation ERA: 4.32.

Is their bullpen that big of a difference?

Yes, it has been.

 

[Longshot]

If Price leaves for FA do the Jays get a pick?

They do not.

 

[Smif]

Shi Davidi once again hinted at a possible Left Field addition.

He through out the name Ben Revere this time.

Whoa, that'd be amazing...

 

[LaCarriere]

If Price leaves for FA do the Jays get a pick?

no, players traded mid-season don't come with compensation picks

 

[p.l.f.]

it was agreed at 3 am
bautista texted AA : "yes!!!!!!!"

 

[Longshot]

Bautista texted AA: "Is it true?"

AA: "Yes."

Bautista's response: "Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

 

[Mitchy]

But Bats is still not a #TrueLeader

 

[dubplatepressure]

How about that Dickey trade?

 

[inthe6ix]

This seems hard to believe:

Jays rotation ERA: 4.34

Yankees rotation ERA: 4.32.

Is their bullpen that big of a difference?

Yanks bullpen ERA: 3.22

Jays bullpen ERA: 3.40

 

[Canada4Gold]

This seems hard to believe:

Jays rotation ERA: 4.34

Yankees rotation ERA: 4.32.

Is their bullpen that big of a difference?

no not really

Jays bullpen: 3.40 ERA, 3.51 FIP, 3.41 xFIP

Yanks bullpen 3.22 ERA, 3.37 FIP, 3.36 xFIP

the timing of those runs has been bad though, causing a few 1 run losses, I'd say that's the biggest difference. Timing.

 

[TootooTrain]

If Price leaves for FA do the Jays get a pick?

No. Players traded mid-season aren't eligible for compensation picks.

 

[go_leafs_go02]

Love this!!!

 

[Nasty Nazem]

Seems like if Jays make anymore acquisition, it would be a minor move. Most likely to get some depth for Triple A because the depth is Doubrant/Francis/Copeland if a starter goes down.

 

[Swervin81]

Yanks bullpen ERA: 3.22

Jays bullpen ERA: 3.40

Problem is our WPA is horrible from the pen (29th). Meaning they pick the worst time to blow it.

 

[CalgaryLeaf*]

Long time Tigers fan here...Nice pickup by the Jays!..You are going to absolutely love David Price...He's a top 5 pitcher in all of baseball. Unfortunately, the Tigers can't afford to give him a 200M contract this offseason so they had to unload him.

What's the story on the prospects the Jays gave up?..Is Daniel Norris any good? What's his upside,a #1 or #2 pitcher?

 

[Longshot]

no not really

Jays bullpen: 3.40 ERA, 3.51 FIP, 3.41 xFIP

Yanks bullpen 3.22 ERA, 3.37 FIP, 3.36 xFIP

the timing of those runs has been bad though, causing a few 1 run losses, I'd say that's the biggest difference. Timing.

In essence, the Jays have really experienced some stupid luck this year.

And I guess the best way to address that is two bullpen arms (Hawkins and Sanchez), get an ace and add a superstar hitter who is also pretty good at SS.