Trades and UFA’s - Trade Deadline Edition

[Americanadian]

In regards to replacing Samsonov I suggested Driedger yesterday in a change of scenery move. Minnesota might entertain a Fleury move. Fleury has been just as bad as Samsonov this season. Both are pending UFA's on basically the same cap hit. Fleury might accept a deal out of Minnesota assuming he's retiring next season and not planning on retiring in Minnesota. He would provide a veteran presence for the Leafs that Samsonov does not. I would also trust him more than Samsonov to step in in the playoffs. I don't know if Minnesota would make this move - might have to be part of a bigger move like Samsonov+3rd for Fleury+4th.

 

[LeafSteel]

In regards to replacing Samsonov I suggested Driedger yesterday in a change of scenery move. Minnesota might entertain a Fleury move. Fleury has been just as bad as Samsonov this season. Both are pending UFA's on basically the same cap hit. Fleury might accept a deal out of Minnesota assuming he's retiring next season and not planning on retiring in Minnesota. He would provide a veteran presence for the Leafs that Samsonov does not. I would also trust him more than Samsonov to step in in the playoffs. I don't know if Minnesota would make this move - might have to be part of a bigger move like Samsonov+3rd for Fleury+4th.

So we want to get a guy who’s no better than the guy we want to get away from that we already have because the other guy is a “veteran “?

Add to it we need to part with assets to bring said not better veteran, who walks away/retires next season, leaving us still in need of at least a 1B goalie?

What am I not getting here? How does this help us?

 

[Rare Jewel]

He's openly talked about not wanting to play here.

Is that what screaming in the goalie's face conveyed?

 

[Jmo89]

Reaves injury appears to be less serious than initially believed.

Just read that on TSN.

 

[andora]

Just read that on TSN.

Surprised reaves didnt tweet it himself

 

[rumman]

So we want to get a guy who’s no better than the guy we want to get away from that we already have because the other guy is a “veteran “?

Add to it we need to part with assets to bring said not better veteran, who walks away/retires next season, leaving us still in need of at least a 1B goalie?

What am I not getting here? How does this help us?

if all things are equal I'd trade for Fleury, might be the change both guys need, but it won't happen imo..........

 

[Machinae]

Someone like Sam Lafferty on Vancouver would be so good right now

 

[OVO16]

Someone like Sam Lafferty on Vancouver would be so good right now

Was never a fan of moving Lafferty. Would've kept him over both Reaves and Kampf

Honestly signing Kampf was baffling. I dont care how good he is "defensively"...(he's pretty overrated on that part)....he doesn't bring anything else.

I want my 4th line center to be more robust, physical, fast and can chip in with some slight offense here and there

 

[Knies iT]

Was never a fan of moving Lafferty. Would've kept him over both Reaves and Kampf

Honestly signing Kampf was baffling. I dont care how good he is "defensively"...(he's pretty overrated on that part)....he doesn't bring anything else.

I want my 4th line center to be more robust, physical, fast and can chip in with some slight offense here and there

Gregor - Acciari - Lafferty.

Cheaper than what we have now. Bungled it.

 

[OVO16]

I mentioned David Savard as a target a few pages back, and Kypreos mentioned him as a target yesterday as well.

Would he make sense retained? I think he's a perfect playoff type defenseman we need on the backend

 

[Kurtz]

Antti Raanta just hit waivers...

 

[Americanadian]

So we want to get a guy who’s no better than the guy we want to get away from that we already have because the other guy is a “veteran “?

Add to it we need to part with assets to bring said not better veteran, who walks away/retires next season, leaving us still in need of at least a 1B goalie?

What am I not getting here? How does this help us?

Is Samsonov going to be here next year? At this point it seems unlikely - thus making the probable Fleury retirement irrelevant. Why do the Leafs do this? They want to win. Fleury has a better track record. Fleury has playoff experience. If for some reason the Leafs aren't playing Woll in the playoffs I'd rather Fleury over Samsonov 10/10 times. If Woll is struggling I'd rather him have Fleury helping him get over with his wealth of experience it than Samsonov who most likely wants Woll to struggle so he can re-gain the net. That is personal opinion though. As far as assets go - I suggested downgrading a 3rd round pick to a 4th. If that is too much for you to stomach I apologize.

 

[Namikaze Minato]

Antti Raanta just hit waivers...

He has worse numbers than Sammy does....

Hell, he has worse numbers than Campbell does!

 

[Gilmour1996]

So we want to get a guy who’s no better than the guy we want to get away from that we already have because the other guy is a “veteran “?

Add to it we need to part with assets to bring said not better veteran, who walks away/retires next season, leaving us still in need of at least a 1B goalie?

What am I not getting here? How does this help us?

An experienced veteran would be better at grooming Woll than Sammy would. I wouldn't give up any assets though, aside from Sammy.

 

[Martin Skoula]

Gregor - Acciari - Lafferty.

Cheaper than what we have now. Bungled it.

Funny enough it would be better physically, offensively, and defensively despite not overpaying for a “defensive specialist” and the “toughest” scrub in the league. Guarantee they’d have more fights too.

 

[Rare Jewel]

Someone like Sam Lafferty on Vancouver would be so good right now

Who?

 

[Buds17]

Antti Raanta just hit waivers...

Might be interesting to see if a team values the previous history and current contract more than the overall situation thus far this season. Don't know if I'd want said team to be Toronto though.

 

[The Management]

Raanta's best days are unfortunately behind him. Thirty-four, .854 this season behind a blueline with guys like Slavin and Pesce.

 

[LeafSteel]

Is Samsonov going to be here next year? At this point it seems unlikely - thus making the probable Fleury retirement irrelevant. Why do the Leafs do this? They want to win. Fleury has a better track record. Fleury has playoff experience. If for some reason the Leafs aren't playing Woll in the playoffs I'd rather Fleury over Samsonov 10/10 times. If Woll is struggling I'd rather him have Fleury helping him get over with his wealth of experience it than Samsonov who most likely wants Woll to struggle so he can re-gain the net. That is personal opinion though. As far as assets go - I suggested downgrading a 3rd round pick to a 4th. If that is too much for you to stomach I apologize.

No need, I enjoy your opinions. I don’t always agree but you bring interesting points and you never sound like a broken record.

I will just say that I think we are better served using 3rd or 4th rounders for pieces we will carry forward.

Agree that unless Samsonov turns it around big time and quick he’s gone, and even then we may have our 1A in Woll. If that’s the case I’d be curious to see what Hildeby can do between now and the TDL, seeing where samsonov’s game, and what goalie options are available then.

Cheers my friend.

 

[ULF_55]

No need, I enjoy your opinions. I don’t always agree but you bring interesting points and you never sound like a broken record.

I will just say that I think we are better served using 3rd or 4th rounders for pieces we will carry forward.

Agree that unless Samsonov turns it around big time and quick he’s gone, and even then we may have our 1A in Woll. If that’s the case I’d be curious to see what Hildeby can do between now and the TDL, seeing where samsonov’s game, and what goalie options are available then.

Cheers my friend.

Hildeby probably would let in 3.5 goals a game.

 

[Americanadian]

No need, I enjoy your opinions. I don’t always agree but you bring interesting points and you never sound like a broken record.

I will just say that I think we are better served using 3rd or 4th rounders for pieces we will carry forward.

Agree that unless Samsonov turns it around big time and quick he’s gone, and even then we may have our 1A in Woll. If that’s the case I’d be curious to see what Hildeby can do between now and the TDL, seeing where samsonov’s game, and what goalie options are available then.

Cheers my friend.

Cheers!

 

[SprDaVE]

Antti Raanta just hit waivers...

Somehow worst than Samsonov. I would not want to help Carolina out in any way either.

I think the Canes will trade for Vejmelka or Gibson soon.

 

[Legion34]

What are we expecting guys like

Pesce
Tanev
Skej
Demelo

Go for?
If Stl wants to dump salary I would look at Faulk/parayko

But they seem expensive at 6.5 million each.

I would rather try for 2 of Pesce/demelo/tanev at 4-5 million.

Reilly. Tanev
Xxxx. Demelo
McCabe Lilly
But would need a puck mover
Faulk has 50pts and pp2.

I wonder if you try to get a skej/pesce pair?

 

[Americanadian]

What are we expecting guys like

Pesce
Tanev
Skej
Demelo

Go for?
If Stl wants to dump salary I would look at Faulk/parayko

But they seem expensive at 6.5 million each.

I would rather try for 2 of Pesce/demelo/tanev at 4-5 million.

Demelo will be the best value/dollar. I don't think Tanev will get overpaid but any term is risky given his age and injury history. Pesce will most likely be overpaid. I would imagine Demelo can find a 4x4 deal. He's been awesome since he arrived in Winnipeg.

 

[Legion34]

Demelo will be the best value/dollar. I don't think Tanev will get overpaid but any term is risky given his age and injury history. Pesce will most likely be overpaid. I would imagine Demelo can find a 4x4 deal. He's been awesome since he arrived in Winnipeg.

Ya I want him I think the most out of all of them