Trades and UFA’s - Trade Deadline Edition

[ULF_55]

Tavares is unlikely to waive.

Here's a longshot for you though.

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I'm speculating here now, but is not Tavares' wife in health care in Ontario?
Maybe she isn't working, but if yes then licensed in Ontario.

 

[Rare Jewel]

I'll throw out an Parayko alternative; now, bear with me...

Phillipe Myers

 

[LeafParade]

People really need to give up with this ridiculous notion that guys are going to waive their NMC or NTC etc.

Stop living in Disneyland. It is such a ridiculous premise.

 

[Rare Jewel]

People really need to give up with this ridiculous notion that guys are going to waive their NMC or NTC etc.

Stop living in Disneyland. It is such a ridiculous premise.

It's not, though; whether management has the balls for it is another question. But if this team is out early again, or dare I say, misses the playoffs, why shouldn't it be on the table? Are their feelings going to be hurt?

 

[LeafParade]

It's not, though; whether management has the balls for it is another question. But if this team is out early again, or dare I say, misses the playoffs, why shouldn't it be on the table? Are their feelings going to be hurt?

Tavares has one year left on his deal. He isn't going to waive just because you want him to waive.
You can ask, it doesn't mean they will agree.

If I was in Tavares position, I would literally tell you to f off.

 

[Sypher04]

It's not, though; whether management has the balls for it is another question. But if this team is out early again, or dare I say, misses the playoffs, why shouldn't it be on the table? Are their feelings going to be hurt?

It very much is. There is nothing at all that we can do to force them to waive. We can do something very ill-advised, like pressure them, take away the C/A, take away games and minutes from them (at the detriment of the team on the ice I might add) and every star player league wide will take notice and not even consider ever signing with us again. Wouldn’t be shocking either to see players on the team request a trade as a result.

 

[-DeMo-]

It's not, though; whether management has the balls for it is another question. But if this team is out early again, or dare I say, misses the playoffs, why shouldn't it be on the table? Are their feelings going to be hurt?

personally don't see why it will even be on the leafs to get him to waive, if you want to move Tavares you discuss deals with teams and if you have a deal you would accept, it will then mostly be on the other team to convince him to be allowed to join the new team, same with Marner

 

[Rare Jewel]

Tavares has one year left on his deal. He isn't going to waive just because you want him to waive.
You can ask, it doesn't mean they will agree.

If I was in Tavares position, I would literally tell you to f off.

Ok, that's fair.

But you may be getting bought out.

 

[Menzinger]

Ok, that's fair.

But you may be getting bought out.

It doesn't really save the Leafs anything to do so. Saves the Leafs 600k next season and then gets hit with a 300ish k cap penalty the season after

 

[LeafParade]

Ok, that's fair.

But you may be getting bought out.

Well now you are making me laugh.
The entire thought process is ....well there is no thought process here.

 

[TheGroceryStick]

Ok, that's fair.

But you may be getting bought out.

Smart move. Doing that to a captain, and people wonder why most players steer clear of this town.

 

[MarMarSab3]

Ok, that's fair.

But you may be getting bought out.

And that to me has been the solution to this hard cap issue, if the league is steadfast on having a hard cap then a team should be permitted 1 buyout every off season that does not count against the cap including NMC

 

[Rare Jewel]

It doesn't really save the Leafs anything to do so. Saves the Leafs 600k next season and then gets hit with a 300ish k cap penalty the season after

Oh, I know.

But in the event that you feel a change of leadership or direction is necessary, you could do that if he's as obstinate as that poster implies.

 

[Menzinger]

Oh, I know.

But in the event that you feel a change of leadership or direction is necessary, you could do that.

I don't think the PR fallout would be worth it, not exactly a selling point to future ufas

 

[Rare Jewel]

I don't think the PR fallout would be worth it, not exactly a selling point to future ufas

The PR fallout of losing in the first round (again), which would be the trigger for this move, isn't going to be any better.

Well now you are making me laugh.
The entire thought process is ....well there is no thought process here.

How do you feel about asking Marner to waive his NMC?

 

[Gabriel426]

I don't think the PR fallout would be worth it, not exactly a selling point to future ufas

We always say that but thats really not the case at all. Winning will attract UFAs. Did it stopped the Leafs from signing UFAs, RFAs and own players when Dubas essentially forced traded Kadri. I know they asked Kadri to waive and he didn't but he still ended up getting traded.

 

[ACC1224]

Ok, that's fair.

But you may be getting bought out.

I didn’t think you could buy someone out with a NMC?

 

[Rare Jewel]

I didn’t think you could buy someone out with a NMC?

You can. It's the only way out without their permission.

 

[ACC1224]

I don't think the PR fallout would be worth it, not exactly a selling point to future ufas

The idiocy Fletcher brought with Sundin didn’t seem to have much effect

 

[MarMarSab3]

I didn’t think you could buy someone out with a NMC?

You can

 

[Buds17]

We always say that but thats really not the case at all. Winning will attract UFAs. Did it stopped the Leafs from signing UFAs, RFAs and own players when Dubas essentially forced traded Kadri. I know they asked Kadri to waive and he didn't but he still ended up getting traded.

While I generally agree that winning helps a great deal, Kadri did not have a full veto in his contract and that's why he was only able to nix the initial trade attempt to CGY and not the later trade to COL.

 

[Menzinger]

The idiocy Fletcher brought with Sundin didn’t seem to have much effect

How many competitive free agents did the team even sign though from Sundins last season to Tavares?

We seemed to spend the jfg-Nonis years getting snubbed

 

[Menzinger]

The PR fallout of losing in the first round (again), which would be the trigger for this move, isn't going to be any better.

But what's the point? It doesn't even save enough to add a league minimum contract

 

[LeafParade]

How do you feel about asking Marner to waive his NMC?

Like I said, you can ask. But you have Zero Leverage.

You keep posting like the Leafs have leverage and that is why your entire premise is nonsense.
The more you post, the more ridiculous the entire notion looks because you yourself are illustrating why it is a pipe dream.

But what's the point? It doesn't even save enough to add a league minimum contract

He clearly has not throught it through because the Leafs would not even save enough to sign a minimum league contract to replaces Tavares. But he keeps going with his fantasy land.

 

[Rare Jewel]

But what's the point? It doesn't even save enough to add a league minimum contract

Change.